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  Would you still be a JW

  by purplebunnyfoofoo in

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  would you still be a jw if you had not been disfellowshipped?

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  justsomedude

  
  Been a fader for about a year now. I drove past a hall a few months ago, but only by accident.

  I will NEVER go back.
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  Oh MAN are they ever annoyed in Brooklyn!

  by MinisterAmos in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i called the information dept politely asking if mr brown was still a witness after commiting verbal apostasy during the interview with ldh.. i got transferred to one of their legal staff and he dropped the "f" bomb and hung up!

  i on the other hand was a complete gentleman.. i would call this a golden opportunity to play up what has to be one of the most embarrasing moments for the dub leadership but is actually an important issue that any current dubz should be concerned about.

  what is the actual policy of the org?

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  I'm going to call back and demand to know (as a concerned Dub) the name of Brown's congo and the name of his PO to report his apostacy just as the WTBS insists we do. Any good WT quotes on keeping the congo clean that I can hit them with?

  If you do, please record it.
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  Ever witnessed a scandalous scene in the Hall?

  by Inquisitor in

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  i'm not talking about the time you gave the nasty elder a bleeding nose

  back when you were still in the org, have you ever seen a trouble-maker

  i remember how once, a drunk

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  justsomedude

  Was that Bill Bowen from silent lambs? HAHA

  
  

  
  Nah, just some knucklehead that came in with a relative. The speaker handled it pretty well.

  Were you living in a tough neighbourhood, justsomedude?

  That was some serious damage! Was the husband a military man or a gangsta?

  The area that the hall was in wasnt great, but it wasnt bad enough to expect terrorist attacks. There was a torched truck that sat in the lot for a week or two afterwards until they could haul it away. Since I was just a kid all I ever really heard was that he was an unbeliever, not sure if there was hanky panky he was avenging or not.

  I thought of another one too... I was running mics once and we had this visitor that came and was taking pictures and just generally checking the place out. He didnt really cause a scene or make any problems until the watchtower study when he said something like "What kind of a world do we live in when a Ni**** like OJ Simpson can still be walking around free". Crazy stuff.

  Oh! There was also an assembly that I went to where some elders son set off a firecracker during the drama. You've never seen attendants pounce on somebody so fast.
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  Ever witnessed a scandalous scene in the Hall?

  by Inquisitor in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm not talking about the time you gave the nasty elder a bleeding nose

  back when you were still in the org, have you ever seen a trouble-maker

  i remember how once, a drunk

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  justsomedude

  When I was a kid, somones husband firebombed three cars in the parking lot during a meeting. That was pretty crazy.

  Another time in a different hall we had someone just stand up and start yelling at the conductor during the watchtower study.

  I think there are more, but I just cant recall them right now.
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  How many people did you bring out?

  by Sacchiel in

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  2. bible

  sorry if this has been discussed previously.

  i will be leaving this false organization soon, but i'm slowly trying to help other see the actual liberation and joy exists.

  have you been succesful in bringing out others from the wt?

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  I've got 2 so far.. I think Im just going to keep my mouth shut for the time being though and not try to rock the boat too much as it seems for the moment the elders are leaving me alone.
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  Ooooooohhhh...My "unofficial" DA letter...yup...got it in the paper!!

  by HadEnuf in

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  over the years here on the forum...i have read with interest many da letters.

  brave people!!

  not so brave.

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  I just need to throw my adoration in with everyone else’s. The definitely deserves a “G” in the apostate ministry school.
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  Studying the 'deep' books - it might be the final straw.

  by jambon1 in

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  i can remember studying the isaiah books 1 & 2 back-to-back.

  during this time i simply never wanted to go to the book study.

  it was all so repetative and boring.

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  Have there been any changes in the Revelation book since it was first released?

  When we studied it the first or second time, I recall one study where a friend of mine was the reader and he read one particular paragraph and after he was done, the book study conductor went back and corrected something he had read. My Friend went back and corrected the book study conductor, who in turn corrected him again.

  When they finally compared books, it turns out they said two different things, buts its been soooo many years I honestly cant recall what the change was.
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  BIG Moral Crisis.....

  by justsomedude in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  (if anything i write below is horrible offensive to anyone, please do me a favor and just ignore this post and dont tell me what rotten person i am and im going to hell or some such thing)

  over the last few years ive had to change a great many views that ive previously been very emphatic about.

  there are a number of things that are currently running through my head, the short list looks like this.

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  Ok, the formatting got all jacked up and I lost some when I pasted the post over, but most of it is still there.
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  BIG Moral Crisis.....

  by justsomedude in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  (if anything i write below is horrible offensive to anyone, please do me a favor and just ignore this post and dont tell me what rotten person i am and im going to hell or some such thing)

  over the last few years ive had to change a great many views that ive previously been very emphatic about.

  there are a number of things that are currently running through my head, the short list looks like this.

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  justsomedude

  (If anything I write below is horrible offensive to anyone, please do me a favor and just ignore this post and don’t tell me what rotten person I am and I’m going to hell or some such thing)

  Over the last few years I’ve had to change a great many views that I’ve previously been very emphatic about. I’ve changed my view on my prior religion, my view on God in general, my view on many things I don’t really need to itemize here, but it should go without saying that my view on right and wrong has made a huge shift.

  There are a great many things that my strict Christian upbringing defined as wrong that I have since defined totally reversed myself on, or relegated to a grey area. Some of these things I did while I was still an active JW (as everyone does), but the most radical changes of course came after I decided to move on.

  In a hopefully successful attempt at keeping this short enough to read without getting too bored,

  With that being said, let me get to my dilemma...

  I’ve been working with a woman for about the last 6-7 years that is absolutely fantastic. When we first started working together, we only talked on the phone for the first few months, but we got along very well because she is without a doubt one of the coolest people I have ever encountered. Well spoken, well read, good sense of humor, great attitude...

  Then I met her in person and found out that she was absolutely gorgeous too....

  This isn’t a bad start to a story, except for one hitch. Sometime later she invited me to a party over at her house, which I immediately took as a very good sign, until she mentioned that it was a birthday party for her husband, who she had previously failed to mention.

  Oh well, not that big a deal.. A beautiful and intelligent woman who is already married, not that big a shock and not the end of the world. I had never actually asked her out or done anything else to make a fool out of myself, so no harm no foul.

  We have ended up being very good friends however over the last few years. At least once a month we usually go hit a happy hour or something like that. I know that’s a little odd for a single guy to be running around with a married woman, but it never really seemed to be a problem, I just figured that was her personality. A lot of times her husband would be there even, so I’ve never really viewed it in any other light than just friends going out for drinks.

  The last Thursday night I was talking with her and she wanted to go have some drinks after work. Her husband was out of town as he often is (on business) and she was looking for something to do. This isn’t the first time we've gone out like that, so I thought nothing of it. I basically had planned to go for about 2 hours and then head home because I had a ton to do yet. Unfortunately as is the case with most of our happy hours, we ended up staying at the bar until around 10 or so. She then asked me to come back to her place and have a few more drink and we'd order a bite to eat. Once again not out of the ordinary, except her husband wasn’t there this time.

  The first hour or two that I was there was basically our usual chit-chat. Although she wasn’t a JW, she was raised in another cult religion and so our life experience has a lot of similarities. Because of this, I find that I can just talk to her for hours and never get bored.

  At some point though, things took a turn... I found myself sitting with her on the couch, with her basically leaning on my shoulder and giving me the most vulnerable look I think I have ever seen on her face and I knew I was in trouble.

  I guess I’m really quite a fool for not seeing this coming, but believe me when I say that while I was attracted to this girl, I wasn’t biding my time and waiting for an opportunity like this. I've never been as honest as I am in saying that we were just friends and if she hadn’t been married, I would have looked at things differently, but she was.

  I wasn’t quite sure how far she wanted to let things go and I don’t think she really was sure herself.

  Omitting the naughty details, I did end up staying the night. We didn’t end up having intercourse, but far more went on than should have. While we both agreed that night that we would still be friends and not let things get weird, I need to get my head on straight damn quick to be able to keep that promise.

  My mood has been a real roller coaster of the last few days, but since I’ve been incredibly busy since that night, I haven’t really had time to sit and just let it eat at me. Sitting quietly in my empty house on a Sunday afternoon though, things have changed and I’m starting to get very down. I can’t possibly see a way for this to go well.

  Something happened last week that can’t be undone. She told me that she had been harboring feelings for me for a long time and then we acted on that. Although I haven’t been acting on it, I am finally starting to admit to myself how much I really do have feeling for her too. The fact that things didn’t go farther than they did the other night, was partly due to the fact that I kept being a buzz kill and bringing up the fact that she is married. I don’t know that I will have the same restraint in the future....

  • There are a number of things that are currently running through my head, the short list looks like this.
  • I’ve crossed a line that I thought was pretty cut and dried for me, I messed around with a married woman.
  • If I acknowledge what I might feel for her, there is no good way for it to go for me.
  • I may have ruined what was a really good friendship. I know lots of people, but the list of people that I really call friends is pretty damn short. Of that very short list, only two people really know whets going on with me right now.
  • I may have created a number of huge headaches at work.

  If anyone has anything to say that will help me escape the current circle of hell that I seem to be orbiting, I’d appreciate the insight.
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  What did your worldly friends think?

  by Fleshybirdfodder in

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  at around 19 years of age i started dating a "worlding" girl and brought her to meetings to get the elders off my back (to no avail of course... i was "marked").

  needless to say word got out and some of my other friends decided to check out some of the meetings.

  one of my closest friends who had been to many church services (he is a gifted musician and played organ at his church and several others) came to a theocratic ministry school/service meeting.

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  justsomedude

  Most generally I didnt tell my "worldly" friends. Despite my previous beliefs I've always had a mouth like a sailor and I drink like a fish. I didnt feel like explaining the discrepancy between my belief and my actions.