I find it incredible that you were going to all the meetings for a whole year but you are not allowed to be reinstated because you are not making any attempt at reconciliation with your wife. That is ridiculous. Since when does trying to repair an obviously broken marriage have anything to do with being accepted as a Christian again, especially since it is your wife that is refusing to move to your new town? You are supposed to show works befitting repentance of your adultery, not works showing you still love your wife, which you obviously don't. What on earth do the elders expect you to do? I suspect that either you are not telling us the full story about why the elders are not reinstating you. Are you still secretly fooling around with women?
I'd give the elders the big finger. Find another church. Find a new family.
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Judical Committee/ Plea for Reinstatement help
by livingalie inhello to all it has been awhile since my last post but i have been lurking .i just wanted to be careful since i have been trying to be reinstated.
to give you a little background in short after i left bethel (1993-1999) in 1999 i got married to a local sister from new york city ( brooklyn).i worked at different jobs but the last job i had was with the city of ny after 9/11 i lost the job .i told my wife about a job down south ,i told her that i would go down try the job out and if it looks like a good fit and it would work out she should move down in a few months .the job was going great things were looking up i told her to moved down but she hated the town said it was to small nothing to do but the great thing about it was that her job was in the town also all she would have to do was just transfer no job hunting at all .
my wife would not move this went on for the next 2 years she said she was coming down then she said she need to finish up something at work .
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Irish Court Says No To Jehovah's Witnesses
by Kenneson insee "congregation of jehovah's witnesses denied part in ms. k case".
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http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/breaking-news/national/article2055415.ece.
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Interesting. Thanks for posting that link.
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High propaganda Dec 15th WT study articles - the end is nigh!!
by yaddayadda in(could someone kindly format this for me into paragraphs where i have put a [ as i use mozilla firefox).
probably already been threads about these, but major puke alert with the first and third study articles in the dec 15th 2006. the society are really ramping up the doomsday rhetoric with these.
[the first study article is entitled "the great day of jehovah is near".
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Ok, Thanks Kudra. I'll test it out with this post.
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High propaganda Dec 15th WT study articles - the end is nigh!!
by yaddayadda in(could someone kindly format this for me into paragraphs where i have put a [ as i use mozilla firefox).
probably already been threads about these, but major puke alert with the first and third study articles in the dec 15th 2006. the society are really ramping up the doomsday rhetoric with these.
[the first study article is entitled "the great day of jehovah is near".
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Thanks Mary :-) (I made a few changes to my original post after you reformatted it, but that's cool. I should do my double-checking before posting.)
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High propaganda Dec 15th WT study articles - the end is nigh!!
by yaddayadda in(could someone kindly format this for me into paragraphs where i have put a [ as i use mozilla firefox).
probably already been threads about these, but major puke alert with the first and third study articles in the dec 15th 2006. the society are really ramping up the doomsday rhetoric with these.
[the first study article is entitled "the great day of jehovah is near".
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(could someone kindly format this for me into paragraphs where I have put a [ as I use Mozilla Firefox). Probably already been threads about these, but major puke alert with the first and third study articles in the Dec 15th 2006. The Society are really ramping up the doomsday rhetoric with these.
[The first study article is entitled "The Great Day of Jehovah is Near". The third study article is "Cause Justice to be done". (A study article on prayer is sandwiched in-between.) The Society really beat the URGENCY drum in the first study article. Paragraph 12 is particularly obnoxious where it reads in part: "Jesus warned that even some of his followers would lose their sense of urgency.....In contrast, the faithful and discreet slave class loyally keeps its sense of urgency. The slave class has kept on the watch and proved itself ready. Jesus has appointed it "over all his belongings" here on the earth. - Matthew 24: 42-47". Yes, the Governing Body and their colleagues literally feel they are being loyal to God and doing the right thing by perpetually proclaiming the end is nigh! They see no credibility problem at all with their embarrassing history of failed predictions and prophecies, nor do they see any conflict at all with having been 'appointed' by Jesus as the divine channel of communication for Jehovah and the definition of a false prophet of Jehovah at Dueteronmy 18: 20-22!!
[Paragraph 9 is worded curiously. It says: "Because of "their wish," these ridiculers prefer to ignore that Jehovah has intervened in mankind's affairs in the past. Both Jesus Christ and the apostle Peter refer to two such EVENTS [emphasis mine] - "the days of Noah" and "the days of Lot." (Luke 17: 26-30; 2 Peter 2:5-9) Before the Flood, people took no note of the warning Noah gave. Likewise, prior to the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah, in the eyes of his sons-in-law, Lot "seemed like a man who was joking." - Genesis 19:14."
[It seems careless that they use the word 'events' to describe 'the days of Noah' and 'the days of Lot'. The Society's official line is that the 'days' here are not 'events' per se but are periods of time prior to the final destructive event. These preliminary periods of time and the accompanying bad conditions are said to be paralleled with Jesus supposed presence (parousia) since 1914. So the Society appears to have been quite sloppy in describing these 'days' in Luke 17 as 'events' as it conflicts with their own parousia teaching. The truth is of course that Jesus hasn't been present at all since 1914 and his parousia cannot have already started. It is quite clear that Jesus is comparing his arrival/coming with the destructive EVENTS of Noah's and Lot's time, ie, the destruction itself, not the 'days' preceding the final event. Jesus' presence only starts after his coming, just as the flood wasn't present until it started raining.
[The final paragraph is also high on the barf factor. It reads: "How appropriate, then, is the yeartext that has been selected for the 2007 calendar year: "The great day of Jehovah is near." God's people are convinced that "it is near, and there is a hurrying of it very much." (Zeph 1..) "It will not be late." (Habakkuk 2..) So as we await that day, may we be ever alert to the time in which we live, realizing that the final fulfillment of these prophecies is near at hand!"
[Yes, GODS PEOPLE (in reality, the Governing Body) are CONVINCED the end is NEAR AT HAND! They have been unashamedly announcing this for 120 years, yet no reasons are given for why we should especially believe them now!!
[The third study article mentions a few times how some have grown tired, have lost their sense of urgency and are no longer 'serving Jehovah' (meaning 'no longer with the organisation'). Paragraph one candidly states: "Granted, many of these faithful ones thought that by now Armageddon would have come and gone." DARN RIGHT and who is to blame for getting their expectations so high all the time!!! These statements by the Society seem to be coming out more in recent years and highlights the real existence of this problem in the organisation and shows that the Society are concerned about it. Unfortunately, the solution to the increasing sense of tiredness and disappointment at the length of time taken for Armageddon to arrive? = 'prayer, patience, and perserverance' (perservering in the Society's programme of works). The Society never admits to any blame for the thousands it stumbles from Christian faith; it is only interested in putting heavy loads on their back and beating it's fellow slaves to do more and more.
[The article really holds out the big carrot. It plays on JW's desire for 'justice to be done' by Jesus returning to slaughter the human race (except JW's of course). The article thus exposes the perverse JW craving for their divine doomsday to arrive. This is the real reason JW's remain so attached to the organisation. The JW motivating force is FEAR and DREAD not love and hope. This is exemplified by the last sentence of the final paragraph: "Yes, despite the injustices that Satan's world presently inflicts upon us, we firmly believe that God shall "cause justice to be done for his chosen ones" ". JW's really believe that God owes it to them to massacre billions of 'worldlings' and persons in 'false religions' for all the imagined injustices personally done to them. The whole planet revolves around the JW organisation and God is going to bring a holocaust to this planet for collectively saying, "No thanks, I'm not interested" on a Saturday morning! -
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THE BACK PEDDLING HAS ALREADY BEGUN......
by Mary inas i mentioned before in another thread, my dub aunt, along with several other witnesses, told me that they were specifically told that the governing body let it be known that tract work would trigger the beginning of the end by infuriating the other religions and somehow causing the governments to "turn on babylon the great".
this was supposed to start before the end of this year.
one thing i mentioned is that they were smart enough this time, not to put anything down in writing, but simply let it get around by "word of mouth".
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But wasn't there an almost identical special tract campaign 10 years ago? I can vaguely it, but can't remember the tract itself. I'd love to see a scan to compare it to this years one.
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The only really fatal mistake would be if they ever changed any of their core doctrines to be more in line with orthodox Christendom, ie, if they decided to accept the trinity, or stated that the human soul is immortal after all, or that all Christians go to heaven. Their unorthodox central doctrines are the real glue that hold JW's together and spellbound to the GB. If the GB ever changed any of those it would be catastrophic, and the same thing would happen to the organisation as happened to Herbert Armstrong's religion after he died.
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Jehovahs Witnesses and Ecclesiastical Authority
by concerned elder ini have research the subject throughly and would be willing to share with those who have an interest.. concerned elder.
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Thanks. I'm looking forward to reading your research. Personally I don't think there is anything wrong with the concept and existence of a GB per se. The issue is about the degree of control and authority they exert, particularly if that authority is claimed to have divine backing. It's amazing how JW's have swallowed the idea that the GB is a modern-day parallel to the first century body in Jerusalem. To most persons the flaw in such a notion is quite obvious, but for those who are brainwashed and indoctrinated over many years into accepting such an idea its not until they analyse it methodically that the differences become glaringly apparent.
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Astonishing Publisher Peak in Britain for August 2006
by slimboyfat inwell i just got the new kingdom ministry for december and it has the publisher peak for august: 129,482!.
that is quite an amazing total when you compare it to the trend of recent years:.
2006 - 129,482. i wish i could produce a graph, but you get the picture - there has been a dramatic increase in the publisher peak number this year compared with the recent downward trend after the 1995 "generation" change and subsequent stagnation.
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I'd say the somewhat surprising increase is due to the special tract campaign about false religions end being near, the scary Years text for 2006 and the focus in Convention talks about the nearness of the end. The rank and file are psychologically being played like a fiddle. JW's will always respond to this kind of psychological manipulation because their religion is not focused on Jesus Christ and he is not their rock; it is their hope that the end of this world will come very soon and only they will survive into the big lotto paradise earth that their faith is built upon. Growth is proportionate exactly to that hope (see 1975), or in other words, statistical growth is commensurate to how much the WT can ramp up expectations that the end is near. This trend will likely increase right up to 2014.
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How the Society can almost drop 1914 and STILL retain their authority
by yaddayadda inthey can have the best of both worlds.
it would be quite easy, with a bit of imagination, for them to simply adopt an interpretation of scripture similar to the seventh day adventists belief about 1843. the sda's teach that since 1843 jesus has been engaged in an 'investigative judgment' upon christendom, having entered into the 'inner sanctuary' of heaven (or something to that effect) on that date to receive special authority to do that.
jesus since then has used the sda's as his favoured group of christians.
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I agree Steven but I think you've missed my point a bit. They don't need to drop 1914, just slide a lot of prophecy attached to it up into the future.