It occurred to me that this might be the long-term plan. No paper at all.
But surely the end of the world will be upon us before the demise of printed paper literature?
wow.
i was surprised this week by calls from active jws complaining about the new magazine format, and more begging for money from the platform.. frankly i was surprized by this reaction since this is old news to jwn members.
i guess actually shuffling to the bookroom and grabbing the new "awake tracts" minus the inside cover forward ...awakened many sleepy, catatonic, bored jws who never read the things or go on the internet anyway.. any feedback from other areas?.
It occurred to me that this might be the long-term plan. No paper at all.
But surely the end of the world will be upon us before the demise of printed paper literature?
consider the implication of being a created human as opposed to an evolved human.. the nature a created human has is given due to intentionality.
the creator wills that nature upon the creature.. .
what escape from nature is there?.
Well, actually (to my thinking) "free will" does not really have any connection per se to right versus wrong.
To me, it just means that a human could theoretically make a decision that is completely free from the influence of inherited behavior or the learning experiences gained from his prior environment.
In that sense of the term, I highly doubt that free will is really possible for a human in ANY circumstance.
in life, we experience all types of extremes.. when we were witnesses, we might have been either a liberal, conservative or moderate witness.. some people are more tolerant than others.
some are more exacting.
some have very strong opinions.
Adopted Cat says we should all swish on over to Namby Pamby land...
consider the implication of being a created human as opposed to an evolved human.. the nature a created human has is given due to intentionality.
the creator wills that nature upon the creature.. .
what escape from nature is there?.
Psac, Terry - surely you are not saying that self-awareness equates to free will?
Ferraris AND Guns!
Freeze - Miami Vice!
this is an expensive bed.
i've slept on it twice and have gotten sick!
eyes begin to water, i have difficulty breathing.
Maybe you can get your money back...was there a satisfaction guarantee?
Ferrari.
the other day i found a red plastic bag hanging on the knob of our exterior door.
it contained a calendar with beautiful landscape scenes and scriptures for every month of the year.
i'm not a bible believer, but i hung up the calendar because of the pretty pictures.
I remember they used to have calendars, but as I recall it was only one picture and tear-away simple printed monthly sheets.
consider the implication of being a created human as opposed to an evolved human.. the nature a created human has is given due to intentionality.
the creator wills that nature upon the creature.. .
what escape from nature is there?.
I just posted on the Einstein thread that this is a b4tter place to debate this issue than on it...it is about Einstein's approach to religion.
One thing to consider about Terry's point is the notion of free will: I say evolved naturalists argue against the truest sense of free will; in the sense that all decisions are greatly influenced by evolution (instinct) and personal experience (interaction with others of the species).
The point being this - does a bacterium have free will? Does a roundworm? A mole?
At what point up the evolutionary scale does "free will" begin and instinctive behavior fall off?
At what point could one say that all human instinctive behaviors have been left behind and free will has taken their place?
As a second thought - is the imagination of a god-system truly an act of human free will, or is that itself an instinctive or learned behavior for our species?
ok, here is a small first step toward putting together a thread on this subject.
the problem i had in getting started was how complicated the topic is - how to get it into an understandable form suitable for a discussion thread.
first - einstein was, of course, jewish.
Why not both created AND evolved?
Many have asked this, but it is a topic better taken up on a thread like Terry's new one - Evolved or Created Humans of this morning.
Einstein, from my understanding, would have said man is both created (by the impersonal cosmic creation) and evolved (by natural processes over millions of years).
None of this, however, goes to the central point of this thread: Does true human "free will" exist? (which Einstein denies)