can anyone help me find the link to the wt 2005 cd, i've been reliably informed it's on the site somewhere for download,
i asked my little brother and he got all interested and asked which article i wanted to look at and he could bring round the files if i wanted..lol
didn't like to tell him somehow my 2005 wts ended up in a garden bonfire, not sure how they got there!!!!
Actually I was sober (I think!) But I have to confess the whole burning thing was quite cathartic. I burned all my old books etc, and even my almost new copy of the ministry school guidebook, how naughty!!!! Watching them go up in flames was like taking a huge lungful of fresh air
Then I coughed, choked, realised I'd actually breathed in a lungful of WT burning smoke and went and got a drink of water!
Poppy
can anyone help me find the link to the wt 2005 cd, i've been reliably informed it's on the site somewhere for download,
i asked my little brother and he got all interested and asked which article i wanted to look at and he could bring round the files if i wanted..lol
didn't like to tell him somehow my 2005 wts ended up in a garden bonfire, not sure how they got there!!!!
so, i went to the memorial last night.
geez, it must have been "welcome home, undercover" night at the kh.
people were lining up to speak to me.
Well undercover, sounds like another good memorial for you!
I followed your advice, went in head held high and I could almost see the confusion on some peoples faces.
One sister came up to me and held my arm and said "you look great, but I wonder, how are you REALLY"
so I just smiled and said I was REALLY feeling great, and it was good to see everybody.
Felt weird and yet so at home to be back, almost like settling back in with an old lover because it feels so familiar even when you know it's over. I can see why people hang on to it. But I'm not one of them!
Poppy x
can anyone help me find the link to the wt 2005 cd, i've been reliably informed it's on the site somewhere for download,
i asked my little brother and he got all interested and asked which article i wanted to look at and he could bring round the files if i wanted..lol
didn't like to tell him somehow my 2005 wts ended up in a garden bonfire, not sure how they got there!!!!
Can anyone help me find the link to the WT 2005 CD, I've been reliably informed it's on the site somewhere for download, I asked my little brother and he got all interested and asked which article I wanted to look at and he could bring round the files if I wanted..lol Didn't like to tell him somehow my 2005 Wts ended up in a garden bonfire, not sure how they got there!!!! Must stop drinking. Poppy x
i've been thinking of how all of our lives have changed from learning about this religion and getting out.
probably no one has done more to help us understand the truth about "the truth" than raymond franz.
of course there were others that questioned dates, prophecies and dogma but it was ray franz that revolutionized the organization.
Personally COC was the first 'apostate' literature I ever read, and the fact it was clearly written by someone who had such love for the bible and even for the organisation helped me a great deal.
First time I read it, i couldn't actually believe a lot of it! I read it again recently and it helped me even more. Especially the points on the GB and their interference in the sex lives of individuals and how many were DFed but never apologised to when the doctrine was later revised!! The part on malawi was at first hard to believe, I remember as a child praying for the brothers there it was so bad. Now I feel very sad for all those that lost their lives.
Thank you Ray, i wont say without the book I wouldn't have escaped, but it helped me free myself a lot quicker!
Poppy
i've noticed on many memorial nights that the sisters will dress up like they're going to the oscars.
some seriously look like they're going to a prom.. do they dress for jesus or the friends to impress each other?.
what is it about memorial night?
I'm wondering if this is a US phenomenon? Here in the UK people certainly put on their very smart clothes, but it's generally quite sober, a lot of black and navy blue etc. And I've never seen anyone in a long dress or a hat at a memorial!
The flowers are really over the top though! Wonder what visitors think sometimes.
click here to download the memorial talk ouline.
also included is a special accounment that will be read at the end of the memorial talk.
march 21, 2006 .
I've just come back, and that announcement was bigged up! It was like ooooh, a special announcement direct from the society, drum roll please.. silence... Then exactly the same crap they say every year.
Interestingly though, not that many in attendance, just the same old tired relatives and faded ones that are always there.
i'm pretty sure it wasn't a personal thing, just that they needed more publishers to start the "new" congregation, but about a year ago i got tapped to move from one congo to another.
i also suspect that they were planning on soliciting loans from wealthier brothers (like me) to finance the hall construction.. a little background; i had been active and happy for almost two years in a congo about 20-30 minutes to the east of my home and had set up work and appointments for myself and family to take advantage of the fact that i would be in that particular neighborhood on those days and nights.
the usual like doctors, schools, day-care etc.
My younger brother is always getting moved, and it annoys the hell out of me, because he lives at home with my mum who is disabled and cant get to the meetings alone, so they are assigned to different book studies because he is a min servant and needs to take one!!! Brotherly love in action.
ugh... yesterday (saturday) we did spring cleaning, in the rain!!!
we were outside for about 3 hours in the freezing rain, raking leaves and spreading mulch.
just so we could look good for the memorial... we weren't even allowed to go inside to warm up because the had already cleaned everything and we were soaked.
When I used to host a group study at my house, I decided that as I spent a good hour a week preparing the house for that I could skip the hall cleaning.
I was 'counselled' by the group study conductor about my consistent not turning up! So I asked him if all the group would come and help me clean on a Thursday night, or maybe they could find another location for the group as I could not fit it all in.
Surprisingly it was never mentioned after that!
i met someone earlier this week whose ex-spouse is a jw - part of a fairly prominent jw family in this area.
although never baptized, this person studied and went to meetings for about 4 years.
this person even disclosed that they had progressed to the point of being an unbaptized publisher.
Slight change of subject, but still on the numbers.. at the memorial tonight I attended a cong that was part of one I used to go to. That is we had 4 congs, and they amalgamated them into 3, so one memorial, at a reasonable early time, about a third more publishers than used to be in the cong and the attendance was...
124.
Which actually was pretty bad even by the old congs standards. Guess things are slipping. Nobody had to stand up etc. One sister even commented to me that she thought there would be more people. I had to bite my tongue or this fade is not going to be succesful!