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Comments You Will Not Hear at the 2-12-06 WT Study (Righteousness)

by blondie in

25-29)(righteousness).

is this the only example of how a young woman can seek righteousness first, .

3. what is righteousness?

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Pistoff

I can only hear the crickets in billyboy-Land

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Why am I not bitter?

by DannyBloem in

many people on this board seems to be a bit bitter and angry.

many do feel a form of hate towards the gb or even witnesses in general.. i do understand that many feel this way, some have all rigths to be bitter.. wy do i not feel like that?

i am not bitter, nor hate the gb or witnesses.

Inquisitor

Am I bitter about this religion of mine? Hmmm...

Knowing what I do now, I am sometimes very upset that I hadn't listened to both sides of the story before deciding that this was the TRUTH.

I mean if I had allowed myself that opportunity, I would have made more of an effort to be friends with some of the non-JW kids at school. I would have lived life more fully instead of spending most of it attending meetings and being wary of "the origins" of certain customs and festivals. I would have celebrated life instead of building a brick wall around it. So much fear of the world, so much dislike for Christendom and their followers.

I would have learned to love myself for who I am, instead of trying to transform myself into this smiley, obliging idiot who got kicked around by the headstrong... woops i mean veteran JWs.

I think I feel more regret than bitterness. Brain-dead JW apologists annoy me. And so does some of the misguided teachings the WTS passes off as God's will. But at the end of the day, I'm not bitter over JWs.

I also feel anxious for my family who are still loyal to this organization. For I ask myself, "if the JW chips are low one day, will my folks sacrifice everything to prove their loyalty God, in the manner taught by this very fallible organization?"

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Comments You Will Not Hear at the 2-12-06 WT Study (Righteousness)

by blondie in

25-29)(righteousness).

is this the only example of how a young woman can seek righteousness first, .

3. what is righteousness?

Inquisitor

Dear billyboy

I'm glad you're able to recognize that Blondie has invested no small amount of effort in the weekly Watchtower articles. While I cannot speak for Blondie and I'm not here to judge whether she's as pedantic as you imply, I believe there are several advantages to writing up a critical piece like this.

1) It's a great way to get things of your chest.

2) It alerts others to the biased style of writing emplyed by the FDS.

How many times have we had to sit and listen to Sister Zealous or Bro. Holy Balls happily comment to reinforce the WTS dogma on:

the wickedness of this world ("there is nothing good left in it, Amen"),

higher education,

materialism ("simplify your life, but don't let the KH funds run into deficit, mind you!"),

reading of any material that contradicts the WTS, even if it is from a secular source ("APOSTASY!!!"),

etc...

There is little, if any ,acceptance of any point whatsoever THAT CONTRADICTS the article - it is all condemned. This appear to be a weekly effort TOO. Why are you not disturbed by this, billyboy?

When "discussing" the above topics, yes I admit the WTS occassionally makes a legitimate point, but do THEY not continue on a NEGATIVE BASIS?

And why does the WTS keep HARPING on the same issues again and again, sustaining the negativity of their followers towards other religions, towards their non-JW associates, towards any form of secular career? WHAT IS THEIR POINT? WHAT ARE THEIR MOTIVES for doing so?

To encourage current JW zealots they have made the right decision to stick with the organization?

To provide "food at the proper time" for still-in JWs who're too lazy or too brainwashed to realize that the WTS is intellectually dishonest?

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PVG

by Inquisitor in

what is a pvg (i think it's patient visitation group)?

it was mentioned in the recent letter at the service meeting.. what does the pvg do?.

and how is it related to the hlc and the local body of elders?.

Inquisitor

So i take it that nobody knows huh?

Has this PVG thing been mentioned before the reading of this letter?

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PVG

by Inquisitor in

what is a pvg (i think it's patient visitation group)?

it was mentioned in the recent letter at the service meeting.. what does the pvg do?.

and how is it related to the hlc and the local body of elders?.

Inquisitor

Nosey sisters? INQ!!! Not in the Watch Tower surely Hi mouthy No, of course not. Not many in the Watchtower. Too many elderly GB big shots giving them a hard time. Those I refer to would be running around in various congregations all over the world, minding other people's business. INQ

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FREELOADER PIONEER SISTER HAS GONE 2 FAR! MY FATHER EVEN THINKS SO.

by stillAwitness in

this lady really is starting too irritate me.

first she uses my expensive oil control cream:

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/104894/1.ashx

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Hi stilla

Sorry to hear that you've been caught in one of those irritating situations where you'd really like to vent your spleen, but have had to hold back to be polite.

My family used to play host to a pioneer sister too. Boy, did she enjoy taking things for granted. Though she'd tell us that we needn't worry about fixing her meals, she would ALWAYS stick around and wait for us to have a meal, so that we would invite her to join us. Man, could she eat. The only time she didn't join us was when some other bro/sis from our cong invites her to go out for a meal. Also, she wasn't good with house chores, and so she had the luxury of sitting around waiting to tell us jokes and inspirational stories for the christian soul . No, I don't know how she finds all that free time.

Anyway, her habits annoyed me to no end, so I began throw some remarks in her presence that hinted at my displeasure. My family felt the same way as I do, but they didn't think it was appropriate to say anything outside of family. Luckily for us, this sister was sensitive enough to know it was time to pack up and leave. But not after bitching about me to some of the cong. I know cos I was chilled by the arctic frost emanating from her close friends.

I guess the moral of my story is this: To fight a bitch, BE ONE.

Regards, INQ

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PVG

by Inquisitor in

what is a pvg (i think it's patient visitation group)?

it was mentioned in the recent letter at the service meeting.. what does the pvg do?.

and how is it related to the hlc and the local body of elders?.

Inquisitor

Thanks for the reply, stillajw.

But that's exactly it, isn't it? I don't recall the letter saying who the PVG members are. Elders? HLC members? Nosey sisters? Overbearing brothers?

All that was mentioned was which committee oversees which, if I recall correctly.

So does anyone know what sorta JWs make up a PVG?

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PVG

by Inquisitor in

what is a pvg (i think it's patient visitation group)?

it was mentioned in the recent letter at the service meeting.. what does the pvg do?.

and how is it related to the hlc and the local body of elders?.

Inquisitor

What is a PVG (i think it's Patient Visitation Group)? It was mentioned in the recent letter at the service meeting.

What does the PVG do?

And how is it related to the HLC and the local body of elders?

INQ

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Answering JW Objections

by Rook in

2. the father is god .

4. the holy spirit is god .

simply put, the doctrine of the trinity states that there is one true god, and within that god there are three co-equal and co-eternal persons: father, son, and holy spirit.

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Before addressing the most common objections, it’s important to make sure that we are starting with an accurate definition of the Trinity. Many who oppose the Trinity do so with a faulty understanding of the definition. Simply put, the doctrine of the Trinity states that there is one true God, and within that God there are three co-equal and co-eternal persons: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. - Rook

Does the fault lie in their understanding? Or does it lie in the logic of the definition?

Try as i have, I can't seem to get in my head how one can have a SINGLE true God split into 3 persons when the need arises and yet have EACH of the 3 stand as a COMPLETE TRUE GOD on his own. If each of the three "persons" are "components" of GOD, how can GOD be complete when one "component" or part of GOD leaves heaven to sped some time on earth?

4. Jesus calls the Father, “the only true God,” therefore Jesus cannot be God.

In other words, if the Father is the only true God, then Jesus cannot also be a true God and the Holy Spirit cannot also be a true God (distinguishing them as separate gods rather than simply separate persons).

I'm sorry, but what is the difference between separate gods and separate persons?

Is there another definition here that I may not be aware of?

If we understand the true nature of the Trinity, we can acknowledge that the Son and Holy Spirit are co-equal and co-eternal persons that comprise the one true God

So you're saing that the one true God sent a God the Son to the earth who is in actual fact himself the one true God? ????????

It is a misleading generality to say, “Jesus prayed to God.”

Misleading to whom? To those who believe in the Trinity or to those who don't? I don't think the critics have a problem with it. As for proponents, well, it does fit your definition. If the Father is God, then wasn't God Jesus praying to God the Father?

To be more precise, we should say that Jesus (The Son) prayed to The Father in the garden.

WHY? If they are indeed the same ONE TRUE GOD. Why is there a need to get into specifics? In fact would it be wrong to even drop the name "Jesus" and just go with "God on earth prayed to God in heaven"? WHY do you now in this context see a need to split GOD into his components?

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New Light On Blood???

by jschwehm in

hi gang:.

i have been assisting a lady in conversing with her boyfriend who has been studying with the jws.. this past weekend, the elder that is studying with this lady's boyfriend claimed that blood transfusions are a conscience matter and that you can have them if you want.. now, is this part of the new document on blood that is coming down soon or is this guy just playing word games?.

let me know.. jeff schwehm

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jojo

Did she take whole blood? Red blood cells, white blood cells, platelets or plasma?

Or did she take one of the sanctioned blood fractions? e.g. Hemoglobin

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