the fact that in the very beginning god created man and then woman and placed them in the garden of eden, then he told them that they could partake of all the fruits from the trees but that they shouldnt touch his tree.
the tree of knowledgethat is like putting cookies in front of a kid and telling them that they cant eat them.
then he allowed satan to speak to eve (through the serpent) and convince her to eat and then she would know all that was good and bad.
wow...lot's of typos up there...it should have said:someone was talking about the movie "The Village"....t-hee
That's IT...the WTS is collecting all that money so they start a Village (Paradise) somewhere on this old earth. Anyone have a guess where??
the fact that in the very beginning god created man and then woman and placed them in the garden of eden, then he told them that they could partake of all the fruits from the trees but that they shouldnt touch his tree.
the tree of knowledgethat is like putting cookies in front of a kid and telling them that they cant eat them.
then he allowed satan to speak to eve (through the serpent) and convince her to eat and then she would know all that was good and bad.
Yep! I often wonder myself why God let Satan run amuck and tempt us humans when we can do a bad enough number of sins among ourselves without Satan.
We don't need no stinking Satan!
while jehovah's witnesses all over the world are out of work, or wondering where their next meal might come from, or ravished from the results of devastating hurricanes, the watchtower society has taken the contributions from the very pockets of their own members and are now selling the very equipment that their faithful members contributed for.
if the equipment listed below is still in "good technical condition" as the offer describes, then why is it being sold?
why was "new" equipment purchased if this equipment is still in good working order?
Actually, I think they are getting ready to call it a DAY! They see the writing on the wall and their days are numbered. Little by little the WTS is closing the store. To many false prophet doctrines and householders are just not going for the bait anymore, members are dropping out like flys.
I could see it clearly when they announced a monthly ONLY Awake mag.
i've never posted anything on the net before.
just want to see if it works.
i left the wts in '73 - just couldn't wait those extra two years.
Welcome wombat, You wouldn't be from Tasmania, would ya?
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i always remember jws making a special effort to go out on fs on christmas day...and near me they still do....what will you say to them if they should knock on your door?.
db74
Just in case they do knock on your door on Xmas day....you can always tack on your door that an Apostate lives here. Other than that...Invite them in for some Egg-Nog...Be kind to them.
how firm a foundation of forgeries?
bogus letters of paul.
by mark smith .
Some stories are not to be believed...IMHO..Mark Smith wants to put doubt in a believers mind that Paul's letters were a Forgery when in fact he has no proof.
I read an unbelieveable story on Freeminds. It just so happens this Dave who is visiting Bethel has a friend who is rooming with Leo Greenleas????? Maybe Dave did go to Bethel in 1983 for art consulting but somehow Dave's story (this part anyway) just doesn't ring true with me:
He had found out where the brother from my old hall was and left me a note. It was Tuesday night and I had to go with the kid from the art department to the book study. I told him I would meet up with him later and we would go to the hall at Bethel. I wanted to hunt down the guy from my old hall first. I got the instruction on how to find his room and headed to it right after dinner time (which again, I sat alone in my room admiring my sink faucet). I then headed to go see the brother from my old hall. When I found the right building I went up to the right floor and knocked at the door. The kid I knew back in my old hall answered the door with a shocked look on his face that very nervously turned into a half smile. He asked what I was doing there and I told him. Then he invited me into the apartment. I had been in several rooms of the people in the art department and the guy from the purchasing department and most of them were the size of a walk-in closet that had a bed that came out of the wall.
This was a full-blown two-bedroom apartment with a small living room. I knew he had only been there a few months and I had heard the story about how someone has to die off or get kicked out to get a larger room, but this was a damn palace compared to every one else's dump. I looked around and asked him how he got such a nice place after only being there for a few months. He told me that he was Leo Greenlees' (a Governing Body member) new room mate). I looked at him again and asked how did that happen? He backed up a few paces and in a low soft voice said what I had heard several times before: "You can't tell anyone I told you this but..." I had heard that intro to a statement several times before on this trip, but this one I was dying to hear.
He told me that Leo's last roommate had to leave Bethel, so Leo asked him to be his new roommate. I asked him why Leo's last roommate had to leave Bethel. He told me that he wasn't supposed to tell anyone. I looked him straight in the eye (I have this mean kind of "I'll rip your throat out kind of look when I want to, I don't know where I got it, I think I had it as a baby) and I told him that if one more person told me in a quiet voice not to tell anyone something they were about to tell me I was going to blow up. He sat down and repeated his request for me to keep what he was about to tell me to myself. He said the average brother might not understand. I said, Just tell me!
He said that Leo's last roommate had been kicked out of Bethel because he would get new young brothers drunk and then bring them up to his room and have sex with them in their butt. Yes, he actually said "have sex with them in their butt." I didn't know whether to laugh my ass off or drop to the floor in a state of shock. I then asked him if his old roommate was gay. He looked at me a little funny and asked me what did I think? I didn't know Leo Greenlees from Mr. Green Jeans so I didn't know what to think at that point. http://www.freeminds.org/bethel/dave.htm
my parents are on the circuit, well educated, well intentioned and totally committed to the wts.
for years i have argued with them over issues and doctrine.
they know most things that are wrong with the wts but refuse to budge on the idea that it is the only true religion.
They do NOT have the light that gets brighter-- it get’s dimmer.
*For example: What is the significance of 1914 again?
"The light gets dimmer" It sure does....
i just wanted to introduce myself.
i have read many threads here for several years, but never made a commitment to stick around.
tonight i understand why.
Welcome Apostate Kate, I found this web site 2 months ago and it only took me one day before I realized it was a place to express my greivence for all the questions I had in my head about the WTS. The Elders just didn't have the answers or wouldn't give me the right answer. I walked away from them feeling empty.
On this discussion board there is a plethora of information to answer all of your questions by people who have the knowledge and research at their fingertips.
I have found though, that others can give misinformation. So please check the info you are given before excepting it as the truth.
scroll down to the next to the last paragraph.
http://groong.usc.edu/news/msg131314.html armenian news network / groong [next article][previous article][main index] from secterianism to colored revolution - one stepfrom: sebouh z tashjian <[email protected]>date: wed, 07 dec 2005 16:04:18 +0400 (amt) from sectarianism to colored revolution - one step
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I have yet to understand what "Gold and Brilliant Market: means!
there are many ways that we can actively protest against the watchtower's unjust and damaging policies.
here is one example of a method that is proving successful.
writing a letter is time-consuming for the author, but the results are worth it.
When the WTBTS of Christian Jehovah's Witnesses proclaim that Babylon the Great will be destoryed (meaning all false religion) Rev. 18: 9-10. They don't know they are condeming their own belief system.
