Posts by caz

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Benefits of being a Dub as a child

by pratt1 in

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i can't think of many benefits of growing up a a dub but i do remember that i always viewed the other dub kids as brorthers and sisters and they became my support system amongst the "worldly people".

i remember going into a new neighhood or a new school and knowing that once i met the dub kids there, i would automatically have friends and i would not be alone.. this was especially comforting to me because i was an only child, and many times i entered into a new school not knowing anyone and sometimes being the only black kid in the class, my dub peers made me feel welcome and accepted me into the circle immediately.. for many years i feel special to be part of this worldwide brotherhood, and i am sure it is the reason why now i am inafriad of changes and/or new surroundings.. did you have similar experiences?.

caz

I don't think that finding a bond is 'exclusive' to the jw's.

I know when I come in here and read a post put in by a fellow Aussie, I feel a bond and I have never even met them!

Think on this.

If one were to travel to the other side of their country and meet a stranger from their home town, they would chat with a common bond.

If one were to be in a foreign country, amongst a large group of people and meet a person from their own country, they would instantly share a bond.

And if it were possible and you were stranded on another planet and were to meet another 'Earthling', you would feel a connection!!!

I have not seen too many benefits for children brought up in the 'truth'.

One family I know, were very strict.

Every time i was at their house, the children were 'studying'.

These kids missed out on everything that makes being a kid fun. Then after all of the hard work by the parents and the children's own dedication; 1 son has ended up in jail for armed robbery, another son married out of the religion and D Ass'd himself and the daughter was an unmarried mother by the time she hit 19!! Although this is the worst case...... I have seen many children brought up this way only to get into trouble later and gosh when they find out the 'secrets' of the world, don't they jump in????

CaZ

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So how does one fade away, dont want to be disfellowshipped

by JoeGeneration in

so how does one fade away without moving?

consider that the elders know where you live.

will the following line work?

caz

Don't know what happened with my last post, put itself in before i finished it!

So once again...... From what I've seen, all you have to do to have them completely ignore your existence and let you get on with your own life is to tell them that you have been diognosed with severe depression bordering on bi polar disorder........that will pretty well guarantee that you never have to set eyes on them again!! But if you want the elders to stop visiting.....have a little attempt at suicide......they stay well away from you then!

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So how does one fade away, dont want to be disfellowshipped

by JoeGeneration in

so how does one fade away without moving?

consider that the elders know where you live.

will the following line work?

caz

From what I've seen, all you have to do to have them completely ignore your existence and let you get on with your own life is to tell them that you have been diognosed with severe depression bordering on bi polar disorder........tha

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Were the people I studied with just crack pots?

by caz in

i have been thinking about my late mother today, ( it would have been her b'day) and i am feeling a bit upset over the fact that i no longer have a beautiful old wooden table that she gave me before she passed away.

this piece of furniture was one of the first items that she bought when we emmigrated from the uk to aus' and she had bought it 2nd hand.

i loved that table but i got rid of it on the insistance of the 2 women i was studying with as they told me it had demons in it!

caz

What was it about the table that caused these JW's to make such a claim?

They were commenting on how lovely i kept it and they were wondering where I had got it from.

Because it was obviously an antique, I wonder now if they were thinking that it was 2nd hand all along and were just opening me up to this line of thinking?

I was living with an abusive man at the time and their idea was that the abuse might stop if the table went.......It didn't!

I'm having trouble believing all of these stories guys!!! ( I do though) but talking clothes? Demonised vegetable and the one to make me laugh...eating the pig later! Absurd teachings and beliefs hey?

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Were the people I studied with just crack pots?

by caz in

i have been thinking about my late mother today, ( it would have been her b'day) and i am feeling a bit upset over the fact that i no longer have a beautiful old wooden table that she gave me before she passed away.

this piece of furniture was one of the first items that she bought when we emmigrated from the uk to aus' and she had bought it 2nd hand.

i loved that table but i got rid of it on the insistance of the 2 women i was studying with as they told me it had demons in it!

caz

I have been thinking about my late Mother today, ( it would have been her b'day) and I am feeling a bit upset over the fact that I no longer have a beautiful old wooden table that she gave me before she passed away.

This piece of furniture was one of the first items that she bought when we emmigrated from the UK to Aus' and she had bought it 2nd hand.

I loved that table but I got rid of it on the insistance of the 2 women I was studying with as they told me it had demons in it!!

They also had me get rid of a big teddy bear given to my son as it had been given to me by a friend who was into spiritualism and such, for pretty much the same reason.

I feel like a fool for believing them but mostly because they were able to cajole me into giving away items in my home that I really did love and had wanted so much!

Is this a usual jw belief or were my 'teachers' a lil bit crazy?

CaZ

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Circumcision?

by jstalin in

does the wts have anything to say about circumcision?

is there an official doctrine?

caz

If you believe in circumcision because.......

'Leaving a babie's foreskin intact could produce problems in the future as it has been known to happen to others',

Then may i suggest that you rip from their little gums, the teeth they are going to produce, one by one as they emerge, because I have also heard that some people have to have theirs removed later in life due to problems setting in!

If you look after your foreskin on a daily basis the same way you look after your teeth, ( obviously not with a toothbrush.....Please!!! ) then you too might not have to have it removed later in your life.

CaZ

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Beheading of three Christian girls

by TopHat in

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this makes me angry....what did these girls do to deserve a fate such as this!.

http://www.edmontonsun.com/news/world/2005/10/30/1285026-sun.html

caz

I do not understand enough about the Muslim faith and all of their atrocities to comment on that topic but i do know that, even though they have been responsible for some shocking acts of terrorism and many folk over here fear that an attack on Australian soil is imminent..........If you were to ask the Australian Public who they fear most in this world, i'm sure that the majority would tell you that they fear the "mad man" George Bush!!

That man alone scares the crappers out of me.....just where is he taking us all?

I sit with a group of Moms 3 days a week and we discuss the happenings of the world and all have commented on the fact that 'they fear for their children's futures more because of him than even the bird flu'!!!!

CaZ

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highlights from the annual bethel meeting...?

by in a new york bethel minute in

my mom came home with some wonderful experiences from the annual meeting at bethel, related by bethelites in her hall.

unfortunately she couldn't remember any of them... any details on this???.

bethel

caz

Whoops!!!! There's a difference? Sorry!!

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The person who brought you into the "lie"

by pratt1 in

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just wondering, is the person who studied with you still an active dub?.

in a poll with a few of my friends, all who studied with either us or our parents are now not considered dubs.

caz

The person responsible for introducing me to the the "truth" just recently killed himself, so I guess the answer is a resounding, NO!!!!!!!

" Oh listen to me and the truth will set you free".......Yeah right!!!!!!

CaZ

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highlights from the annual bethel meeting...?

by in a new york bethel minute in

my mom came home with some wonderful experiences from the annual meeting at bethel, related by bethelites in her hall.

unfortunately she couldn't remember any of them... any details on this???.

bethel

caz

When I was studying, I went to a couple of the 'big' meetings.

I would spend the whole day wondering where i could sneak off to, to have a smoke and the rest of it trying to stay awake!!!!

I was told by the people taking me to one huge meeting at ( believe it or not the largest 'racecourse' in NSW Australia.) that I would probably, especially enjoy the "drama"!

It was about a man who was trying desperately to feed and clothe his family on a meagre income so he took a 2nd job.

Their point being that: If you need to take a 2nd job that stops you from attending all of the meetings and doing your door knocking, then maybe you are living too richly and should humble your lifestyle!!! The man was trying to feed his god damned family for christs sake!!!!

I really didn't enjoy that 'drama'!!!!!!!!

What a crock !!!!!!!!

CaZ