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A call from family - Armageddon this month!

by kaik in

i very seldom receive a call from my jw siblings, i mean seldom.

i can count them on my hand in past 10 years.

while we talk about mom a lot and i am in touch with her, i was very surprised when i received this call.

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So I guess the great tribulation is either going to be extremely short or bypasses, Jehovah has grown impatient and decided not to wait for the "cry" for peace and security so he is going to put it in the UN leaders hearts to turn on religion.

Now I have a problem with the latter, actually, it's more of a dilemma. If Jehovah is going to put it into the hearts of the UN leaders , Wouldn't there have been the best opportunity just last week when every single world leader congregated to listen to the pope? It's October, JW's love October!

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Can the special pioneers, bethelites, and many other "servants", who are getting their benefits stripped, SUE THE WTBS?

by Dunedain in

i know in america, corporations, and businesses, are many times obligated to atleast continue certain medical benefits for an extended period of time, like a year or two, even after they are "let go".

i wonder how many older, special pioneers, missionarys, bethelites, and such, have pre-existing medical conditions, and need to have to continue their benefits for care?.

the wts, can send a letter saying " sorry your shits gone in 3 months", but is this really legal?

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The simple answer is no. special pioneers have to agree to sign a form to live a life of poverty!

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/106721/bethel-vow-poverty-documents-scanned?page=1&size=20

What i do find very sinister is who they now work for. RELIGIOUS ORDER
OF JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES!

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America Mass Shooting: 10/1/2015

by adjusted knowledge in

jw
friends

since this will be the norm in america, perhaps we should put a date on each of these topics.

can't really put school mass shooting because too many to choose from.

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13 dead so far. MY heart goes out to the families. Without trying to be heartless, can someone please tell me why there has been a spike in shootings of recent? It's like so many people are pissed off so they take their angst out on innocent people!

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The Org's Chariot Rolls On - Over the Top of People!

by The Searcher in

information just received from a reliable source.. here is an example of how the org's "expansion" is being carried out in 3 continents: .

japan - special pioneers under age 50 are being told they will now only be regular pioneers.barcelona spain - the regional translation (catalan) office is being closed.mexico - special pioneers being told they will only be regular pioneers - no age specified on this one.. the scene of the org's world is changing - rapidly!.

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Someone said the special pioneers get paid. Probably the same amount bethelites do, so as watchtower is a business, it makes sense to demote special pioneers to regular pioneers that way the watchtower no longer have to "pay" them.

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Cedars leaked letter requested to be taken down by WTBTS

by umbertoecho in

i don't know if this is already posted so sorry people if it is.

cedars site has had a request to take down the leaked letter regarding changes to the theocratic ministry school and other issues.. the reason given by wt is that it is a "copyright" issue.

of course this validates the letters authenticity even more.. have a good day or night people.

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Lloyd could easily counter the DMCA if he should wish to. He is not as broke as everyone thinks he is!

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The Elders of the congregations make for the worst possible "shepards".

by Dunedain in

the main goal of a shepard, is to keep the flock as safe as possible.

the loss of just a single sheep, could be devastating to a flock, and a shepards financial well being.

every sheep is valuable, from a monetary stanpoint, and future strength of the flock.

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@Dunedain, that is why they are instructed to call the legal department ;)

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The Elders of the congregations make for the worst possible "shepards".

by Dunedain in

the main goal of a shepard, is to keep the flock as safe as possible.

the loss of just a single sheep, could be devastating to a flock, and a shepards financial well being.

every sheep is valuable, from a monetary stanpoint, and future strength of the flock.

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It's just fluff the watchtower spew out. The real reason elders are there is to safeguard the org from any litigation, Unpaid, unqualified lawyers if you will. I had a "shepherding visit" one time and this elder told me that not only do they look after the welfare of the congregation, also they have to protect against lawsuits. At the time, I shrugged that comment off thinking that cannot happen often, not in gods clean organisation! Now, that is a comment that actually sticks with me because it does reflect the role they have in the congregation.

There are some who become elders blindly thinking he wants to help the flock, more often than not this type of person usually steps down due to disillusionment.Then there is the power crazy person who relishes lording it over the flock. These are the ones that never step down and more than likely the kind of elder you are describing.

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Latest Leaked BOE letter to Elders Oct. 4th

by Watchtower-Free in

october 4, 2015. to all congregations.

re: new provisions announced atannual meeting.

dear brothers:.

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How can the watchtower issue a DMCA takedown on a letter that is not even copyrighted? Also by using fair usage when not for profit.... Oh wait

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Theocratic Ministry School . . . is still there AND longer?

by warehouse in

so i made a timeline based on the leaked letter, it is as follows:.

edit: updated chart with color, because the html version was crap.

so i know i might be crazy, but is the theocratic school still there, just called apply yourself to field ministry?

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They started dumbing down the bible reading a couple of years back. The watchtower cannot have the rank and file read straight from the bible. After all, it would only take six months or so to go into complete darkness again. Only jeeeeehovahorg can really teach what the bible means! I jest...

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Lightbulb Moment ------> Two Witness Rule

by 4thgen in

the jw's always say that there must be "two witnesses before a matter is firmly established".

if that is the case, then why is the account of moses and the 10 commandments or jesus in the wilderness talking to satan taken as fact?

moses and jesus were both by themselves in the wilderness.

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The two witness rule is purely a control tactic used by the org to deture from litigation. There are many cases I've personally observed where one persons hearsay can land another in trouble without two Witnesses. The pioneers were very good at tittle tattle, all they had to do is go to an elder and before you know it your in the back room!

Of course, the rank and file who try to keep their heads down but have no "privileges" were usually the favourite target!