Posts by daniel-p

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Too Much Coffee

by daniel-p in

i think i drank too much coffee.

it feels like my heart wants to bounce out of my chest.

is that good?

daniel-p

I keep seeing David Lynch in random advertisements and commercials. See the Phillips advert near the top-right of this page? Doesn't that look like David Lynch?

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Too Much Coffee

by daniel-p in

i think i drank too much coffee.

it feels like my heart wants to bounce out of my chest.

is that good?

daniel-p

Americanos? Isn't that just espresso with water? What's the point?

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Too Much Coffee

by daniel-p in

i think i drank too much coffee.

it feels like my heart wants to bounce out of my chest.

is that good?

daniel-p

I think I drank too much coffee. It feels like my heart wants to bounce out of my chest. Is that good? How much coffee do you drink?

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Meeting experience

by gutted in

this weeks service meeting was typical.. "where were you?

" "i'm concerned about you".

then the typical song and dance of the parts/talks, all recycled notions of doing better in the service.

daniel-p

I'll have to bring one of these... if I can't go to the restroom, you think they'd mind if I toss one of these on the stage from behind the curtain?

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Audio version of 2010 convention talks

by Bob1234 in

does anybody know where talks have been posted for this convention yet?

particularly interested in friday afternoon symposium?

thanks.

i borrow the phrase gb 2.0 from alltimejeff, who used it yesterday in the post about theodore jaracz's death.. i was interested in starting a thread that addresses the new leadership regime that has emerged within the wts, especially in light of changes (albeit mundane) the organization has undertaken over the past 15 years or so.

while few of us have had close contact with the men in charge, changes they have made in recent years surly reflect a definable leadership style.

it also reveals a little bit about how they view the organization and its future.. from what i can put together, it seems that there a few obvious things to note.. - 1999 seems to be the sea change year in terms of gb appointment and might be seen sybolically as a turning point in terms of leadership for the group.

daniel-p

I do find it interesting that the Governing Body established in the 1970s waited until the mid 1990s before it started to appoint new members. In fact, it may be worth noting that new Governing Body members began to be appointed only after the generation doctrine began to be dismantled. It seems as though GB 1.0 was holding out all those years, actually believing that a new era of leadership was not going to be necessary. Then comes the 1990s, the generation doctrine is gone, and new members to the body begin to be appointed.

Somewhere else on JWD someone was speculating that they dismantled the generation doctrine, not just to extend the life of the end times dogma, but to allow a younger generation of GB members into their ranks.

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Governing Body 2.0

by drew sagan in

i borrow the phrase gb 2.0 from alltimejeff, who used it yesterday in the post about theodore jaracz's death.. i was interested in starting a thread that addresses the new leadership regime that has emerged within the wts, especially in light of changes (albeit mundane) the organization has undertaken over the past 15 years or so.

while few of us have had close contact with the men in charge, changes they have made in recent years surly reflect a definable leadership style.

it also reveals a little bit about how they view the organization and its future.. from what i can put together, it seems that there a few obvious things to note.. - 1999 seems to be the sea change year in terms of gb appointment and might be seen sybolically as a turning point in terms of leadership for the group.

daniel-p

neverendingjounrey, you bring up an interesting piont. The new GB members don't bother with trying to get closer and closer to truth. They don't bother with it, at least not seriously, but every once in a while they unveal some superficial change that makes it look like they're "doing their job." Having someone like Fred Franz makes the upper echelons look that much closer to the "actual" heavenly organization, so they have to make it seem like this is still a facet of thir leadership. Of course, they suck at doing so, and any serious scholar can see through their feeble attempts at refining doctrine.

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What Hinders the Governing Body From Learning From Their Mistakes? Could Delusions Of Being Jehovah's Chosen Ones be to Blame?

by frankiespeakin in

we all suffer delusions but some are worse than others, and if the governing body's delusions of believing they are spoke person for jehovah are deep then they can not learn from their mistakes,, at least not when true honesty is involved.

this delusion will color things so heavily and cause them to play loose with the truth even to their own selves that learning from mistakes is out of the question for them,, i think this pathetic double get more generation time new light,, kind of gives you an idea that they ain't all right up stairs so it looks like we will be able watch them go from one blunder to another as they seem to be on auto pilot because of this delusion they have...

daniel-p

Power corrupts.

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Do Bethelites and Governing body members live longer due to less work/life stress and not having kids?

by Witness 007 in

some bethelites and governing body members are amazingly well "preserved" for their age.

so if you had no mortgage, no kids to worry about, didn't have a stressful job with bills to balance....does bethel extend lifespans?.

daniel-p

Bethel is NOT stress free. It is a most hectic existence, and for those higher up, there is a lot of politics to deal with. I couldn't imagine the level of stress at the GB level.

There are sick people at Bethel, chronic illnesses, depression, cancer, etc, so I don't think being at Bethel necessarily enhances your lifespan. However, that perception could be from the fact that the old timers are able to get comfortably old because they have great health coverage and assisted living facilities (e.g. the "D-Res" at Wallkill) in a perceived spiritually nurturing environment, and there are a lack of younger sick people simply because Bethel doesn't take them or finds a way to get rid of them. If you grow old and are able to go about your work and life productively, you can last a long time at Bethel. But if you start breaking down, Bethel will most likely look to divest itself of you, and send you out into the world, unless you've spent 25+ years there and they wouldn't be able to get rid of you without looking really bad.

[What I say is from experience as a Bethelite, not just off-the-cuff speculation like some comments above.]

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Who Are Your Past Circuit Overseers? It's a small world..

by mentallyfree31 in

who were your past circuit overseers?

i'm sure a lot of us actually know mutual people, as the co's relocate all over the country.. here's a few from the southeast us: (let me know if you recognize any names and post yours too please...).

ellwood johnson (new york/philadelphia area for several years also).

daniel-p

Michaelson

Palfi

Billy Ray Something