in a recent thread about an nfl player being allowed to return to play after being convicted and serving time for a felony, it was suggested that maybe his ancestory played a part in his attitudes and actions.. those of you were playing along at home know the deal.... is it fair to lay blame on one's ancestors in how one acts in today's society?.
i think not.... my ancestor's came here from scotland, when their lands were taken from them back home.
they came here with nothing and had to start over in a land with next to nothing, eeking out an existance in the mountains of tn and nc, always struggling.
Those that stay mired in the bad past are doomed to bitterness and failure.
That's the crux of this whole thread, and half of the other thread. If you're mired in the past you're gonna see everything from that viewpoint. you simply have not moved on, and you can see no other reason why a certain black man might be a bad person.
in a recent thread about an nfl player being allowed to return to play after being convicted and serving time for a felony, it was suggested that maybe his ancestory played a part in his attitudes and actions.. those of you were playing along at home know the deal.... is it fair to lay blame on one's ancestors in how one acts in today's society?.
i think not.... my ancestor's came here from scotland, when their lands were taken from them back home.
they came here with nothing and had to start over in a land with next to nothing, eeking out an existance in the mountains of tn and nc, always struggling.
dominant racial groups automatically factor in allowances for themselves ...
Really??? How so?
democracy
I can tell this is going to be a long conversation.... Let's just call it a day.
yes lets - i've studied the subject in some depth
I'm sure you have.
in a recent thread about an nfl player being allowed to return to play after being convicted and serving time for a felony, it was suggested that maybe his ancestory played a part in his attitudes and actions.. those of you were playing along at home know the deal.... is it fair to lay blame on one's ancestors in how one acts in today's society?.
i think not.... my ancestor's came here from scotland, when their lands were taken from them back home.
they came here with nothing and had to start over in a land with next to nothing, eeking out an existance in the mountains of tn and nc, always struggling.
dominant racial groups automatically factor in allowances for themselves ...
Really??? How so?
democracy
I can tell this is going to be a long conversation.... Let's just call it a day.
in a recent thread about an nfl player being allowed to return to play after being convicted and serving time for a felony, it was suggested that maybe his ancestory played a part in his attitudes and actions.. those of you were playing along at home know the deal.... is it fair to lay blame on one's ancestors in how one acts in today's society?.
i think not.... my ancestor's came here from scotland, when their lands were taken from them back home.
they came here with nothing and had to start over in a land with next to nothing, eeking out an existance in the mountains of tn and nc, always struggling.
...all she is saying is that it needs to be factored in - dominant racial groups automatically factor in allowances for themselves whereas minority groups have to ask repeatedly for allowances to be made.Like Michael Vick asking allowance for dog fighting because his ancestor's were slaves?
UC, she's just gonna skirt the issue again. Digging a hole would be more productive.
in a recent thread about an nfl player being allowed to return to play after being convicted and serving time for a felony, it was suggested that maybe his ancestory played a part in his attitudes and actions.. those of you were playing along at home know the deal.... is it fair to lay blame on one's ancestors in how one acts in today's society?.
i think not.... my ancestor's came here from scotland, when their lands were taken from them back home.
they came here with nothing and had to start over in a land with next to nothing, eeking out an existance in the mountains of tn and nc, always struggling.
I'm simply trying to show how Vick may have been impacted by the legacy of slavery.
Wow! What a firestorm my statements set off!
Fake modesty won't gloss over your prejudicial comments on the other thread.
in a recent thread about an nfl player being allowed to return to play after being convicted and serving time for a felony, it was suggested that maybe his ancestory played a part in his attitudes and actions.. those of you were playing along at home know the deal.... is it fair to lay blame on one's ancestors in how one acts in today's society?.
i think not.... my ancestor's came here from scotland, when their lands were taken from them back home.
they came here with nothing and had to start over in a land with next to nothing, eeking out an existance in the mountains of tn and nc, always struggling.
dominant racial groups automatically factor in allowances for themselves ...
Really??? How so?
in a recent thread about an nfl player being allowed to return to play after being convicted and serving time for a felony, it was suggested that maybe his ancestory played a part in his attitudes and actions.. those of you were playing along at home know the deal.... is it fair to lay blame on one's ancestors in how one acts in today's society?.
i think not.... my ancestor's came here from scotland, when their lands were taken from them back home.
they came here with nothing and had to start over in a land with next to nothing, eeking out an existance in the mountains of tn and nc, always struggling.
And I'm not backing away from my assertions.
The asertion being, what was that again? And you gonna go with your version of it on this thread or what you said on the other thread?
in a recent thread about an nfl player being allowed to return to play after being convicted and serving time for a felony, it was suggested that maybe his ancestory played a part in his attitudes and actions.. those of you were playing along at home know the deal.... is it fair to lay blame on one's ancestors in how one acts in today's society?.
i think not.... my ancestor's came here from scotland, when their lands were taken from them back home.
they came here with nothing and had to start over in a land with next to nothing, eeking out an existance in the mountains of tn and nc, always struggling.
For the final time, I'm not holding Vick less guilty.
Well, ok then. Based on what you said, I could have sworn that's what you were saying. ;)
in a recent thread about an nfl player being allowed to return to play after being convicted and serving time for a felony, it was suggested that maybe his ancestory played a part in his attitudes and actions.. those of you were playing along at home know the deal.... is it fair to lay blame on one's ancestors in how one acts in today's society?.
i think not.... my ancestor's came here from scotland, when their lands were taken from them back home.
they came here with nothing and had to start over in a land with next to nothing, eeking out an existance in the mountains of tn and nc, always struggling.
A true story. Listen carefully.
In 1999, when I first started working here (police department), they brought in a Black guy who'd given them quite a chase. He was shackled, and when I heard the chains rattling, I became sick to my stomach and almost passed out.
My boss, a White man, wanted to call an ambulance, but I assured him that there was no need for that. I spent some time in the women's room until I could get my emotions under control. He later told me that I turned as white as a sheet.
Afterwards, he made a rule that no shackled prisoner was to come through our section. I didn't ask him to do it, he simply saw how much it distressed me and took it upon himself to spare me the sight.
Would I have had the same reaction if the prisoner had been White? I don't know. If my boss had been a Black man, would he have made a similar ruling? I don't know.
My reason for relating this? To show that I don't believe all Whites are racist, that some "get" it right off the bat, and that the pain felt by Blacks is real and needs to be acknowledged.
Very touching. Somehow that means that Vick should be given leniency for his abuse of animals?
I think the pain you feel is real. I think that desrves its own topic. However, I simply think you've misplaced that pain into issues where it doesn't belong--in holding someone less guilty simply because they're black.
in a recent thread about an nfl player being allowed to return to play after being convicted and serving time for a felony, it was suggested that maybe his ancestory played a part in his attitudes and actions.. those of you were playing along at home know the deal.... is it fair to lay blame on one's ancestors in how one acts in today's society?.
i think not.... my ancestor's came here from scotland, when their lands were taken from them back home.
they came here with nothing and had to start over in a land with next to nothing, eeking out an existance in the mountains of tn and nc, always struggling.
posting to see what beks said and while I'm at it didn't the player serve time for his felony?
Yes, he is still serving time, now at home under house arrest. I'm sure Snow would LOVE to make allegories about his ankle monitor and the chains of slavery. Just another case of white man keepin the black man down!
