While I have sympathy for the Df’d person, it is clear that her recorded conversation is misrepresented by the narrator. The most that did happened was the lack of communication both parties had. Clarity is vital to understanding. Where the narrator erred was in the perception that the Df’d person still had in wanting to return which was clearly not the case. It is clear her intention of not returning was made with her last correspondence. Unfortunately the recorded conversation was made to confirm her disdain and unwillingness to return by her emotional state which lead others simply to conclude of her insincerity as a whole outcome to return. Showing her love for people was a symbolic gesture in her behalf nothing more while venting that she made clear it was inconsequential at that point. Miscommunication was obviously rampant here, as that’s a shame.
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Another heart breaking recording of how witnesses are really treated on JWstruggle
by Crazyguy inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=46ctpddnaom
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Hi everyone, this is my first post.
by John Aquila inhey everyone, this is my first post.
i was contacted by the witnesses in1965, baptized in that same year at age 15. i was appointed an elder in 1975 and served as an elder for 20 years..
it hasnt been long since i learn ttatt and when i totally woke up.
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Now that you have 32 posts how does it feel? The core argument you just referenced was learning this hypothetical TTATT. It always amazes me how people can write this stuff with a strait mind. It reminds me of Cyrano de Bergerac instead of George Washington.
Have you started to build your alter egos as others do here? Multiple accounts will empower you to fit right in; you know give the illusion of millions when in reality, its only thousands of ex-witnesses that by the most part were kicked out of this religion and have their active witness sympathizing friends think by cloaking themselves from man holds them in some special category of God’s acceptance (insiders). That’s a very good illusion. Give your own Q&A the more fake responses the sooner lurkers will learn your TTATT theory and be enchanted by the Siren’s song. Luke 11:14-15
Be in harmony with 1 John 2:15-16 and Context: Message to the Church in Laodicea (NIV) Revelation 3:14-22
Keep up the good work.
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My Real Calling / Mission In Life Is Here on J-W.com
by smiddy insometime during or after my conversion to jehovah witnesses 55 years ago , i felt it was my calling , duty , mission , to preach the word , and witness to as many people as i could about the watchtower`s interpretation of the bible that i believed was the truth.. and may i presume i am not alone there .i feel many if not all would have had similar thoughts.. without being presumptuous i think i have found my real calling in life , in doing what little i can to add my 2 cents worth in exposing this religion for what a fraud it actually is ,especially to the newbies , because most of us here have already found ttatt .. so witnessing to the truth about jehovah`s witnesses on this board , gives me much more pleasure than i ever had witnessing for the watchtower organization.
and this site / board has enabled me to do that , thank you simon ,ang, and company.. smiddy.
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By “evolution,” we mean “macroevolution”—apes turning into humans, for example.
by FadingTruth inaugust 2015 awake .
quote in title taken from article footnote.. anyone have information on who gene hwang and yan-der hsuuw in the article are?.
why do they repeatedly state that apes turned to humans when that's not what evolutionists teach at all?.
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The human theory of Evolution. I often ask myself. Do inexperienced idealists really understand the true structure of Evolution? My answer would be NO. The facts that inexperienced evolutionist find a need to attack and belittle people that prove their lack of knowledge, becomes a paramount response of only focusing in one set standard without having to rely on other theories within the structure as a whole that make their contradictory responses mundane.
Philosophy is then needed to understand all facets of evolution.
Definitions of Evolutionary Terms
Adaptation:
The adjustment or changes in behavior, physiology, and structure of an organism to become more suited to an environment. According to Charles Darwin's theory of evolution by natural selection, organisms that possess heritable traits that enable them to better adapt to their environment compared with other members of their species will be more likely to survive, reproduce, and pass more of their genes on to the next generation.Chromosome:
A double stranded DNA molecule that contains a series of specific genes along its length. In most sexually reproducing organisms, chromosomes occur in pairs, with one member of the pair being inherited from each parent.DNA:
Deoxyribonucleic acid. A large biological molecule composed of subunits known as nucleotides strung together in long chains. The sequences of these nucleotides contain the information that cells need in order to grow, to divide into daughter cells, and to manufacture new proteins. Changes in DNA result in mutations, which may be beneficial, neutral, or deleterious to the organism. If these changes occur to DNA in sperm or egg cells, they could be passed onto the next generation.Evolution:
Evolution consists of changes in the heritable traits of a population of organisms as successive generations replace one another. It is populations of organisms that evolve, not individual organisms.Fact:
In science, a "fact" typically refers to an observation, measurement, or other form of evidence that can be expected to occur the same way under similar circumstances. However, scientists also use the term "fact" to refer to a scientific explanation that has been tested and confirmed so many times that there is no longer a compelling reason to keep testing it or looking for additional examples.Fossil:
A remnant or trace of an organism of a past geologic age, such as a skeleton or leaf imprint, embedded, and preserved in the Earth's crust, usually in stratified rock.Hypothesis:
A tentative explanation for an observation, phenomenon, or scientific problem that can be tested by further investigation. Scientific hypotheses must be posed in a form that allows them to be rejected.Genomics:
A recent branch of genetics that studies organisms in terms of their complete genetic material, including genes and their functions.Macroevolution:
Large-scale evolution occurring over geologic time that results in the formation of new species and broader taxonomic groups.Microevolution:
Changes in the traits of a group of organisms within a species that do not result in a new species.Mimicry:
In biology, mimicry is the superficial resemblance of one species of organism to another species or to a natural object in its surroundings. Some kinds of mimicry result in a selective advantage for concealment and protection from predators. Another type of mimicry enables protection to the mimic through its resemblance to another species that is toxic or in some other way dangerous.Mutation:
A change in the sequence of one or more nucleotides in DNA. Such changes can alter the structure of proteins or the regulation of protein production. In some cases mutations result in the organism possessing these altered traits to have a greater or lesser chance of surviving and reproducing in a given environment than other members of its species.Natural selection:
Differential survival and reproduction of organisms as a consequence of the characteristics of the environment.Paleontologist:
A scientist who studies fossils to learn about ancient organisms.Protein:
A large molecule consisting of a chain of smaller molecules called amino acids. The sequence of amino acids and the molecule's three-dimensional structure are coded by the instructions in DNA and determine a protein's specific function in cells or organisms.Population:
A group of organisms of the same species that are in close enough proximity to allow them to interbreed.RNA:
Ribonucleic acid. A molecule related to DNA that consists of nucleotide subunits strung together in chains. RNA serves a number of cellular functions, including providing a template for the synthesis of proteins and catalyzing certain biochemical reactions. The structure of RNA is determined by the sequence of nucleotides on DNA.Science:
The use of evidence to construct testable explanations and predictions of natural phenomena, as well as the knowledge generated through this process.Sedimentary:
Rocks formed of particles deposited by water, wind, or ice.Selective breeding:
The intentional breeding of organisms with desirable traits in an attempt to produce offspring with enhanced characteristics or traits that humans consider desirable. This process is also known as "artifical selection" (compare with "natural selection").Speciation:
The evolutionary processes through which new species arise from existing species.Species:
In sexually reproducing organisms, species consist of individuals that can interbreed with each other.Survival of the fittest:
A term that refers to the survival of only those organisms best able (fittest) to obtain and utilize resources, resulting in the evolution of organisms that are best adapted to the environment. Darwin used metaphorically to describe "natural selection." The phrase was invented by the 19th century philosopher Herbert Spencer It has been misapplied through history to explain and justify social and economic inequities in human populations ("social Darwinism") or as a method for improving the human condition through selective breeding (eugenics). Survival alone is insufficient for evolution - it's reproduction - passing on of genes that really counts. Most modern biologists no longer use this term when describing or discussing natural selection.Theory:
A plausible or scientifically acceptable, well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world; an organized system of accepted knowledge that applies in a variety of circumstances to explain a specific set of phenomena and predict the characteristics of as yet unobserved phenomena.Trait:
A physical or behavioral characteristic of an organism.http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Scientific+theory+of+evolution
http://www.livescience.com/474-controversy-evolution-works.html
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By “evolution,” we mean “macroevolution”—apes turning into humans, for example.
by FadingTruth inaugust 2015 awake .
quote in title taken from article footnote.. anyone have information on who gene hwang and yan-der hsuuw in the article are?.
why do they repeatedly state that apes turned to humans when that's not what evolutionists teach at all?.
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By “evolution,” we mean “macroevolution”—apes turning into humans, for example.
by FadingTruth inaugust 2015 awake .
quote in title taken from article footnote.. anyone have information on who gene hwang and yan-der hsuuw in the article are?.
why do they repeatedly state that apes turned to humans when that's not what evolutionists teach at all?.
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DD Regardless of the origin of life, let me repeat, regardless of the ORIGIN OF LIFE, animals evolve. To say anything less is dishonest and ignorant. For "Christ's brothers" to deliberately misquote authors or take quotes out of context in order to make "evolution" a dirty word is the height of dishonesty.
marmot: SimonSays, your skin is thinner than a salamander's, DataDog never called you ignorant.
...although if the shoe fits.
Yes I’m aware of DD metaphor. Perhaps you will need a shoe horn and a mirror to give you the ability to see the reflection correctly while sizing up that shoe. Whereas the assertion of Christian brothers only applies to people that have not become complacent in their beliefs which reflects worlds apart from true understanding by which I associate with.
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By “evolution,” we mean “macroevolution”—apes turning into humans, for example.
by FadingTruth inaugust 2015 awake .
quote in title taken from article footnote.. anyone have information on who gene hwang and yan-der hsuuw in the article are?.
why do they repeatedly state that apes turned to humans when that's not what evolutionists teach at all?.
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DD> No, it's not hypothetical. I suggest you do some research on the Coywolf, an animal that you can observe right now.
I would suggest before you open you big mouth and call people ignorant you read the threads correctly as no one is suggesting that premise.
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By “evolution,” we mean “macroevolution”—apes turning into humans, for example.
by FadingTruth inaugust 2015 awake .
quote in title taken from article footnote.. anyone have information on who gene hwang and yan-der hsuuw in the article are?.
why do they repeatedly state that apes turned to humans when that's not what evolutionists teach at all?.
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While your definition of evolution has many variables, the distinctions therefore continue as hypothetical, even if certain aspects have
proven theories.
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By “evolution,” we mean “macroevolution”—apes turning into humans, for example.
by FadingTruth inaugust 2015 awake .
quote in title taken from article footnote.. anyone have information on who gene hwang and yan-der hsuuw in the article are?.
why do they repeatedly state that apes turned to humans when that's not what evolutionists teach at all?.
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Evolution also has absolutely NOTHING to do with explaining the "origin of life." It explains speciation. And it has the evidence and data to back it up. Which is why it is a THEORY and not a hypothesis.
The concept of a creator has absolutely no basis in fact or evidence whatsoever.
That would be the point from an evolution stand point of view, EVOLUTION HAS NOTHING TO DO with CREATION.
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By “evolution,” we mean “macroevolution”—apes turning into humans, for example.
by FadingTruth inaugust 2015 awake .
quote in title taken from article footnote.. anyone have information on who gene hwang and yan-der hsuuw in the article are?.
why do they repeatedly state that apes turned to humans when that's not what evolutionists teach at all?.
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SimonSays
It is only mainstream writers to argue how evolution should be perceived by creationist. Theology in itself aligns to the core value of what a Heavenly God is and attributes there in.
Evolutionist such a Darwin made this compelling argument to satisfy the science community how such differences would apply to the onset forecast within the logic of creationism.
Microevolution happens on a small scale (within a single population), while macroevolution happens on a scale that transcends the boundaries of a single species. Despite their differences, evolution at both of these levels relies on the same, established mechanisms of evolutionary change: mutation.
There are two possible sources of the genetic variability that must be introduced into a population for change to take place: mutation and genetic recombination. Mutations are random nucleotide alterations such as copying errors or changes induced by external mutagens. In contrast, genetic recombination is performed by the cell during the preparation of gametes (sperm, egg, pollen) which are used for sexual reproduction.
The genomic differences between any two siblings are tremendous, and with rare exception all of those genetic distinctions were specifically created recombination. Both recombination and mutations can contribute to the evolution of an organism, but genetic recombination is the primary source of the genetic distinctions between individuals in a population, and must therefore be the principal driving force behind evolution
While one holds upon expansion, Creation descends from inception, i.e. point of origin. (LIFE) however complex these theories are, both cannot find an actual point of origin of life.
For this purpose they both inherit the same standards by canceling each other theories as speculation. While one can be answered physically under man made proven hypothesizes the other can be proven by simple physical archeology.
The inference that evolutionist writers conspire to suggest that a millennial amount of generational people somehow conspired to develop or orchestrated the ultimate lie of transition, would be in itself ludicrous.