Wish I could'nt go but I don't want to crush my wife's faith. Not to mention all the family shunning. But in time I will have to do just that. Eventualy everyone will have to do just that. "Sigh"
CornerStone
gotta go to the memorial.
gotta put on a show.
don't wanna sit there.
Wish I could'nt go but I don't want to crush my wife's faith. Not to mention all the family shunning. But in time I will have to do just that. Eventualy everyone will have to do just that. "Sigh"
CornerStone
gotta go to the memorial.
gotta put on a show.
don't wanna sit there.
Gotta go to the memorial
Gotta put on a show
Don't wanna sit there
"Man! Is this gonna blow!"
Gotta smile with the dub drones
Gotta REJECT Christ once again
"Lord, Please let this be the last time!"
"TOO LATE! YOUR DOOMED! YOUR GOING TO HELL!---juust kidding
Gotta hear the lead-dub MISread
How "unqualified observer" trash we be
So that means were in the same group as DEMONS!
Cause their observers of a sort themselves--- you see?
As my hands make the bread pass before me
As I share in this most degrading of occasions AGAIN this night
Liquid refreshment they are meekly handing to me
Do I dare chose to do what is right?
CornerStone
I just scared my wife with the picture, tee hee hee.
CornerStone
HAY, THAT SCARED THE HELL OUTTA ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That was pretty good tho.
CornerStone
years ago, when my mom was alive, she was very active.
in the door to door work.
she always had bible studies.. but she started noticing a change in the kind of people.
Man, Oh man BM, you hit the nail on the head!
Commenting on Metatrons' post, you pretty much summed up my entire 'active' JW experience. Lonely and then being stripped of ALL my privilages for asking a few questions. All in a nut shell.
The Borg Masters really do seek out broken people, their easier to control. Emtionaly mature, financially stable people have little but 'show' value to those controlling snakes.
MAY THEY GET 10 TIMES THE ROT THEY GIVE THE WORLD!!!!!!
i was in the org.
for 35 years, and it never once occurred to me why we never taught our children the lord's pray.. our father who art in heaven hollow be thy name..... anybody have any reason for our ignoring the most perfect prayer offered up by god's son.. my fiance' ask me this tonight i can't explain it except that it would have turned into a repetitive expression like all our prayers were anyway... hell is truth seen too late.
h.g.adams
I think a MAJOR reason the Borg Masters don't want the R&F JW's to say the Lords prayer is in the precieved RELATIONSHIP between the one praying and the one prayed to.
Remember, according to cult central, the great crowd JW's heavenly father is JESUS, not JEHOVAH. The Borg Masters don't believe avarage JW's have a filial or direct relationship with Jehovah God as the Bible teaches.
They believe Jehovah is their heavenly GRANDFATHER or someother non-directly related entity, so a prayer calling God their heavenly father goes directly against what the Borg Masters teach.
Imagine R&F JW's calling God their heavenly father. Why, they would then begin to think of themselves as deserving all the rights and priviliges due children of God.
But where would that leave that vipers nest called the FDS? The FDS would lose their position and control over the masses. They dangle 'possible' sonship with God, ( in a thousand years + last days ), over the heads of the R&F to CONTROL them, those vomit/puss filled boils on the skin of humanity!
CornerStone
hypothetically speaking, how do we know that we do not have a jw plant amongst ourselves??
?someone who could frequent the forum, post, be in chat and yet not be suspect of being a wt spy.
just tongue in cheek girls and guys....who would be the least obvious, and least expected to be a plant?
I think most 'good' JW's avoid boards like this like the plague.
However,
due to the increasing involvment of lawyers in official Borg business,
I think the lawyers will take it upon themselves to see what the 'enemy' is doing and mabey even act covertly behind the Borg Masters' collective backs, like hacking and mabey 'flaming' this DB and other embarassing websights. All for Gods' glory, ofcourse.
On the flip side, I think Borg central will have to keep their guard up to protect others from hearing and seeing the dirty little decisions they make with other peoples lives.
Electronic listening devices pointed right at an open window, bug sized cameras in the corner of a window or door. Why, with just a little $$ and imagination the next big scandal could be front line news,... well, internet front line news anyway.
CornerStone
dear all,.
i desperately feel that the grand title of apostate applies no more to ex jws than it does to the whole of active jws.. therefore, i am asking for some sort of alternative title for the wonderful people who post on here.
the word apostate strikes fear in the average dub.
I do believe that is the most reasonable discussion I have heard Fred have, EVER!
(P.S. Sorry to talk about you, Fred, in the third person )
CornerStone
im confused would i take blood if i was about to die and had no other alternative treatment well to me thats allways been a hard one one to answer and people have allways hated witnesses for refusing it or not giving blood to there own kids.you see my mothers due in to hospital on tuesday and having a major operation the problem for her is she is inactive as a jw and has no blood card which is upto date what do you think she should do 1.phone elders 2.trust in jehovah and refuse blood.3if it comes to the worst take blood and live.
Hello M.C.,
You bet I would take blood! And any HLC member that did not get out of my face on the double I'd chase down with a bat, a bed-pan, or I'd squirt a packet of blood on him! [>:(]
And I WOULD NOT respect my wifes wishes to not take blood, (she is still in). Because Watchtower blood policy is based on a LIE, I will not stand by and see my baby or anyone else for that matter sacrificed on their DISGUSTING, INHUMAN alter!
I'd rather have my baby ALIVE and hateing me than COLD and DEAD!
CornerStone
jws are advocating religious freedom for the simple reason that they want to be recognised as a religion in some countries and freely advocate their beliefs.
they believe they should be given equal rights as a christian denomination.
but i happen to know, when a member of jws wants to leave the organisation, there are meetings with the elders, things are said to you that only wts is the true organisation of god.
Hello Tosko and Welcome to the board!
Well, to answer your question, IMO, the Jehovahs Witness faith CAN'T give freedom of belief to their own followers because they never had it to offer them in the first place.
In the WEST, at least, religions don't usually hold a gun to your head to force you to stay. However the .org leaders will 'sanction' you if you go: family breakups, no business deals, lifelong SHUNNING and other evil things.
What is even worse is that the .org leaders LAMENT over the fact that they can't outright KILL those who leave their cult. ( I forgot the WT that was on, mabey someone can remember. )
I think it is just a matter of degrees when it comes to how a religion or belief system treats someone who wants to leave. If your a Catholic, you could walk away without much trouble, but if your a JW and try to walk away GOD HELP YOU. They will send their NAZI STORM-TROOPER ELDERS AFTER YOU to 'catch you' in dissapproved activity and thus 'deal with you' in their eyes. The .org leaders REALLY are sad they can't stone you right there, just like the Pharisees'.
CornerStone