Love the pics MIS!
you look soooo cute in your pig-tails!
your hubby's a cutey! you guys look really cute together.
((((smooches)))) to you from freedomlover!
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by Honesty in.
that is, if you are able to without the prospect of facing a three-man kangaroo court appointed by jerhover to keep the congregation clean from apostate influences.. i'll go first: .
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Cannabis vs Alchohol and Other Man Made Pharmacuticals
by OpenFireGlass inwell for starters i do have a prescription for cannabis (insomnia / depression).... why would i want to take pharmacuticals for insomnia/depression?
i mean, what if i get prescribed/addicted to a pill, that one day i might not be able to afford?
(if you/i grow cannabis it's more/less free)... now the moral issue... who is more likely to beat the shit out of their kids?
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**Hmmm,,. I guess peoples cafeinne/coffee addiction is a touchy subject...**
LOL! yeah.
don't forget SUGAR addiction. IMO sugar is a HUGE addiction that is a culturally "accepted" addiction. especially among the JW's. did you ever attend a gathering where there wasn't gobs of sugary foods??!! the only addiction you're still **allowed** to have as a witness.
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WTS says no confession to men necessary
by TheListener ini ran across this the other day and it caught my eye.. w85 12/1 pp.
6-7 righteousness before god
neither catholic nor protestant "justification".
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great example of the WTS own words shooting them in the foot....
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Anyone else raised in a "divided" household?
by dinah inhey folks!.
i've noticed there are many here who were raised "in the truth".
are there any who were raised in a divided household--where one parent is not a jw?.
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my hubby ithinkisee grew up in a divided house.
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Cannabis vs Alchohol and Other Man Made Pharmacuticals
by OpenFireGlass inwell for starters i do have a prescription for cannabis (insomnia / depression).... why would i want to take pharmacuticals for insomnia/depression?
i mean, what if i get prescribed/addicted to a pill, that one day i might not be able to afford?
(if you/i grow cannabis it's more/less free)... now the moral issue... who is more likely to beat the shit out of their kids?
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** And I've been involved in the culture for long enough to see what it does to people after long term use. It ain't pretty.**
coming from a family of people who have abused alcohol and other drugs I know the "unprettiness" also. it's about personal responsibility IMO.
fair enough. I just have issues with who gets to define "controlled."
that oreo remark reminds me of the last epiphany I had when I smoked. good god it was a monumental thought when I was high and the next day it was just something I laughed at for a good long time!
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This Past Sunday My Wife Took Me To The Elders- Part 2
by enlightenedcynic inthanks for all of the kind words and advice, i appreciate it greatly and will look to use some of it.
a special thank you to both cal and vitty for their pm's which gave me a different perspective to look from.. so the p.o.
meets with us in one of the back rooms and my wife starts to speak.
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grrr....yes - we totally understand the frustration. I don't think anyone here will think any less of you for your answer to the PO. I don't think you "chickened out." you do - what you have to do, when you have to do it.
maybe I can give you a woman's perspective. your wife sounds like she really does love you. Don't you remember what it was like to think that anyone who has apostate ideas is being over reached by Satan and you have to help them!? I think we forget sometimes that we ALL used to think this way.....it was part of the mind control. She has been feeling like you and she were total strangers. She probably is panicked that she will lose you and your kids would lose their father. She probably feels like you and she have connected again and you are back on the same path. When women are emotionally disconnected from their partners they draw away emotionally AND sexually. it sounds like she feels you are back on track.
even when my husband broke the news to me about his apostate ideas and I decided to hear him out before I went to any elders - I had a really hard time trying to justify in my own head that being nice to him didn't mean I was being disloyal to god. it was this weird mind trip game I had to deal with. I felt GUILTY for just being nice to him the first few days and weeks after he broke the news.
it's sounds like you've bought yourself some time with your family. perhaps you can go about things from a different angel with your wife.
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Cannabis vs Alchohol and Other Man Made Pharmacuticals
by OpenFireGlass inwell for starters i do have a prescription for cannabis (insomnia / depression).... why would i want to take pharmacuticals for insomnia/depression?
i mean, what if i get prescribed/addicted to a pill, that one day i might not be able to afford?
(if you/i grow cannabis it's more/less free)... now the moral issue... who is more likely to beat the shit out of their kids?
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I totally don't know what this thread started out as because I haven't read all the way through it....that being said...
Alot of herbs sold in health food stores can have the same effect on people. I've had herbal remedies from doc's that have made me sicker than pot ever has. The same can be said of alcohol.
I think it comes down to the "forbidden" nature of pot in US. The US has some of the stupidest, prudish ideas and cultural impressions about many things that they consider taboo - sexual repression is a big one. Other cultures and countries are more open to things like sex, and pot and they don't seem to have the abuse record that other places like the US have.
I for one LOVE pot. I don't have to "wake and bake" (LOL!) but like OFG I need my coffee in the morning. I feel I'm a responsible pot smoker and I for one think pot should be legalized. People are going to smoke it regardless if it's legal or not. Just like prohibition. People still drank, probably more so because being the human animals we are there's something even more enjoyable about doing something that is "wrong" - "bad" - or (gasp!) "ILLEGAL!"
pot has helped me lose so many JW inhibitions that have held me back in certain areas. It's really helped me chill about a lot of things that I don't need to worry about any longer. so for that I'm grateful that great god Jehovah created POT for me!! he he he. -
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by Honesty in.
that is, if you are able to without the prospect of facing a three-man kangaroo court appointed by jerhover to keep the congregation clean from apostate influences.. i'll go first: .
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**Freedomlover- you look so innocent and young, you're adorable. **
he he....yes I get the young and innocent thing a lot! If they only knew.......mmwwhahahaha
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This Past Sunday My Wife Took Me To The Elders!
by enlightenedcynic inearly sunday morning, around 1:30 a.m., my wife wakes me and says that she can't sleep and needs to talk with me.
i say ok and she proceeds to tell me that she wants a seperation.
i was hurt, but not shocked, because our relationship is not that close at this point after 14 yrs of marriage.
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so sorry to hear this.
when my husband broke the news that he was "apostate" I can't believe how close I came to telling on him. It's such a knee jerk reaction for a witness.
I'm truly sorry. this situation just sucks. there's no way around that.....
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DAMN MAC!!!
oh well.....anybody suggest how to do this?