Posts by SimonSays

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The Org is terrified of apostates

by SecretSlaveClass in

i knew apostasy was a serious concern for the org, but until i watched this video, i had no idea how afraid they actually were.

all this guy wants is to do is not turn in his fs hours and immediately they (elders) set about drilling him about who are what influenced his decision, as if he was incapable of making his own (which as the elders confirm, in the org is highly discouraged).

they are convinced he has been communicating with apostates or visiting apostate web sites.

SimonSays

Outlaw: What People?.....I don`t belong to any organized group.....You Do..

SOCIAL GROUP: In sociology, a group is usually defined as a number of people who identify and interact with one another. This is a very broad definition, as it includes groups of all sizes, from dyads to whole societies.

My bad, I guess you are that ignorant, since you can’t understand the daily encounter you have in this site. I guess this is why you people can’t tell what the truth is another more.

OUTLAW:I never asked that Question..

Watchtower and its JW Cult Members are "Notorious" for Misleading People.

That`s what the Article "You Quoted" was about..

You Have Just Proved The Articles Point.......Good Job!!..

My point was if the WTS doesn’t fear the CC, it would definitely not fear Apostates promoting false ideals through manipulation tactics just like the Catholic Church.

OUTLAW:Typical "Lazy Ass" JW,caught in his own Deceitful Bullshit..

Looking for a "Way Out" of the Mess he`s Posted..

I’m disappointed, you couldn’t come up with a better anecdote of a child’s saying “I know you are but what am I”. I wonder who the real coward is. Dust yourself off and don’t worry, you’ll never lose your friends here. There will always be cult minded misleading people to support your deceit. I hope i gave everyone the opportunity to vent to get rid of their anxiety. You should feel better now, carry on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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The Org is terrified of apostates

by SecretSlaveClass in

i knew apostasy was a serious concern for the org, but until i watched this video, i had no idea how afraid they actually were.

all this guy wants is to do is not turn in his fs hours and immediately they (elders) set about drilling him about who are what influenced his decision, as if he was incapable of making his own (which as the elders confirm, in the org is highly discouraged).

they are convinced he has been communicating with apostates or visiting apostate web sites.

SimonSays

SimonSays should have Printed more of the Article....But..
That`s what Watchtower and Watchtower "JW Cult" Members do..
Use partial Quotes..
So the Original Quote Is misrepresented,in favour of the WatchTower and It`s JW Cult Members..OUTLAW

OUTLAW: Sorry to burst your bubble, but isn’t that what YOU PEOPLE being doing for 15 years? That was the point, however your ignorant and deceptive ways of your trashy cartoons makes that distinction when your question is, does the WTS fear apostates because of their continued MANIPULATION of FACTS. Since you have the article, PRINT OUT THE REST, so people can point at you in order for people to know that the BIGGEST LIARS are Born in JW turned BLASPHEMERS.

By the way, don’t tell you’re that ignorant not to make a distinction when it comes to OPINIONS. Stick to cartoons there funnier.

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The Org is terrified of apostates

by SecretSlaveClass in

i knew apostasy was a serious concern for the org, but until i watched this video, i had no idea how afraid they actually were.

all this guy wants is to do is not turn in his fs hours and immediately they (elders) set about drilling him about who are what influenced his decision, as if he was incapable of making his own (which as the elders confirm, in the org is highly discouraged).

they are convinced he has been communicating with apostates or visiting apostate web sites.

SimonSays

Looks like 2004 on my phone. Do you have a link to that? Then u can actually see where it's from. HeyThere

Here's the link for you verification: http://www.pewforum.org/2015/05/12/americas-changing-religious-landscape/

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The Org is terrified of apostates

by SecretSlaveClass in

i knew apostasy was a serious concern for the org, but until i watched this video, i had no idea how afraid they actually were.

all this guy wants is to do is not turn in his fs hours and immediately they (elders) set about drilling him about who are what influenced his decision, as if he was incapable of making his own (which as the elders confirm, in the org is highly discouraged).

they are convinced he has been communicating with apostates or visiting apostate web sites.

SimonSays

I know that you know the significance of what I said. Your quote from Pope Francis has an uncanny resemblance to what I heard in the 1970s.Village Idiot

Well I wouldn’t know what to tell you about the Popes busy schedule, and what his intents are with his comments. I know that in 2013 the Conference of Catholic Bishops urged the Pope to allow married Bishops in South America the full rights of Bishop since there was a big shortage, and I believe that was resolved in late 2014. So when he started talking about the witnesses, I don’t know if it was a scheduled event or an urgent meeting.

Pray Tell: has tracked the story of Bishop Erwin Kräutler’s meeting with Pope Francis about the severe priesthood shortage and mandatory celibacy in Brazil, and Francis’ suggestion that the bishops of Brazil set up commission to make suggestions to Rome for a solution. This has now happened.

Either way, all religion will be attacked. You know very well. So who has what percent is meaningless. it's about good verses evil. Will see who was right at the end. As you said in a different thread. Something to look forward to in my death bed, right!

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The Org is terrified of apostates

by SecretSlaveClass in

i knew apostasy was a serious concern for the org, but until i watched this video, i had no idea how afraid they actually were.

all this guy wants is to do is not turn in his fs hours and immediately they (elders) set about drilling him about who are what influenced his decision, as if he was incapable of making his own (which as the elders confirm, in the org is highly discouraged).

they are convinced he has been communicating with apostates or visiting apostate web sites.

SimonSays

SimonSays, I remember an almost identical quote on Catholics converting to JWs as far back as 40 years ago. It's an old quote that's been refurbished. In any case 10,000 is a trivial number if you bother to think about it. (Hint: It's .001% of all Catholics) village idiot

Village idiot: Well I guess the Catholics continue with the same ideology, however, since the Pontiff Francis is making the pitch, I guess you would need to email him to let him know that we live in the 21 century.

Village idiot: You are correct on the rise of atheist and Gnostic's. But I believe that is the rivalry between good and bad. One day we’ll have to bow down to anti Christ. But it will be for a short time. Just bear in mind, while atheist think they have an ally with the anti Christ hell remove disloyal people first. An example would Kim Jung Un. He illuminates his most loyal members, why?

Wait....am I missing something? Simon your numbers are from nearly 10 years ago (2007) or am I not seeing that right? That's not current at all....and jw numbers are pretty stagnant...something just doesn't add up here. HeyThere

Heyther: You are correct when you mentioned your missing something. Stats from right to left, 2007-2014-change.

On the change, you are correct. Numbers shows no difference for JW’s while the Catholic church dropped 3.1. percent in 7 years.That’s the call for alarm according to them.

The Stats are good Outlaw

okay then.

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The Org is terrified of apostates

by SecretSlaveClass in

i knew apostasy was a serious concern for the org, but until i watched this video, i had no idea how afraid they actually were.

all this guy wants is to do is not turn in his fs hours and immediately they (elders) set about drilling him about who are what influenced his decision, as if he was incapable of making his own (which as the elders confirm, in the org is highly discouraged).

they are convinced he has been communicating with apostates or visiting apostate web sites.

SimonSays

SimonSays, you are cutting and repasting the same thing. Don't you have something else to say other than that tired (decades) old quote? village idiot

Village idiot, oh! You mean the mistake you made about what the Catholics were talking about a couple of months ago, and the stats I used for illustration. No Sorry, I just have current event info. Maybe you can press forward on your vcr to be enlighten.

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The Org is terrified of apostates

by SecretSlaveClass in

i knew apostasy was a serious concern for the org, but until i watched this video, i had no idea how afraid they actually were.

all this guy wants is to do is not turn in his fs hours and immediately they (elders) set about drilling him about who are what influenced his decision, as if he was incapable of making his own (which as the elders confirm, in the org is highly discouraged).

they are convinced he has been communicating with apostates or visiting apostate web sites.

SimonSays

Outlaw, don’t just put stats you think has a capable argument. Stick to your cartoon quackery, and update your stats.

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Did Geoffrey Jackson Commit Perjury, or Just "Spiritual Warfare"?

by The Searcher in

mr. jackson was pressured by angus stewart to answer if the org condoned corporal punishment, to which he openly stated that the org does not condone corporal punishment for j.w.

children.

this "fact" has never been revealed in the org's literature, in fact, this article which was published under geoffrey jackson's supervision, by definition demonstrates the org's approval of corporal punishment for j.w.

SimonSays

SS - ..."99.9% of times JW children get scolded"
Have you personally investigated 100% of JW households to make this claim? sparrowdown

Have you personally investigated 100% of JW households to prove they didn't?

postulating, more than you'll ever know!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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The Org is terrified of apostates

by SecretSlaveClass in

i knew apostasy was a serious concern for the org, but until i watched this video, i had no idea how afraid they actually were.

all this guy wants is to do is not turn in his fs hours and immediately they (elders) set about drilling him about who are what influenced his decision, as if he was incapable of making his own (which as the elders confirm, in the org is highly discouraged).

they are convinced he has been communicating with apostates or visiting apostate web sites.

SimonSays

You don't have the slightest understanding of either the Catholic Church nor of "Apostates". And thank you for the upper case "A". village idiot

Village idiot: you stand true to your avatar. It seem you understand even less, but keep up the good work, from one A to bigger A, ”QUOTE DIRECTLY FROM THE CATHOLIC CHURCH”

FROM POPE FRANCIS IN PORTUGAL

Moving - Pascom Porto Feliz: Catholic Conference discusses increasing Witnesses ...

Which brings so many people to become Jehovah's Witnesses? This was the question asked by some clerics, as shown by the following quotations. For example, in Bologna, Italy, the ecclesiastical authorities, with the approval of the pope, they held a conference to discuss ways to combat the success of Jehovah's Witnesses.

The Catholic Church raised a " cry of alarm “, the newspaper La Republica, because every year ten thousand Catholics become Jehovah's Witnesses. The Jesuit Giuseppe De Rosa said that " the religious point of view the most dangerous are Jehovah's Witnesses. They come fully trained and always have the Bible in hand. "

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Did Geoffrey Jackson Commit Perjury, or Just "Spiritual Warfare"?

by The Searcher in

mr. jackson was pressured by angus stewart to answer if the org condoned corporal punishment, to which he openly stated that the org does not condone corporal punishment for j.w.

children.

this "fact" has never been revealed in the org's literature, in fact, this article which was published under geoffrey jackson's supervision, by definition demonstrates the org's approval of corporal punishment for j.w.

SimonSays

Searcher: If you’re going to sabotage by attempting to misrepresent FACTS, I suggest you revise and consent your belligerence. TEACHING PROPER VALUES. When will you people learn. Get a life dude.

On Teaching Proper Values:

In a 1969 New York Times Magazine article, Dr. Bruno Bettelheim stressed that a child has the "right to form his own inner opinions, influenced not by [his parents'] authoritative [preaching], but only by his own direct experience with life." Almost 30 years later, though, Dr. Robert Coles, author of The Moral Intelligence of Children (1997), acknowledged: "Children very much need a sense of purpose and direction in life, a set of values" approved by their parents and other adults.

Proverbs 22:6 urges parents: "Train up a boy according to the way for him; even when he grows old he will not turn aside from it." The Hebrew word translated "train" also means "initiate" and here indicates the initiating of the first instruction of the infant. Parents are thus encouraged to start teaching their children proper values from infancy on. (2 Timothy 3:14, 15) What they learn during these formative years is likely to remain with them.

On Discipline:

Dr. James Dobson wrote in The Strong-Willed Child (1978): "Corporal punishment in the hands of a loving parent is a teaching tool by which harmful behavior is inhibited." On the other hand, in an article adapted from the seventh edition of the popular book Baby and Child Care (1998), Dr. Benjamin Spock said: "Spanking teaches children that the larger, stronger person has the power to get his way, whether or not he is in the right." OUTSIDE SOURCE, NOT THE WTS

With regard to discipline, the Bible states: "The rod and reproof are what give wisdom." (Proverbs 29:15) However, not all children need physical punishment. Proverbs 17:10 tells us: "A rebuke works deeper in one having understanding than striking a stupid one a hundred times." 99.9% of times JW Children get scolded.