Ohiamfree

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  JW Reaction to Royal Commission Reports

  by maksutov in

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  2. scandals

  has anybody confronted any jws with the royal commission reports on the news yet?

  i showed my 8-year old daughter a newspaper headline about it, and when she told my jw wife that the jws in australia were in trouble for not reporting over 1,000 child abusers to police, her response was "oh, really?

  well, i don't know what the rules are over there.

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  Well done BluesBrother! I wonder if we all emailed BBC and Sky if it would help?
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  Branch Service Department Manual approves appointing Child molestors as Elders

  by stuckinamovement in

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  2. scandals

  http://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/downloadfile.ashx?guid=7ba22716-556c-43c2-9fc6-76697afad440&type=exhibit&filename=wat.0001.004.0076&fileextension=pdf

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  Okay...so let me get my head round this AGAIN....if I marry someone when I am not free to marry again under their rules of what qualifies as loose conduct, myself and my husband can never ever have privileges again.

  However a known child molester.......

  What the freakin hell????!!!!
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  Wednesday Hearings LIVE LINK NOW

  by Mad Sweeney in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  http://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-study/636f01a5-50db-4b59-a35e-a24ae07fb0ad/case-study-29,-july-2015,-sydney.

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  Having been emotionally abused by my ex I was also counselled for telling a few close friends about the situation when I left him. I was counselled to not gossip. So of course instead rumours spread of my mental health instead thanks to my ex....its disgusting.

  And the idea of adultery being more serious than child abuse? Wow, bet the court are going to have fun getting their teeth into that discussion.
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  Wednesday Hearings LIVE LINK NOW

  by Mad Sweeney in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  http://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-study/636f01a5-50db-4b59-a35e-a24ae07fb0ad/case-study-29,-july-2015,-sydney.

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  Did he just say that they found "a more serious reason for disfellowshiping"???!!!
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  July 26th Watchtower. Twisted learning

  by Lemonp in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the wt study this week made me feel sick!

  it is one of the most blatantly un-scriptural articles i have ever seen!

  in these paragraphs we see how we should treat our neighbor ... so, what examples do we have of loving our neighbors?

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  Why do the Witnesses need "extra" reminding above and beyond and why do they fail at the basics even in spite of the "reminders"?

  Because you can't have morals unless you are JW ;) jokes.
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  Phonecalls

  by asensier in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  dealing with phonecalls from home is becoming increasingly more difficult.

  for any of you following my blog, please take a moment to look at my most recent post.

  as always, your support is invaluable, thank you.

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  Oh something else! My counsellor helped me to realise that you can't make other people feel a certain way - if you mum thinks this and she thinks that etc that is HER problem not yours. So saying to her things like "I'm sorry that you feel that way, that isn't how I see things, I hope you can realise that simply isn't how it is one day" may possibly help. But most of all - don't feel guilty - how she's making herself feel is her problem and carries no evidence. Continue showing love and they might just see in the end that you are happier than ever.
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  Phonecalls

  by asensier in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  dealing with phonecalls from home is becoming increasingly more difficult.

  for any of you following my blog, please take a moment to look at my most recent post.

  as always, your support is invaluable, thank you.

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  Asensier - there are so many replied I can provide haha!

  One me big one is about you choosing Liam over your family. My future mother in law used this against my bf in a way. She asked him what he was going to do about all his friends. He didn't know how to reply at the time but I thought about a good reply to that. When you get married your mate IS your family, you leave your mother and father and they become your family - THATS LIFE. That's what your mum decided to do and your dad.

  Secondly - turn it on its head - ask them do they want you to come back because they want you to and they bullied you into it, or because YOU want to? What would Jehovah want ;) you need to reply with questions. Write replies down and keep them with you in case they call.

  These are a good way to try and make them realise that your relationship with them and your relationship with a creator are AND SHOULD BE two different things. As the scriptures say, everyone must carry their own load. Remind them of the prodigal son (did they see the drama a few years back at the convention? The DVD?) ask them if the family hounded their child to return or simply left them to make their own mind up. Even recommend they watch the DVD. They won't know what to freakin do!

  Keep strong, and don't forget there is support out there for people who need it - cognitive therapy is incredible for this - it helped me so much to not be in fear and I highly recommend it. There are lots of self-referral organisations out there. My counsellor was great at getting me planning about what I could do in the worst scenario etc.
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  Happiness is achievable

  by asensier in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  update - for those of you who read my last topic 'disfellowshipped at 18' i am so thankful for all the support and helpful comments i received.

  it's amazing to know that despite how alone i may feel, so many of you have suffered the same way that i have.

  i know that i can live happily without being one of jehovah's witnesses.

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  You are so brave xxx congratulations on your new life xxx
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  Shunned or actually...not treated much differently?!

  by Ohiamfree in

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  2. experiences

  so today on my way to work, i passed a faithful jw sister who i have met about 6 times and spoken to and was friends with a sister she spends a lot of time with, i looked at her and smiled and she looked through me.

  i wondered if she knew to shun me.

  i'm dating someone when i have no photographic evidence that i am free to remarry ;) let's ignore all forms of abuse and unfaithfulness...anyway!.

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  So today on my way to work, I passed a faithful JW sister who I have met about 6 times and spoken to and was friends with a sister she spends a lot of time with, I looked at her and smiled and she looked through me. I wondered if she knew to shun me. I'm dating someone when I have no photographic evidence that I am free to remarry ;) let's ignore all forms of abuse and unfaithfulness...anyway!

  Then the penny dropped, and I smiled to myself. She doesn't know. How do I know this? Because she has ALWAYS looked straight through me if she saw me in the street. In fact, she isn't the only one. Even when I was a young teenager with no naughty record, I still had JW people look through me, be rude to me and pick on small things like the top I'm wearing to the meeting (a modest top may I add! But with a disapproving soft print of a women's face on - I must have been like 14?!)

  and then...when I pioneered...the lack of support and how I often pursued my work on my own.

  And when I ran away from my ex, and carried on diligently in my new congregation - the majority didn't help me as a young vulnerable sister - living on an inflatable bed in my "worldly" friends flat. Over 4 years there were about 10 people in a congregation of 100 that showed me kindness. That's mental! How many people reached out to see how I was when I disappeared from their cong? Erm about 5 - when I had been there 6 years!!!!

  And then I compared all this to how I am treated by the people I work with and in my community, and how they support me, and are kind to me without even knowing much about me. And it made me realise, these people don't understand what love is at all! I am not being "shunned" in a new way at all - there has always been something about me they didn't quite like - my creative streek maybe? The way I love animals maybe? The way I love music, art and culture?

  Well JW, I am proud to say - I am me and now proud to be me. The reason most JW can't deal with it, is purely because they have no personality and rely on others to tell them what their personality should be or in what ways they should show love - they all have to be TOLD how to do things. I'm different, thank goodness and clearly - they don't know how to deal with it!

  i am so glad to have faded away - and so glad I can see all this. I wonder how many of us here think we are being shunned because of having been marked, when actually, no one was interested to begin with? I would love to hear your comparisons.
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  Sir David Eady to give judgement on the Watctower Appeal in the Otuo v Morley and Watch Tower case at the High Court tommorrow

  by Adwoa Kromo in

  1. forum
  2. announcements

  sir david eady sitting as high court judge will hand down judgement tomorrow at 11:00am in the appeal of the decision from master leslie for refusing to strike out the claim as an abuse of process.

  in his judgement in november 2014 he stated in his judgement delivered ex-tempore " i am bound to say that this case causes me a good deal of trouble".

  from notes that i have from the hearing last week, i will be utterly surprised if the retired judge sir david eady takes a different view.

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  Any news?