I sorry, but to me this is nothing more than PR and spin control from Brooklyn. They are doing this to redeem themselves in the eyes of the public nothing more.
Anton
yesterday jehovahs witnesses and the hospital liason committee visited our hospital to donate a blood cell saver machine which had been funded by the local congregations in our county of kent in england.
a buffet lunch was provided, along with 4 talks to a large audience of surgical and medical consultants, anaetheologists, paedatricians, and obstetraticians (sp!
) about the future of blood and the transfusion of such products.
I sorry, but to me this is nothing more than PR and spin control from Brooklyn. They are doing this to redeem themselves in the eyes of the public nothing more.
Anton
the deeper you look into, clearer picture is emerging that god had not any input in these writings at all.
there are many verses, even whole passages which exist in some editions and in some they do not.. he evidently didn't supervised writers or copyists and we have plenty of evidences of that, his name in nt included.. since gospels of peter or thomas are not regarded as valuable and important documentations of jesus' life, only one conclusion comes to my mind.. as a moral guide the bible is an excellent book, written by... men!.
highly recommended!.
Here is sompething I came across a while back while I was researching the origins of the Bible.
WARNING:This may make some fundies red in the face.
Anton
it looks like we might really be going to war (they voted against us) iraq is getting an antidote for nerve gas (sounds like they are preparing) i fear that israel will drop a bomb on them.if this happens all hell will break loose.
does anyone know if they will start drafting?
Not gonna be a draft. Too many gung-ho types with excess testosterone to burn. Or as my old buddy SFC Thibidoux Green of the 5th Infantry Divisinon, Fort Polk Louisiana used to say:
Yea, though I walk through the valley
Of the shadow of death,
I will fear no evil, for I am the baddest Mo**** Fu**** in the Valley,
My M16 and My Bayonet, they comfort me;
Thou layeth the rabble before me
In the presence of mine enemies;Mine erection leadeth me on,
So that I may Squeezeth thine eyeballs from thine head
And Skull Fu**eth thee to death.
I think he and some of my old buds may just send Saddam to his 70 virgin reward
Anton ... who wishes he wasn't too old and fat for his BDU's
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http://profiles.yahoo.com/akafocus
edited by - spannerintheworks on 12 november 2002 9:42:4.
Anton
a friend of mine recommended i peruse this forum because he is of the impression i would find it rewarding.
the basis of his recommendation was due to a very long friendship and not due to any association (that i do not have) with jehovahs witnesses.
he considers me his superior in intellect and wants an appraisal of this sight but to be honest i have neither the incliniation nor the time to get in deep enough to comment.
Is this your friend?????
Anton
the other night i was upset and decided to pray to god.
i was outside looking at the stars and wondering if i was talking to myself or if he is really out there somewhere.. as i prayed i didnt know who to address, i have said jehovah, jesus, father, who ever is out there please hear me.
i don' t mean to be disrespectful in saying it that way , but just confused.. many of you know we havent been to a meeting in over a year .
Here is an interesting question ... what do you think ants call humans when they pray to them?
edited to add:
I'm pretty sure my cat thinks I'm a god too, at least until he can figure out how to work the can opener himself.
Anton
Edited by - coolbreeze on 11 November 2002 15:6:10
a friend of mine recommended i peruse this forum because he is of the impression i would find it rewarding.
the basis of his recommendation was due to a very long friendship and not due to any association (that i do not have) with jehovahs witnesses.
he considers me his superior in intellect and wants an appraisal of this sight but to be honest i have neither the incliniation nor the time to get in deep enough to comment.
I have read all your posts so far Tis and I just have one thought ... if you are your friends intellectual superior he must be a blithering idiot. As far as I'm concerned the only "cornerstone" here is Simon who so gratiously puts up with all of our silliness. Posters can come and go without really affecting the direction of this board. If your friend really told you that he is a cornerstone on this forum current direction, I suspect he suffers from a badly overcompensated infiriority complex. This would also explain why he feels you are his intellectual superior
.The following are my observations thus far on the value of your post on a scale of 1-10:
Information =0
Entertainment = 3
Troll (somone who deliberately seeks to bring negative attention to themself) = 10
Anton
it may not be the main problem or the only problem and i do agree that this needs to be treated as a criminal issue, but let me give you a very good example of why it is important for a problem like this to also be taken care of congergationally.. my father in law dan fitzwater sr has now been taken care of criminally.
( no thanks to the wts) he is in prison for child molestation.
he has been abusing children for a very long time, but he is only serving a short time in prison.
plmkrzy,
You said what I wanted to so much better.
I apologize for going on a bit of a rant earlier, but I get my hackles up when somone insinuates that unless others agree with their viewpont they must be of a lesser intelligence. I had enough of of that from my JW relatives.
SLOAN
It was not your opinion that caused my reaction, but the way in which it was stated. You sated your opinion, and challenged the intelligence of anyone that did not agree ... bad form. Thank you for your clarification and retraction.
As I said plmkrzy made my point much more eliquenly that I could have, and that is that crimes such as rape, molestation, murder and others of such magnitude are a matter for the police to sort out NOT the congregation or untrained befuddled elders who's only concerns seem to be to keep the IMAGE of the organization clean, not the organization itself.
Anton
Edited by - coolbreeze on 11 November 2002 1:56:1
it may not be the main problem or the only problem and i do agree that this needs to be treated as a criminal issue, but let me give you a very good example of why it is important for a problem like this to also be taken care of congergationally.. my father in law dan fitzwater sr has now been taken care of criminally.
( no thanks to the wts) he is in prison for child molestation.
he has been abusing children for a very long time, but he is only serving a short time in prison.
IT IS ONE OF THE MAIN PROBLEMS!!!!!!! How can any intelligent person argue otherwise
Ok, I guess I must be stupid then.
I don't recall the Catholics having a two witness rule, but I do believe they have a bit of a problem in the same area. Some people seem not to undersatnd that those decrepid old dust farting reptiles in Brooklyn and their cronies are directly responsible for this travesty. If the two witness rule were done away with, do you realy think they would hesitate to twist another bit of scripture so suit their needs?
Their only desire is to shield themselves and their evil corrupt organization from public reproach, and they will use any means possible. The two witness rule is but ONE effective means of doing so, and others would be found to replace it if it were gotten rid of.
Until the vile reptiles, their minions, and their organization are done away with the only recourse is to report crime to the police not the elders.
In my opinion, if there is ONE rule or teaching that is the root of this evil it would be the admonition to "Keep from bringing reproach upon Jehovah's Visible Organization".
What planet are they from; HELLO!!!
I'm from the third rock from the sun, where people are allowed to hold all sorts of opinions of their OWN.
But hey, that's just my non-intelligent ignorant opinion which on this public forum we are ALL entitled to.
Anton
Edited by - coolbreeze on 9 November 2002 20:37:44
Mine is 167, and it doesn't mean diddly.
Anton