If you download the Watchtower Library 2004 CD-ROM from:
and burn it to a blank CD-ROM you can read all the KMs from 1970 to 2004.
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Kingdom Ministry issues
by kristyann inokay, i am not sure about this, even though it's probably pretty obvious to everyone, but what exactly is the kingdom ministry magazine?
it's something that is available only to active jws, right?
i know that they don't go around handing it out like they do with the watchtower and awake!
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Book - "A People for His Name" by Timothy White
by VM44 in.
"a people for his name" by timothy white is an early, but still excellent, book about the history of the jws.. here is a page containing portions from the book.
http://members.fortunecity.com/peopleforhisname/peopleforhisname.htm.
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My understanding is Timothy White was a psuedonym for Anthony Wills. He went by Tony Wills and was originally from a British Commonwealth country...perhaps it was New Zealand or Australia...I can't remember now. Apparently there was a chain of stores called "Timothy White" in the country of his birth and he used that since it matched up to T.W. [Tony Wills]. I was told he lived in the Bend, Oregon area and taught English at Central Oregon Community College there. There was a listing for his name in directory assistance a few years back but I can't seem to find any trace of a listing now. I don't know if he is still living and my understanding is Mr. Wills had no heirs. I was told a few years after writing the book he was disfellowshipped over the blood issue. Apparently, some news story was published regarding a JW refusing blood who was in a precarious situation and lived nearby. Wills contacted them and gave them some historical background on the development of the blood ban and this information was turned over to the elders and led to his disfellowshipping. I have no idea what happened to the JW involved--if he survived or not.
Back in the 80's I gave a photocopy of the book to Commentary Press and they expressed an interest in re-publishing it. I never followed through to see what their final decision was but, apparently for whatever reason, they decided not to re-publish it.
The book is readily available through inter-library loan. I just got a copy of it yesterday. It really deserves a wider readership.
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The Divine Termination of the Marital Arrangement - I need an old timer
by Bonnie_Clyde ini talked about this on gophers post about you cannot live forever on paradise earth, but thought i would start a separate one as i need an old timer who can remember attending a witness wedding in the 1950s.
gopher asked
: what happens if the earth (in such a paradise) reaches the point of overpopulation, meaning there are not enough food and other resources available for continued growth?
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From the June 15, 1952 Watchtower, page 362:
ESTABLISHED
PROCEDURE TO BE FOLLOWED AT WEDDINGAt the time appointed, the persons to be married, having been qualified according to the law of the state and the standards of the Lord, should assemble together, facing the minister; the man at the minister’s left hand and the woman at his right hand. A friendly and intimate appropriate speech is given, directed primarily to the two to be married, outlining the proper Scriptural obligations each one assumes toward the other and toward their God in accepting the responsibility of wedlock. Material such as that contained in the first 19 paragraphs of this article is appropriate. After this, the bride, the bridegroom and the two witnesses should stand together before the minister.
The minister will then say to the man, using his Christian or given name:
"Do you, ________, in the presence of Jehovah God and these witnesses, take ________ to be your wedded wife, to love and to cherish, in accordance with the divine law as outlined in the Holy Scriptures for Christian husbands, for as long as you both may live?"
The man should then answer: "I do."
The minister will then say to the woman, using her Christian name:
"Do you, ________, in the presence of Jehovah God and these witnesses, take ________ to be your wedded husband, to love and to cherish and deeply respect, in accordance with the divine law as outlined in the Holy Scriptures for Christian wives for as long as you both may live?"
The woman should answer: "I do."
[If arrangements are to give the woman in marriage by her father or someone else, the minister will say: "Who gives this woman to be married to this man?" The father or whoever gives her in marriage will say: "I do." Then he will withdraw and take his seat in the audience. If no arrangements are made to give the woman in marriage, this can be dispensed with.]
The minister will then ask the man to repeat after him:
"I, ________, take you, ________, to be my wedded wife, to love and to cherish in accordance with the divine law as set forth in the Holy Scriptures for Christian husbands, for as long as we both shall live or until the divine termination of the marital arrangement."
Then the minister will ask the woman to repeat after him:
"I, ________, take you, ________, to be my wedded husband, to love and to cherish and deeply respect, in accordance with the divine law as set forth in the Holy Scriptures for Christian wives, for as long as we both shall live or until the divine termination of the marital arrangement."
If a ring ceremony is desired, at this point the man may place the ring on the third finger of the woman’s left hand. In case of a double ring ceremony, the woman shall place the ring on the third finger of the man’s left hand. If he desires, the minister may remark in connection with this ceremony: "This ring [or rings] is an outward and visible sign signifying unto all the uniting of this man and this woman in the bonds of matrimony."
The minister will then say: "Forasmuch as [man’s name] and [woman’s name] have covenanted before Jehovah God and these witnesses to accept each other in wedlock, I, as an ordained minister and by the authority conferred upon me by the Holy Scriptures and the State (Province) of ________, pronounce that they are husband and wife together. What God has yoked together, let no man put apart."
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The Divine Termination of the Marital Arrangement - I need an old timer
by Bonnie_Clyde ini talked about this on gophers post about you cannot live forever on paradise earth, but thought i would start a separate one as i need an old timer who can remember attending a witness wedding in the 1950s.
gopher asked
: what happens if the earth (in such a paradise) reaches the point of overpopulation, meaning there are not enough food and other resources available for continued growth?
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From the August 1, 1952 Watchtower, p. 478 "Questions From Readers":
• The June 15 Watchtower on “The Marriage Ceremony”, arranges for the man getting married to repeat after the minister that he will love and cherish his wife “for as long as we both shall live or until the divine termination of the marital arrangement”. What is meant by the words “until the divine termination of the marital arrangement”?—L. K., New York.
Some have speculated on that phrase, saying that it means until the marriage is Scripturally terminated by a divorce on the grounds of adultery. But no such unhappy conclusion of the marriage would be envisioned at the happy time of the marriage ceremony. That is not a termination initiated by God, but is a tragic one brought about by the uncleanness of the adulterous one. Others have interpreted the expression to mean when an anointed mate of one of the earthly class is finally taken to heaven to reign with Christ. The physical death of the anointed partner terminates such marriage. So that is not the thought intended. Nor should it be taken, as still others have taken it, to definitely mean that the marriage will end when the divine mandate to fill the earth will have been accomplished. The expression is used merely to cover a possibility, to allow for any future termination that may come about through the divine providence. When the mandate to fill the earth is fulfilled, when childbearing ceases, the marriage partners may continue their association together as life companions, or they may not, depending upon the divine will at that future, distant time. We cannot say at this time what divine providence will arrange in the distant future in the new world. So this expression merely allows for some future action on the part of God that may terminate the marital arrangement, but it does not mean that such a divine termination will actually take place. We leave that entirely with the Lord for his future action, and the expression is included to show that if such future action is ever taken then all couples will gladly comply with the divine will as it is revealed at that distant time.
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Anyone know German or Russian?
by Dogpatch ini got this via email, does anyone know how to respond?.
randy.
> dear randy:.
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cabasilas
Also, the entire text of Crisis of Conscience is available online in Russian:
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My website: www.reexamine.org
by reexaminer ingreetings.. i have started a project that i hope will stay online for times indefinate, even to times indefinate.
you can find it at www.reexamine.org .. i started working on it in october and it is still a work in progress, however because of the shut down of the website located at http://quotes.watchtower.ca i felt that i should release the site in "as-is" condition, instead of waiting until it was completely finished.. currently, there isn't a lot of content in the 'wiki' section of the website.
hopefully in the next few days and weeks that will change, however there are still programming issues that i have to work out before that can happen.
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Not sure if this is mentioned elsewhere. Also now available at:
is the book "Organized to Accomplish our Ministry," the book that was replaced by "Organized to do Jehovah's Will" (which is also there along with the "Pay Attention" and "Child Custody" books).
Both the WT Library 2004 CD-ROM and the Watchtower Bookshelf CD-ROMs are available for downloading. The Bookshelf CD-ROM has all the books from 1942-1959---including "The New World," "Paradise Lost," "Your Will Be Done on Earth," and "Jehovah's Witnesses--in the Divine Purpose." Included on the above page are links that explain how to burn these downloads onto a CD-ROM.
I know some of this was mentioned earlier but I don't think all of this has been announced here. If it has and I missed it, I apologize.
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New Release at Reexaminer
by inbyathread in.
the watchtower bookshelf cd is listed for download as an iso.. the file size is listed as 602 kb which seems a little small.. downloaded and copied (i do know how) but didn't work.
check again soon for correction?
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cabasilas
I had the same problem and I emailed them about it. I just got a reply from the admin of reexamine.org and the problem is being worked on and shoukl be fixed in a few hours.
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Need Recent Quotes: Who Will Survive Armageddon?
by cabasilas ini'm involved in a discussion with a jw who is highlighting a few statements in wt literature which indicates there may be some people who do not know of the jws (and possibly some children) who may be spared at armageddon.
he is saying this is the only real stand the witnesses take.
i'm thinking that there must still be some hard line statements in the wt publications which would indicate that only jws can hope to survive.am i mistaken?
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Thank you all for the quotes! These will be very helpful.
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Need Recent Quotes: Who Will Survive Armageddon?
by cabasilas ini'm involved in a discussion with a jw who is highlighting a few statements in wt literature which indicates there may be some people who do not know of the jws (and possibly some children) who may be spared at armageddon.
he is saying this is the only real stand the witnesses take.
i'm thinking that there must still be some hard line statements in the wt publications which would indicate that only jws can hope to survive.am i mistaken?
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cabasilas
I'm involved in a discussion with a JW who is highlighting a few statements in WT literature which indicates there may be some people who do not know of the JWs (and possibly some children) who may be spared at Armageddon. He is saying this is the only real stand the Witnesses take. I'm thinking that there must still be some hard line statements in the WT publications which would indicate that only JWs can hope to survive.Am I mistaken? I don't have access to recent publications...anyone here? I'm looking for specific, clear statements in the last 10 years. Thanks!
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Which came first? (Prediction of 1914/1915 question)
by FaithfulDoubter inok, so quotes.watchtower.ca is down, but i had did have a question for you watchtower historians out there.
was the 7 times prophecy from daniel used before or after the watchtower used the pyramids to predict 1914/1915?
when was the date first mentioned, where, and in what matter?
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cabasilas
At the bottom of that page is a link to a study:
Historical Idealism and Jehovah's Witnesses
by our own Thomas Daniels:
Very well done, IMO.