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  Jesus DID doubt Jehovah and himself "why has thou forsaken me."

  by Witness 007 in

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  2. scandals

  jesus asked that "lord if this cup can be taken from my....but as you will it.

  " and ofcourse while hanging he said "lord lord why have you forsaken me.

  " but the watchtower puts a positive spin on this saying he as god's son wasn't doubting or changing his mind...what do you think?

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  Borgia

  Famous last words I guess....
  
  "This is a sharp medicine, but it is a physician for all diseases and miseries." - Sir Walter Raleigh
  
  "Has God forgotten everything I've done for him ?" - Louis 14th
  
  "Now, now my good man, this is no time for making enemies."— Voltaire when on his deathbed a priest urging him to renounce Satan
  
  Cheers
  
  Borgia
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  JW'S: WHAT A LOVING BUNCH!

  by Mary in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i just found out that one of my moms friends is in the process of being taken to the cleaners by her scumbag son-in-law and her own daughter---both who are witnesses.

  she's been widowed for several years now and, like many witnesses, her husband had no life insurance (why bother----the new system was going to be here long before either of them got sick or died right?

  ) and she had never worked outside the home.. anyway, she managed to save enough money through working part time (she gets part of her husband's pension but it's only about $800.00 a month) and she put a small downpayment on a place to live.

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  Borgia

  So, To whom can we send a brown carnation to? Cheers Borgia
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  As of tomorrow I will no longer be a JW

  by passwordprotected in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  after my last post where i asked for advice on how to handle whether i should tell an elder that we've been going to church, i decided to tell a local elder who's related to me through marriage.

  this was to save my dad having to 'report' me (i'd told my dad we go to church).

  anyway, i had an interesting chat with him and he said some very personally revealing things re.

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  Borgia

  Hi Mark,
  
  Making decisions is your own privilege and by the looks of it, you've handed it ok. I'm not at all amazed about the fact that these elders had tears in their eyes but nevertheless did not give you enough room to undermine their shaky foundations....You must have been a well appreciated person before that. It may also show how "mature" these elders have taken it, and kept to the script along the lines of 2 Tim 2:23 (+24) making parting of ways easier.
  
  As you said, it not diminishes the fact that they are deluded....
  
  Congrats on your exit. I'm glad for you and your wife. Enjoy your freedom.
  
  Cheers
  
  Borgia
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  The WTS's "Almighty God" is not so Almighty

  by bob1999 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  wt 1981 .

  "actually, by teaching that god is omnipresent christendom has confused matters and made it more difficult for god to be real to his worshipers.

  how could god be present everywhere at the same time?

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  Borgia

  and with much weight

  And the TF suggested with much weight? My guess: Joe the Boozer?
  
  Cheers
  
  Borgia
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  Pro's and Con's of DAing myself.

  by lancelink in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i have been wrestling with the idea of da'ing myself for close to a year now.

  but there is a small area in my subconscious that whispers "this is not a good idea.

  i haven't been to a meeting in over six months, no service in seven years.

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  Borgia

  Lancelink,
  
  By the tone of your post, I would say it does not feel nice to be in such a prison. But really, it is one of your own making.
  
  You can step out of it, whenever you want. The wals that surround you, keep you going over Da-ing or not, are imaginary, not real.
  
  Just leave!
  
  Cheers
  
  Borgia
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  Make a statement you have found to be TRUE.

  by gaiagirl in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  jw's like to refer to their body of beliefs as "the truth", even when those beliefs are adjusted or even reversed, giving rise to the question 'if this is "the truth", then what were the beliefs which were promoted as "the truth" until the change'?.

  state something you have actually found to be "true", in the sense that, in your experience, it agrees with what is observed in the real world.. .

  i'll start: knowledge is power

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  Borgia

  If you tear a fly's wings, it will crawl. When you tear his legs it will not only crawl but crawl in circles...
  
  Cheers
  
  Borgia
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  Make a statement you have found to be TRUE.

  by gaiagirl in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  jw's like to refer to their body of beliefs as "the truth", even when those beliefs are adjusted or even reversed, giving rise to the question 'if this is "the truth", then what were the beliefs which were promoted as "the truth" until the change'?.

  state something you have actually found to be "true", in the sense that, in your experience, it agrees with what is observed in the real world.. .

  i'll start: knowledge is power

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  Borgia

  Sacolton,
  
  You may fart, It may stink, but the blood pressure has been lowered! Approach from the good side!
  
  Cheers
  
  Borgia
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  well, we had a baby...

  by drew sagan in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i've mentioned this to a few jwd friends but haven't posted it.

  on september 1, 2008 me and my wife (who posts here as 'amber rose') had a baby boy.

  just wanted to share!

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  Borgia

  I chime in here, man. Congrats to you and Amber Rose! At least you already got the hand off changing diapers after six weeks along with the smell...ha ha ha!Enjoy! Cheers Borgia
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  How will the Watchtower help its members during hard economic times?

  by truthseeker in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it's good to see many, many churches dipping into their funds to help the needy, the homeless and providing food and shelter for those who need it.. what can be said of "god's organization"?.

  what do they do to help people in these tough economic times?.

  will they help you with food?

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  Borgia

  O dear. You got it all wrong.
  
  You see, instead of going 3 nights in a row to meetings, now we will only have to go 2 nights. That saves gas....! In light of the current events, is it not an example of the tender care the GB has for the sheep?
  
  No, the question is not what the org will do for you, but what you can do for the org. Last convention the begged brothers to please, do not abandon us, do not leave us doing all the work alone. We need you!
  
  Blwerk
  
  Cheers
  
  Borgia
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  Nov 15 WT Study Edition - Appeal to help inactive ones

  by TJ - iAmCleared2Land in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  heard today that the nov 15 issue has two of its four study articles targeted at helping inactive ones.

  get ready for the phone calls to start up.

  has the scans of this been posted yet?.

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  Borgia

  Hahaha. DA while you can. I like that.
  
  But seriously, I too feel they have been doing some stage setting these last 3 years.
  
  If and when it will become a witch hunt, well, bring it on! There's nothing they can do that will harm me. maybe hinder me, but not harm me. That time belongs to the past.
  Cheers
  
  Borgia