Posts by AuldSoul

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Ask Fred E Hathaway, a.k.a. Q. Bert

by Fred E Hathaway in

for those who feel that i've hijacked your thread(s), i'm still relatively new here, so your forgiveness (based on this acknowledgement and apology) is appreciated.

i'm posting this link, http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/12/131766/2343640/post.ashx#2343640, on the other threads as soon as i can.

bear with me as i attend to the necessary housework involved.. fred/q..

AuldSoul

FEH,

You are trying to answer a question with a question. You still haven't answered my first question, now you added a second unanswered question, as well.

You are trying to alter my question into a different question. My question isn't about a discrepancy regarding 1914. My question is about what they taught (until at least 1924) about the timing of the parousia contrasted by what they now teach regarding how to identify the wise virgins.

(assuming that your portrayal of history is accurate)

I strongly encourage you to refrain from assuming that my portrayal of their actual history is correct. I even more strongly encourage you to refrain from assuming that their portrayal of their actual history is correct. I have nothing whatsoever to gain from presenting a false history of their doctrines, but they have much to gain by doing so.

On the one hand they say that the wise virgins would be expectantly awaiting the parousia (presence) of the bridegroom in 1914. On the other hand it is easily verifiable that they did not think the parousia was yet future in the year 1913, they thought it had already happened. They were provably not waiting for the parousia 1914; they were convinced the parousia began in 1874.

Don't take my word for it. Ask them.

—AuldSoul

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Jeptha's Daughter- what actuallyt happened??

by Kudra in

hi all, especially the scholars amongst you ;)a .

i was listening to richard dawkin's talk at lynchburg va and he was tlaking about how horrible the god of the old testament was- and he mentioned this: .

that when jeptha's daughter came out (and jeptha had promised god he'd sacrifice the first thing out of his house) that he had to sacrifice her as a burnt offering.

AuldSoul

To be fair, Jepthah vowed something in the event or on the condition of something else.

He attributed victory to God in much the same way the United States of America attributed victory to God after the American Revolution, World War I, and World War II. Notably, the US of A did not attribute their failure in the Viet Nam "conflict" to God.

The point is simple: God is not to blame for everything mankind attributes to God, or everything mankind decides to do or not do as a result of their own attribution of blame or success. The example from Jeremiah shared by ABR can be 100% correct and Jepthah's daughter may have been burned to death anyway.

Respectfully,
AuldSoul

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Ask Fred E Hathaway, a.k.a. Q. Bert

by Fred E Hathaway in

for those who feel that i've hijacked your thread(s), i'm still relatively new here, so your forgiveness (based on this acknowledgement and apology) is appreciated.

i'm posting this link, http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/12/131766/2343640/post.ashx#2343640, on the other threads as soon as i can.

bear with me as i attend to the necessary housework involved.. fred/q..

AuldSoul

Fred,

I PM'd my response to WAC because it was off topic. My question for you, however, was not off topic and was not answered yet. If you have an answer to my question that will do something other than prove that your GB does not deserve to call itself discreet, please share it.

—AuldSoul

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Ask Fred E Hathaway, a.k.a. Q. Bert

by Fred E Hathaway in

for those who feel that i've hijacked your thread(s), i'm still relatively new here, so your forgiveness (based on this acknowledgement and apology) is appreciated.

i'm posting this link, http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/12/131766/2343640/post.ashx#2343640, on the other threads as soon as i can.

bear with me as i attend to the necessary housework involved.. fred/q..

AuldSoul

<*cough!*>

You forgot one: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/12/131766/2344959/post.ashx#2344959

Please answer my question instead of answering the one you prefer. I didn't ask the one you prefer.

—AuldSoul

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Anyone have a parent who is gay?

by Ziggy in

jw
friends

good afternoon!

my apologies if this has been asked before, but i am wondering:.

(1) if there is anyone on this forum, who has a mom or dad who opened up that they were gay?.

AuldSoul

I have a gay Father-In-Law. Does that count?

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Ask Fred E Hathaway, a.k.a. Q. Bert

by Fred E Hathaway in

for those who feel that i've hijacked your thread(s), i'm still relatively new here, so your forgiveness (based on this acknowledgement and apology) is appreciated.

i'm posting this link, http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/12/131766/2343640/post.ashx#2343640, on the other threads as soon as i can.

bear with me as i attend to the necessary housework involved.. fred/q..

AuldSoul

OMG! Through his user name, he's warning us about the impact of global warming on livestock feed!

Fear thawed hay!

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Ask Fred E Hathaway, a.k.a. Q. Bert

by Fred E Hathaway in

for those who feel that i've hijacked your thread(s), i'm still relatively new here, so your forgiveness (based on this acknowledgement and apology) is appreciated.

i'm posting this link, http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/12/131766/2343640/post.ashx#2343640, on the other threads as soon as i can.

bear with me as i attend to the necessary housework involved.. fred/q..

AuldSoul

Clam,

On death row, more likely. Just kidding, Fred.

(BTW, "Why Fear Death" is missing an a from his user name)

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What are YOU passionate about?

by lonelysheep in

jw
friends

ok, so we all know the wt used to be our passion till that died!.

what are you passionate about today?

kids are an automatic, and so are spouses for some people.. i'm referring to your interests that make up the core of you..

AuldSoul

You put this in the wrong section for that discussion!

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Ask Fred E Hathaway, a.k.a. Q. Bert

by Fred E Hathaway in

for those who feel that i've hijacked your thread(s), i'm still relatively new here, so your forgiveness (based on this acknowledgement and apology) is appreciated.

i'm posting this link, http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/12/131766/2343640/post.ashx#2343640, on the other threads as soon as i can.

bear with me as i attend to the necessary housework involved.. fred/q..

AuldSoul

Fred: Some day, there will be no opponents; everyone will be on one side, Jehovah's.

Ah, yes. And in this idyllic world where everyone believes and thinks unanimously no one will ever be able to beat you in an argument because they will all agree with you. I can easily see why something so self-centered and fleshly would appeal to you. No one to check your hands, no one to challenge your thinking, and plenty of unsuspecting prey.

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Ask Fred E Hathaway, a.k.a. Q. Bert

by Fred E Hathaway in

for those who feel that i've hijacked your thread(s), i'm still relatively new here, so your forgiveness (based on this acknowledgement and apology) is appreciated.

i'm posting this link, http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/12/131766/2343640/post.ashx#2343640, on the other threads as soon as i can.

bear with me as i attend to the necessary housework involved.. fred/q..

AuldSoul

Fred,

Are these the kind of non-responses we can expect from you for all our questions? What exactly were your "modest intentions of this thread" that remain "unfulfilled?" Most of us used to be Jehovah's Witnesses. Did you expect that we would ask you things you could answer from the Reasoning book? The only people who would ask such insipid questions are the people who have never been inside your favorite cult.

You did not answer my question at all, which I thought you intended as the point of this thread. I accurately rephrased the doctrine that only those awaiting the bridegroom with filled oil lamps when his parousia began in 1914 could have constituted the faithful and discreet slave at that time. I also stated that the Bible Students believed Jesus' parousia began in 1874 (which is a well-documented and easily proven belief).

Then I asked you whether it was remotely possible that someone would still be hopefully in expectation of an event 40 years after they believed the event occurred.

You responded: "We often wait for a long time, only to find out that what we waited for happened long before."

What? Let me try to reframe the question in the style of the non-response you gave. Maybe you can grasp the question better that way. Barring the mentally ill, do people often wait expectantly for something they believe has already happened?

You see, Fred, if they were provably not waiting for the return of Christ in 1914 (and that is extremely easy to prove) then they were not the wise virgins in 1914. That is why it is such an important question. If their current doctrine is correct then their own publications from the era in question prove beyond any doubt that they are not (and never were) the wise virgins. In other words, any truth they have is accidental—not the work of God. In other words, they are just another religion.

—AuldSoul