Posts by caz

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I Love You Guys

by joelbear in

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man, i wish some of y'all lived closer.. i feel closer to y'all than i do to most of my friends or family for that matter.. you make me laugh like no one else can these days..

caz

Hey Tez, I'm originally from Bradford Yorkshire, are you anywhere around that area? Haven't been back in 30 years though!

PS: joing the huggin' 'n' a lovin' too!!!

CaZ

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Question regarding my nephew

by caz in

i'm the aunty of 3 the boys i wrote about a few weeks ago who had lost their jw father to suicide.

my (16 year old) nephew has come to live with me and he has been brought up as a jw all of his life, although not baptised yet.

he hasn't made one mention of them or meetings at all since his father's death, ( 4 weeks ago) other than to tell me he was very disappointed in the lack of support shown his dad by the elders of his congregation during his lowest moments of depression and to the boys since.

caz

Thankyou everyone,

You have all given me some good, sound advice for which I appreciate very much.

I like the idea of planning stuff to do on a meeting night and will be working on that suggestion.

I too believe that at the moment he is enjoying his time away from the association but I think they have him in the 'guilt grip' and he may well go back to it all if he feels too bad.

Yes he is dissolusioned with them but he has so many family on his late father's side that are jw's, including his elderly grand pop whom he looks up to, that I am sure before long, they will be hounding him to return.

Once again thankyou for the help .

CaZ

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Question regarding my nephew

by caz in

i'm the aunty of 3 the boys i wrote about a few weeks ago who had lost their jw father to suicide.

my (16 year old) nephew has come to live with me and he has been brought up as a jw all of his life, although not baptised yet.

he hasn't made one mention of them or meetings at all since his father's death, ( 4 weeks ago) other than to tell me he was very disappointed in the lack of support shown his dad by the elders of his congregation during his lowest moments of depression and to the boys since.

caz

I'm the aunty of 3 the boys i wrote about a few weeks ago who had lost their jw father to suicide.

My (16 year old) nephew has come to live with me and he has been brought up as a jw all of his life, although not baptised yet.

He hasn't made one mention of them or meetings at all since his father's death, ( 4 weeks ago) other than to tell me he was very disappointed in the lack of support shown his Dad by the elders of his congregation during his lowest moments of depression and to the boys since.

But tonite he told me he was going to the mid week meeting. Apparently his cousin was doing a talk and had called him to ask if he would like to attend and she would pick him up. He said that he would go but decided at the last moment not to, I didn't push as to why but i'm just wondering, what can i say to him if he does decide to start attending again?

His Uncle is an elder and has a lot of influence on the boys, I know he is just biding his time in getting his hooks back into them. He was very unhappy about my nephew coming to live with me, being a 'worldly person' but he hasn't actually offered a place for any of them at his home!

I would hate to see the jw's get to him, i know what a miserable life he will have if they do but, scriptually I do not know where to start in being able to convince him, ( if I need to) that the truth is in fact..... a lie!

Can anyone suggest some simple points that I could make? I myself know the basic beliefs after studying with them for several years and still have most of the books given me during that time, eg, The reasoning book, All scripture, Insight on the scriptures etc. Could I use these to show him the errors and lies?

I would appreciate any help and advice regarding this. Thanks.....CaZ

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witness couple buy wife and * i * a bottle of scotch... WTF?

by tetrapod.sapien in

one of my ex-best friends, and his wife, sent a card, from both of them, saying "happy aniversary" (whatever).

enclosed was a bottle of scotch.

in my friend's hand writting.

caz

Well I think that they must feel that they have failed in their efforts of filling you with 'The holy spirit'!!!

Maybe this is their next point of attack................fill you with the other kind of spirit.....The "Holy Shit, i shouldn't have drunk so much kind" !!!!

It all works the same, a mind numbing 2 hour meeting in the Kingdom hall, a 1 hour at home preaching session or a night on the liquid malt....your brain is mush by the end of any or all of them! Enjoy

CaZ

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A letter from Mr.Elder...

by Lilycurly in

okay, to give a bit of background....i have posted my da letter on this board awhile ago.

of course, sent it to a elder.

and i get a call weeks later telling me they were gonna announce my daing to the cong.

caz

I admire that you wrote back to him even though he made it pretty clear that what you had to say was dismissed by him.

When someone makes a stand such as this against the org' I wonder if it can do any good as they are so brainwashed in their beliefs but then I have a little look around these boards and see once again that alot of them are starting to lift the scales from their eyes and see the untruths. It is very encouraging!

I was never baptised but recently lost my bro' in law, ( a witness of 30 years) to suicide.

I have been pondering on what to write to the elders from his cong' regarding their lack of emotional, ( even spiritual) support to this man since learning of his Bi Polar condition.

I have no idea as to whether my letter would even be read?

But you have inspired me.

CaZ

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JWs show up at my dad's surgery.

by Darth Yhwh in

heres a little background: my mother is a jw, my father is not, my sister is disfellowshipped and i have faded away.. my father has an abdominal aortic aneurism.

this is a weak spot on the wall of the major artery leading to the lower extremities.

it will balloon out and burst eventually killing him without assistance.

caz

Hi there Darth,

I hope that your Dad continues to improve and I am sorry that your own Mum ignored you and your sister at a time when you needed to hold together. I know that would have really hurt!

When my Mum was dying, I remember the resentment that I felt every time my (then) jw sister and her hangers off attended the hosp' and nursing home that mum stayed in. My Mum wasn't a witness but they insisted on reading the 'Holy scriptures' to her every visit when all I wanted to do was to sit and hold her.

But after losing mum, they convinced me that i should study too because she was going to be "resurrected" and I would never see her again because the "end" would come during my lifetime and that would be that unless I was a jw.....yadda yadda yadda, you know the rest!!! Then whilst studying I had to undergo a major operation . It was an internaly performed surgery and the risk of a large bleed was quite high.

I was terrified about the op' but also because I had 7 children who needed their mum. So how did I let them convince me that I should opt' for NO BLOOD products should the need arise?

I was sitting there telling the aneasthesist that i was to have no blood ( with them standing right behind me), the surgeon was concerned and as was the aneasthesist as was i, my heart wasn't in what i was saying at all but I was surrounded by jw's and all the anti blood literature.

I was cajoled into it for sure, i was convinced that i would never see any of my family again in the new system if I didn't do it their way!!!

Thank the universe that nothing went wrong but I dread to think of how my children would have coped if it had......I really wasn't putting their well being 1st and I'm a good Mum......as i'm sure yours is.....they are very clever at making a woman put her children in 2nd place!

CaZ

Ps: I'm sure it's not an issue but if anyone is wondering why I always make my posts so large, it's not because i'm trying to be noticed!! lol!

It's because I have trouble reading the smaller print and I do it automatically.

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Benefits of being a Dub as a child

by pratt1 in

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i can't think of many benefits of growing up a a dub but i do remember that i always viewed the other dub kids as brorthers and sisters and they became my support system amongst the "worldly people".

i remember going into a new neighhood or a new school and knowing that once i met the dub kids there, i would automatically have friends and i would not be alone.. this was especially comforting to me because i was an only child, and many times i entered into a new school not knowing anyone and sometimes being the only black kid in the class, my dub peers made me feel welcome and accepted me into the circle immediately.. for many years i feel special to be part of this worldwide brotherhood, and i am sure it is the reason why now i am inafriad of changes and/or new surroundings.. did you have similar experiences?.

caz

I don't think that finding a bond is 'exclusive' to the jw's.

I know when I come in here and read a post put in by a fellow Aussie, I feel a bond and I have never even met them!

Think on this.

If one were to travel to the other side of their country and meet a stranger from their home town, they would chat with a common bond.

If one were to be in a foreign country, amongst a large group of people and meet a person from their own country, they would instantly share a bond.

And if it were possible and you were stranded on another planet and were to meet another 'Earthling', you would feel a connection!!!

I have not seen too many benefits for children brought up in the 'truth'.

One family I know, were very strict.

Every time i was at their house, the children were 'studying'.

These kids missed out on everything that makes being a kid fun. Then after all of the hard work by the parents and the children's own dedication; 1 son has ended up in jail for armed robbery, another son married out of the religion and D Ass'd himself and the daughter was an unmarried mother by the time she hit 19!! Although this is the worst case...... I have seen many children brought up this way only to get into trouble later and gosh when they find out the 'secrets' of the world, don't they jump in????

CaZ

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So how does one fade away, dont want to be disfellowshipped

by JoeGeneration in

so how does one fade away without moving?

consider that the elders know where you live.

will the following line work?

caz

Don't know what happened with my last post, put itself in before i finished it!

So once again...... From what I've seen, all you have to do to have them completely ignore your existence and let you get on with your own life is to tell them that you have been diognosed with severe depression bordering on bi polar disorder........that will pretty well guarantee that you never have to set eyes on them again!! But if you want the elders to stop visiting.....have a little attempt at suicide......they stay well away from you then!

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So how does one fade away, dont want to be disfellowshipped

by JoeGeneration in

so how does one fade away without moving?

consider that the elders know where you live.

will the following line work?

caz

From what I've seen, all you have to do to have them completely ignore your existence and let you get on with your own life is to tell them that you have been diognosed with severe depression bordering on bi polar disorder........tha

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Were the people I studied with just crack pots?

by caz in

i have been thinking about my late mother today, ( it would have been her b'day) and i am feeling a bit upset over the fact that i no longer have a beautiful old wooden table that she gave me before she passed away.

this piece of furniture was one of the first items that she bought when we emmigrated from the uk to aus' and she had bought it 2nd hand.

i loved that table but i got rid of it on the insistance of the 2 women i was studying with as they told me it had demons in it!

caz

What was it about the table that caused these JW's to make such a claim?

They were commenting on how lovely i kept it and they were wondering where I had got it from.

Because it was obviously an antique, I wonder now if they were thinking that it was 2nd hand all along and were just opening me up to this line of thinking?

I was living with an abusive man at the time and their idea was that the abuse might stop if the table went.......It didn't!

I'm having trouble believing all of these stories guys!!! ( I do though) but talking clothes? Demonised vegetable and the one to make me laugh...eating the pig later! Absurd teachings and beliefs hey?