Posts by SimonSays

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Some Bethelites are Jackasses

by Old Goat in

rachael de vienne is one of the authors of separate identity, a history of the watch tower's earliest years.

she's received low grade harassment from the watchtower for years.

she posted about it on her personal blog.

Another promoter of Penton. Do you people get paid to promote bloggers? If not you should. Narcissism at its highest. Nelson H. Barbour the forgotten prophet. This bell has been ringing since the 30’s and apparently hasn’t stopped. Not even Wikipedia makes that claim. You people really need to speak with modern day bible students instead of spreading foolish mistaken chronology. Lorenzo is one of them, you know him as “Lars”

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Pedophilia a Worldwide Issue

by SimonSays in

the founder of a children's protection organization laments that pedophilia only makes the news when it is linked to priests, which misses the point that it is a worldwide problem.

rome italy.

jozef wesoowski: defendant in vaticans 1st child abuse trial dies.

SimonSays

The founder of a children's protection organization laments that pedophilia only makes the news when it is linked to priests, which misses the point that it is a worldwide problem. ROME ITALY

Józef Wesołowski: Defendant in Vatican’s 1st Child Abuse Trial Dies

Wesołowski was found dead at his Vatican residence Friday morning, the Holy See confirmed. He was to be the first official tried by the Catholic Church for allegedly sexually abusing children.

Wesolowski was charged with paying for sex with and abusing children in the Dominican Republican between 2008 and 2013. He was also charged with possession of child pornography, dating from as recently as his return to Rome in 2013.

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/08/vatican-ambassador-wesolowski-dies-child-abuse-trial-150828093245160.html

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/vatican-paedophilia-trial-defrocked-archbishop-jozef-wesolowski-dies-under-house-arrest-1517443

Was his death natural as alleged? Or foul play.

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JW Threatened me with Violence Today :)

by cofty in

i popped into the supermarket for a few things after work today and found myself walking up an aisle alongside a couple who used to be in my tuesday group.

i see them reasonably often and always say hello much to their obvious annoyance.

i noticed that ian was sporting a shaggy beard.

SimonSays

So let me understand this. An EXJW got in the face of another EXJW because you feel you have something in common but comes to find out that lan is more hostile than you, and then you come to this site to complain that an JW that is NOT an active JW possibly DFd himself from your own words that probably doesn’t even know you’re a disfellowshipped elder yourself and might have possible treated you the same way EXJW treat active witnesses seems very evolutionary, good to know.

Maybe you should have started the conversation with hey bud, from one DF to another, how you’re doing. Isn’t it great to be free from that cult, right? Just maybe you would have gotten a better reaction.

Can your intro be somewhat deceptive?

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Jehovah's people are the happiest people on earth!

by Coded Logic in

so this afternoon my roommate and i decided to go grab some dinner from the local chipotle and, as we live only a short distance from the franchise, we decided it was a good idea to walk.

little did i know that the j-dubs district convention here in sacramento was just getting out (the auditorium is literally smack in the middle of downtown and its attendees have to park in garages scattered a couple blocks away in every direction) so men in cheap suits and women in unflattering dress' were walking all over the place as though someone had antagonized their ungodly ant hill.

and, for sacramento, this of course is the complete opposite of the normative - that is to say, our streets are usually filled with well dressed, immaculately groomed, 'i know exactly where i'm going' government officials that monopolize the state capitol m-f. .

SimonSays

Also, by a stroke of luck, I happened to be wearing my shirt with a quote from Christopher Hitchens, "That which can be asserted without evidence - can be dismissed without evidence."

What does this ETHICS question comprise? it makes one ponder. Most people would view the question in various ways. The knowledge issues that come up are – science, history, human science, religion, belief, truth and faith. The impression sought after by Hitchens. This quote brings about various knowledge issues and in some cases you agree and some cases you cannot. Would this philosophy cause many to rethink, maybe, but to those with heavenly knowledge, most likely not? It would mean happiest are those who follow God’s instructions. Psalm 119:1-17 / 1 John 5:2-4 / 3 John 1:3-4

I hope some of them realize that not all "worldly people" are bad people. And that happiness is not unique to - if not altogether uncommon - among Jehovah's Witnesses.

They do, and they also do acts of kindness to others. However, the trademark of EXJWs is to the contrary and negative, that’s the only thing you’ll read here. This site should be called, ALL EXJW DISCUSSION FORUM since the present one is misleading in itself.

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The Org is terrified of apostates

by SecretSlaveClass in

i knew apostasy was a serious concern for the org, but until i watched this video, i had no idea how afraid they actually were.

all this guy wants is to do is not turn in his fs hours and immediately they (elders) set about drilling him about who are what influenced his decision, as if he was incapable of making his own (which as the elders confirm, in the org is highly discouraged).

they are convinced he has been communicating with apostates or visiting apostate web sites.

SimonSays

you People..

?????????????????..

There is no "Us" when I post.....Just Me..

Thank you for clarifying this point. I guess every time you POST a comment and get a response from your comment by some else, it’s only you. I guess you’ve been making this argument by yourself. It’s okay outlaw is winning to simonsays. Loony bin. Do you understand the word pathetic, since social groups doesn’t mean being in the same place?

You Claimed I asked a Question, I didn’t claim you had, my response was in lieu of your cowardice not to include the rest of the article you chose to illustrate your lies and now you’re just babbling it, by attempting to shift the blame to me like any opposer usually does. since your one of the oldest posters and you don’t want your reputation tarnished. I understand your mental state.

A perfect EXAMPLE is Village idiot to do the same manipulation tactics: "There will always be cult minded misleading people to support your deceit." Get a quote, take it out of context and there you have it, misleading.

If I would have written: There will always be cult minded misleading people HERE to support your deceit, it would have been more difficult to manipulate.

OUTLAW, stick to cartoons as mentioned. Let the poster have his 15 minutes of fame, and move on, get over yourself. Everybody still thinks you're the best and greatest, however you’ll never impress me, you have the last word.

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The Org is terrified of apostates

by SecretSlaveClass in

i knew apostasy was a serious concern for the org, but until i watched this video, i had no idea how afraid they actually were.

all this guy wants is to do is not turn in his fs hours and immediately they (elders) set about drilling him about who are what influenced his decision, as if he was incapable of making his own (which as the elders confirm, in the org is highly discouraged).

they are convinced he has been communicating with apostates or visiting apostate web sites.

SimonSays

Outlaw: What People?.....I don`t belong to any organized group.....You Do..

SOCIAL GROUP: In sociology, a group is usually defined as a number of people who identify and interact with one another. This is a very broad definition, as it includes groups of all sizes, from dyads to whole societies.

My bad, I guess you are that ignorant, since you can’t understand the daily encounter you have in this site. I guess this is why you people can’t tell what the truth is another more.

OUTLAW:I never asked that Question..

Watchtower and its JW Cult Members are "Notorious" for Misleading People.

That`s what the Article "You Quoted" was about..

You Have Just Proved The Articles Point.......Good Job!!..

My point was if the WTS doesn’t fear the CC, it would definitely not fear Apostates promoting false ideals through manipulation tactics just like the Catholic Church.

OUTLAW:Typical "Lazy Ass" JW,caught in his own Deceitful Bullshit..

Looking for a "Way Out" of the Mess he`s Posted..

I’m disappointed, you couldn’t come up with a better anecdote of a child’s saying “I know you are but what am I”. I wonder who the real coward is. Dust yourself off and don’t worry, you’ll never lose your friends here. There will always be cult minded misleading people to support your deceit. I hope i gave everyone the opportunity to vent to get rid of their anxiety. You should feel better now, carry on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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The Org is terrified of apostates

by SecretSlaveClass in

i knew apostasy was a serious concern for the org, but until i watched this video, i had no idea how afraid they actually were.

all this guy wants is to do is not turn in his fs hours and immediately they (elders) set about drilling him about who are what influenced his decision, as if he was incapable of making his own (which as the elders confirm, in the org is highly discouraged).

they are convinced he has been communicating with apostates or visiting apostate web sites.

SimonSays

SimonSays should have Printed more of the Article....But..
That`s what Watchtower and Watchtower "JW Cult" Members do..
Use partial Quotes..
So the Original Quote Is misrepresented,in favour of the WatchTower and It`s JW Cult Members..OUTLAW

OUTLAW: Sorry to burst your bubble, but isn’t that what YOU PEOPLE being doing for 15 years? That was the point, however your ignorant and deceptive ways of your trashy cartoons makes that distinction when your question is, does the WTS fear apostates because of their continued MANIPULATION of FACTS. Since you have the article, PRINT OUT THE REST, so people can point at you in order for people to know that the BIGGEST LIARS are Born in JW turned BLASPHEMERS.

By the way, don’t tell you’re that ignorant not to make a distinction when it comes to OPINIONS. Stick to cartoons there funnier.

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The Org is terrified of apostates

by SecretSlaveClass in

i knew apostasy was a serious concern for the org, but until i watched this video, i had no idea how afraid they actually were.

all this guy wants is to do is not turn in his fs hours and immediately they (elders) set about drilling him about who are what influenced his decision, as if he was incapable of making his own (which as the elders confirm, in the org is highly discouraged).

they are convinced he has been communicating with apostates or visiting apostate web sites.

SimonSays

Looks like 2004 on my phone. Do you have a link to that? Then u can actually see where it's from. HeyThere

Here's the link for you verification: http://www.pewforum.org/2015/05/12/americas-changing-religious-landscape/

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The Org is terrified of apostates

by SecretSlaveClass in

i knew apostasy was a serious concern for the org, but until i watched this video, i had no idea how afraid they actually were.

all this guy wants is to do is not turn in his fs hours and immediately they (elders) set about drilling him about who are what influenced his decision, as if he was incapable of making his own (which as the elders confirm, in the org is highly discouraged).

they are convinced he has been communicating with apostates or visiting apostate web sites.

SimonSays

I know that you know the significance of what I said. Your quote from Pope Francis has an uncanny resemblance to what I heard in the 1970s.Village Idiot

Well I wouldn’t know what to tell you about the Popes busy schedule, and what his intents are with his comments. I know that in 2013 the Conference of Catholic Bishops urged the Pope to allow married Bishops in South America the full rights of Bishop since there was a big shortage, and I believe that was resolved in late 2014. So when he started talking about the witnesses, I don’t know if it was a scheduled event or an urgent meeting.

Pray Tell: has tracked the story of Bishop Erwin Kräutler’s meeting with Pope Francis about the severe priesthood shortage and mandatory celibacy in Brazil, and Francis’ suggestion that the bishops of Brazil set up commission to make suggestions to Rome for a solution. This has now happened.

Either way, all religion will be attacked. You know very well. So who has what percent is meaningless. it's about good verses evil. Will see who was right at the end. As you said in a different thread. Something to look forward to in my death bed, right!

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The Org is terrified of apostates

by SecretSlaveClass in

i knew apostasy was a serious concern for the org, but until i watched this video, i had no idea how afraid they actually were.

all this guy wants is to do is not turn in his fs hours and immediately they (elders) set about drilling him about who are what influenced his decision, as if he was incapable of making his own (which as the elders confirm, in the org is highly discouraged).

they are convinced he has been communicating with apostates or visiting apostate web sites.

SimonSays

SimonSays, I remember an almost identical quote on Catholics converting to JWs as far back as 40 years ago. It's an old quote that's been refurbished. In any case 10,000 is a trivial number if you bother to think about it. (Hint: It's .001% of all Catholics) village idiot

Village idiot: Well I guess the Catholics continue with the same ideology, however, since the Pontiff Francis is making the pitch, I guess you would need to email him to let him know that we live in the 21 century.

Village idiot: You are correct on the rise of atheist and Gnostic's. But I believe that is the rivalry between good and bad. One day we’ll have to bow down to anti Christ. But it will be for a short time. Just bear in mind, while atheist think they have an ally with the anti Christ hell remove disloyal people first. An example would Kim Jung Un. He illuminates his most loyal members, why?

Wait....am I missing something? Simon your numbers are from nearly 10 years ago (2007) or am I not seeing that right? That's not current at all....and jw numbers are pretty stagnant...something just doesn't add up here. HeyThere

Heyther: You are correct when you mentioned your missing something. Stats from right to left, 2007-2014-change.

On the change, you are correct. Numbers shows no difference for JW’s while the Catholic church dropped 3.1. percent in 7 years.That’s the call for alarm according to them.

The Stats are good Outlaw

okay then.