they may discourage bu they dont FORCE us to leave sites....and because this is harm free and a site to chat with folk it clearly isnt apostate atall.
Not with my aposta-voodoo around.
daniel-p
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Sh*t. I got busted...
by cognac inat least it was by an apostate.
not sure if he's going to rat me out or not.
he wrote me an email saying, "is this who i think it is?
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daniel-p
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Sh*t. I got busted...
by cognac inat least it was by an apostate.
not sure if he's going to rat me out or not.
he wrote me an email saying, "is this who i think it is?
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daniel-p
this is proudly JW.net :) and there are many still serving and many who yes struggle but stlll attend meetings. Friends i have made on here and im thankful. If any who are df or apostate wish to come on here then thats up to them, they too are welcome to the Jehovahs witness.net site...
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Sh*t. I got busted...
by cognac inat least it was by an apostate.
not sure if he's going to rat me out or not.
he wrote me an email saying, "is this who i think it is?
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daniel-p
Yes i was told that many are hurt by being punished and they turn to Jw sites to be near the ones they have lost contact with. Also thats why they want to continue to know whats going on, not really because they hate the org or Jah but they are hurting and miss the association and out of hurt they respond negatively. It makes sense :) So its given me even MORE understanding.... afterall anyone that hated the org would be on an apostate site...with pure apostates.
Im glad Im here and that you guys are too :)) yay big hugs...xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
I'm as pure an apostate as you can get, I hate the BORG with every bone in my body, with every fiber of my soul. I worship Satan, have sworn alleigance to the agents of darkness, and use WT literature to wipe my ass. I eat the brains of pioneers. In addition, I've made voodoo dolls for all the JW apologists on this site with which I inflict various vague maladies that are often mistaken as chronic pain, depression, and mental cloudiness.
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Sh*t. I got busted...
by cognac inat least it was by an apostate.
not sure if he's going to rat me out or not.
he wrote me an email saying, "is this who i think it is?
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daniel-p
as i was saying...i was told many come onto JW sites professing to be apostates but they really just want to be near the truth and those who love Jah.
That makes a world of sense.
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Sh*t. I got busted...
by cognac inat least it was by an apostate.
not sure if he's going to rat me out or not.
he wrote me an email saying, "is this who i think it is?
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daniel-p
So wait, he sent an email to you? And how, by recieving this email, does this threaten your identity?
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The Simultaneous Corporatization of the WTS and Increased Sense of Entitlement of Members
by daniel-p inone of the ironies of corporatizing your business/operation is that in your search for effeciency and production, you sacrifice employee loyalty as they increasingly see themselves as dispensible parts of a machine where the whole is greater than the parts.. before, you were less efficient, but you had loyal workers and people who felt like they were a part of something that valued them.
now, they see the company as a means to get what they want, and a sense of entitlement and resentment takes the place of honor and loyalty.. the watchtower society has been rapidly corporatizing its structure, management style, and policies since the 90s, and especially in this decade.
i remember when i first went to bethel in 2000, and there were more than a few special bethel talks on how they didn't want to run the organization like a corporation, that they wanted it to be a family.
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daniel-p
Corporatism? You mean the 'worldly' tendency to refer to workers as "dead wood" ( as Bethel elders have). Let me tell you, the Watchtower Society doesn't rise to the level of most 'worldly' corporations ethics. Worldly companies are usually very careful not to make any claims that are fraudulent.
I agree with you--in general, the WTS uses its position as a "family" and "religious order" as a means to enforce rules that are far more damaging than a lot of corporate-world HR rules. They are inherently not subject to a lot of regulations that serve to protect worker's rights, but the more they resemble and act like a corporation, the more their members (first Bethelites, then rank and file) come to expect those same rights.
So my point is, they shoot themselves in the foot while they corporatize operations, policy, and even doctrine.
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The Simultaneous Corporatization of the WTS and Increased Sense of Entitlement of Members
by daniel-p inone of the ironies of corporatizing your business/operation is that in your search for effeciency and production, you sacrifice employee loyalty as they increasingly see themselves as dispensible parts of a machine where the whole is greater than the parts.. before, you were less efficient, but you had loyal workers and people who felt like they were a part of something that valued them.
now, they see the company as a means to get what they want, and a sense of entitlement and resentment takes the place of honor and loyalty.. the watchtower society has been rapidly corporatizing its structure, management style, and policies since the 90s, and especially in this decade.
i remember when i first went to bethel in 2000, and there were more than a few special bethel talks on how they didn't want to run the organization like a corporation, that they wanted it to be a family.
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daniel-p
One of the ironies of corporatizing your business/operation is that in your search for effeciency and production, you sacrifice employee loyalty as they increasingly see themselves as dispensible parts of a machine where the whole is greater than the parts.
Before, you were less efficient, but you had loyal workers and people who felt like they were a part of something that valued them. Now, they see the company as a means to get what they want, and a sense of entitlement and resentment takes the place of honor and loyalty.
The Watchtower Society has been rapidly corporatizing its structure, management style, and policies since the 90s, and especially in this decade. I remember when I first went to Bethel in 2000, and there were more than a few special Bethel talks on how they didn't want to run the organization like a corporation, that they wanted it to be a family. They said this out of one side of their mouth, while giving a completely different impression in other areas, chiefly with the flock on the outside (there is a huge rift between JW Bethelites and average JWs, with the former often viewing the latter as a sort of weak, materialistic, lower class of worshippers).
I think one reason they were still giving these kinds of talks was that a substantial contingent of middle management (Bethel heavies, bethel elders, etc.) saw how the Legal Department was influencing policy and realized it was in an unscriptural and unloving direction. They wanted it to not be true. But they were swimming against the tide.
But as the corporatization continues, the rank and file increaingly view themselves as employees, or at least people with RIGHTS who should stand up for themselves. This is inevitable, I think, where the letter of the law takes precedence in a white-washed organization.Eventually, I think, more JWs will be critical of leadership. Think of how much council there is about not being critical of the Governing Body or the elders. This is because a lot of people ARE critical, and it's becmong a growing problem.
I wonder why?
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1980's
by asilentone indo you think people are smarter today than people living in the 1980's?
sometimes i wish there was internet back in the 80's.
if there was no internet today, i would probably be attending the kingdom hall again regularly, probably reaching out to be ms again then eventually become an elder sometime down the road.
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daniel-p
What's better about showing one's butt, bare obese muffin top, and underwear in public?
...you have a point.
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1980's
by asilentone indo you think people are smarter today than people living in the 1980's?
sometimes i wish there was internet back in the 80's.
if there was no internet today, i would probably be attending the kingdom hall again regularly, probably reaching out to be ms again then eventually become an elder sometime down the road.
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daniel-p
It's better than gem-studded sweaters.
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1980's
by asilentone indo you think people are smarter today than people living in the 1980's?
sometimes i wish there was internet back in the 80's.
if there was no internet today, i would probably be attending the kingdom hall again regularly, probably reaching out to be ms again then eventually become an elder sometime down the road.
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daniel-p
I mean, no way people to day are smarter, but pepole today do dress better.