The man is just not honest, end of story. He is lying to the people he says are the most important to him. He is breaking all the rules and getting away with it (he was with a nonJW before.) An interesting thing about Witnesses is that they don't really know what it means to tell the truth. They are forced to repeat lies so often that they can't tell the difference anymore. As a JW he is allowed to use theocratic tact in dealing with outsiders. Let me explain: Theocratic tact is the doctrine that says you can lie to those who do not deserve the truth. Who doesn't deserve the truth? YOU don't deserve the truth, because YOU are an outsider, and a worldly person. Worldly people are in the grasp of Satan and therefore do no deserve the truth. he can lie to you to infinity and never feel a twinge of conscience because it is technically OK with his religion that he do that. They also call this doctrine theocratic warfare.
Seriously, you just can't have a normal healthy relationship with someone who is deceiving every one he loves in this world. you can't have a normal relationship with a cult member. If he marries you, god forbid, he will ever try to convert you. he will never ever stop trying to convert you, because he loves you and believes that if you don't convert you will die at the hand of god. HE WILL NEVER ADMIT TO THE THINGS WE ARE SAYING HERE as long as he is still defending his religion.
Let the record show that we have warned you of the pending disaster. If you go for it anyway, God help you.
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I need some serious informational help from EVERYONE!
by Thedirtysecret ini am new here and i joined honestly to collect information to understand something a little better.
my boyfriend, well-now kinda boyfriend (were at a weird place) is a jehovah's witness and i am not.
he waited a little "far" into our relationship to tell me he was, which created a mess, honestly an emotional dyfunctional mess.
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JWs Have a NEW TACTIC (at least to me)
by Gretchen956 ini have a new job now and take mass transit, the max train into town and then a short bus trip to work.
in between i have about 3 to 6 blocks to traverse, depending on what time it is and which bus i'm catching.
today i'm walking the last bit to my stop and watching the street for signs of the bus, and two women come walking up, at a good clip, and i can tell they are handing something out.
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It's Called the PLACE AND RACE method. you have to run as fast as you can after leaving a mag in case the person wants to have an earnest conversation. If a person wants to talk to a Witness, then that is dangerous because that person might ask critical questions that could poison your mind. we must flee from apostate propaganda. If you pause even a second, that gives the Devil a chance to place something of his own, like subversive thoughts or thought provoking questions.
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2008 District Convention Theme
by R.F. inokay, so it should be very soon when the theme for the 2008 convention will be made public.
what do you think the them will be?
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"Laboriously Working for Salvation"
"Life Everlasting in Drudgery to Come"
"Stand Still and See the Deliverance of God - No, Really, I'm serious, Just Stand There and Don't Live Your Life"
" Stand United In The Truth In Spite of All Evidence to the Contrary"
"Kill Your Father and Rape Your Mother!"
"Drink the Refeshing Lifesaving Sperm of the Watchtower" -
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Meetup in one hour in Long Beach, Noon today, Sat. Oct, 6
by Shawn10538 in"coffee caliente" coffee house - 55 alamitos av.
long beach.
i'll be there for about two hours (till 2 o'clock).
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"Coffee Caliente" Coffee house - 55 Alamitos Av. Long Beach. I'll be there for about two hours (till 2 o'clock). Come and join us. Call 562-225-5928. Shawn.
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Is the story of Jesus copied from another religion?
by blueviceroy ini have been doing a lot of religious research and one of my favorite storys seems to be a retelling of an older story.
it seeme that the story of jesus is predated by the story of horus the egyptian sun diety, the similarities between the two are remarkable and i found it casts a shadow on some of the more beloved belirfs of this country.
i find it a little disturbing that so many people i know put so much faith in religion.
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"Some of the supposed parallels are the result of the modern scholar's amalgamation of quite heterogenous elements drawn from various sources. As Schweitzer pointed out, 'Almost all the popular writings fall into this kind of inaccuracy. They manufacture out of the various fragments of information a kind of universal Mystery-religion which never actually existed, least of all in Paul's day.' Even reputable scholars have succumbed to the temptation to be more precise than the existing state of information will permit. Commenting on this temptation, Edwyn R. Bevan says caustically: 'Of course if one writes an imaginary description of the Orphic mysteries, as Loisy [Alfred Loisy, 1857-1940], for instance, does, filling in the large gaps in the picture left by our data from the Christian eucharist, one produces something very impressive. On this plan, you first in the Christian elements, and then are staggered to find them there.' It goes without saying that alleged parallels which are discovered by pursuing such methodology evaporate when they are confronted with the original texts. In a word, one must beware of what have been called 'parallels made plausible by selective description.' " (Metzger, "Considerations of Methodology in the Study of Mystery Religions and Early Christianity," Harvard Theological Review, Vol. 48, No. 1, p. 9)
I just wanted to respond to this quote. He seems to be saying that the Christian elements were added to these non-Christian stories AFTER Christ. Two things wrong with that. If you read Doane's primary resource manuscript, you will see examples of ancient writings on stones, tablets etc. that tell the Christ story with all major elements that date back thousands of years. So the evidence is there and available for all christians to see. I don't know why this man doesn't know about them.
The other thing wrong with the quote is that if you take the Christian elements out of the ancient myths, there would be no story left. The central theme of Prometheus (a work that we have complete copies of that date before Christ) is that the Son of God was born of a virgin, saved mankind by revealing fire to them, died crucified, and was resurrected (in Prometheus Unbound). that IS the Christ story, it's not just a story with Christian elements. And that is just one example. there are hundreds of examples of Christ or Krishna stories.
He also seems to be saying that scholars are LOOKING for Christian elements in ancient stories, and so they find them, filling in gaps in non-Christian myths by adding Christian elements to them. This would be an unnecessary step to take in view of the fact we have complete stories with no gaps that actually do parallel the story of Christ and precede it chronologically. As to looking for Christ elements and so they find them, well, if they weren't there, how would anybody find them? And metzger seems to be attacking the MOTIVES of scholars who see parallels just as plain as day. This is an ad hominem attack, typical of religious apologists. Open for debate. -
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Is the story of Jesus copied from another religion?
by blueviceroy ini have been doing a lot of religious research and one of my favorite storys seems to be a retelling of an older story.
it seeme that the story of jesus is predated by the story of horus the egyptian sun diety, the similarities between the two are remarkable and i found it casts a shadow on some of the more beloved belirfs of this country.
i find it a little disturbing that so many people i know put so much faith in religion.
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Christ myths are still being written. The Little Prince, Jonathan Livingston Seagull, and a bunch of movies and songs all tell the same story over and over again.
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JW tragedy in Newark, New Jersey
by Gopher inan elder was killed in a hit-and-run incident near the kingdom hall, either before or after door-to-door work.. http://www.nj.com/news/ledger/essex/index.ssf?/base/news-4/1191559961217180.xml&coll=1 (type jehovah in the search box).
man is killed in hit-and-run in newarkat least three suspects escape on foot from stolen vehicle after crashfriday, october 05, 2007 .
by barry carterstar-ledger staffsimon priester jr., a jehovah's witness, may have been getting ready to canvass a newark neighborhood yesterday morning when a stolen car with three people in it struck and killed him as he was getting out of his vehicle.
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I wonder if Junior is already in the Paradise.
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Is the story of Jesus copied from another religion?
by blueviceroy ini have been doing a lot of religious research and one of my favorite storys seems to be a retelling of an older story.
it seeme that the story of jesus is predated by the story of horus the egyptian sun diety, the similarities between the two are remarkable and i found it casts a shadow on some of the more beloved belirfs of this country.
i find it a little disturbing that so many people i know put so much faith in religion.
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YES! One of my favorite topics. You would really enjoy reading the book, Bible Myths and their Parallels in Other Religions by Doane. I bought my copy at Barnes n noble. You are right about Horus, but there are many others too, the story of Prometheus which is a Greek play that predates the Jewish myth by 700 years or so. Born of a virgin, he is a man/god (his father, Zeus, the almighty god), impaled and chained in the form of a cross, resurrected on the third day, has godlike powers, saved mankind through revealed light (fire) to mankind, the words of John 3:16 is quoted in the text of the play almost word for word but predated John 3:16 in the Bible by 700 years etc. There are Summerian and N. African versions of the Christ story as well which precede the Jewish myth by thousands of years, not hundreds. This makes Christ an archtype, as are: fallen angels, virgin mother, Nephilim, floods, dark skin a curse, promised land, resurrection, and the list just goes on. I hope you read that book. I don't think anyone else on this board has read it. But, it is a great read, as is, Who Wrote the Bible by friedman. Those two books give a one-two punch to Christianity, Judaism and Islaam.
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Your votes will decide: Farewell party for loyal dub VS. Ex-JW meetup
by OnTheWayOut ini am leaving this up to jwd votes.
please don't just attack the dubs and .
vote the other way because of personal feelings.
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Is it possible to breeze in to the dub party, leave real quickly and catch the tail end of the ex meeting. Or vice versa. You could go to the ex meeting and show up late to the dub party. Just remember when you are at the dub party that you are surrounded by people that can work terrible harm on your life. You will be at a party with the gestapo. Be advised.
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Who Would You Like To See As The Next President Of The USA?
by minimus ineven if they aren't running, who would you like to see as the next president?
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Oh, and Romney, A MORON CULT MEMBER, is anybody really serious about him. I mean, the day a mormon can run fro president is a fearful day indeed. Then we'll have a real wacj job, probably worse than W.