Posts by Diogenes

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In Search Of Christian Freedom

by Diogenes in

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i've just received the raymond franz book mentioned above...(it takes time as it's shipped from america).. i've got 4 hours before my dad (elder) comes home from work.. i don't have time to read the book so if anybody could advise pages that are particularly good for me to discuss with my dad i'd be much obliged.. thanks in advance.

Diogenes

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In Search Of Christian Freedom

by Diogenes in

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i've just received the raymond franz book mentioned above...(it takes time as it's shipped from america).. i've got 4 hours before my dad (elder) comes home from work.. i don't have time to read the book so if anybody could advise pages that are particularly good for me to discuss with my dad i'd be much obliged.. thanks in advance.

Diogenes

I've just received the Raymond Franz book mentioned above...(It takes time as it's shipped from America).

I've got 4 hours before my dad (elder) comes home from work.

I don't have time to read the book so if anybody could advise pages that are particularly good for me to discuss with my Dad I'd be much obliged.

Thanks in advance.

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Elders' School this weekend

by atypical in

i don't know if this is true all over the country, but here they are having the elders' school this coming weekend.

i was wondering if there is anybody here who will be going.

if so, i hope we will be getting the scoop afterwards...........

Diogenes

That's what I thought. My dad has been an elder for over 30 years, done numerous JC and didn't know!

I've told him to pretend he's committed adultery but alas he clings onto "the truth" (and he's read COC).

Guess some people like being unhappy.

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Elders' School this weekend

by atypical in

i don't know if this is true all over the country, but here they are having the elders' school this coming weekend.

i was wondering if there is anybody here who will be going.

if so, i hope we will be getting the scoop afterwards...........

Diogenes

No neither of them have commited adultery. They're seperated, have been for a couple of years (both witnesses).

I can never reconcile that rule in my head...They were both extremely young when they married and it was an obvious mistake yet they have to be punished forever?

Another question I can't quite get my head around is this.

If you get an unscriptural divorce and then remarry you're ds'p, do you have to stop sleeping with your new spouse before being reinstated?

Would you not be commiting adultery everytime you slept with them?

Sorry for the vagueness of my responses, I've written nothing more challenging than a talk for a while so I'm used to not making sense.

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Elders' School this weekend

by atypical in

i don't know if this is true all over the country, but here they are having the elders' school this coming weekend.

i was wondering if there is anybody here who will be going.

if so, i hope we will be getting the scoop afterwards...........

Diogenes

Cellist,

There was a thread recently on Oral Sex (being a young man I had to read it).

I don't want to blow my own trumpet (pun intended) but it was mentioned that the Nov 1st W.T has a footnote sending you to the W.T 83 6/1 or 3/15 (can't remember which, but they're both mentioned in the Elders book).

The change, small though it may seem is under Porneia, originally it reads

"Por-ne-ia" involves immoral use of the genitals of (at least one human), the brackets have been crossed out and "new point" is written by the side quoting the 2000 W.T.

I asked my dad how this can be a new point when the 2000 W.T specifically guides you to the 83 W.T which of course there was no answer to.

All seems rather petty but it's pretty important to me as I have a dear friend (who is a witness) who is deeply in love but is unable to marry as the person she is in love with hasn't commited adultery so has no scriptural grounds for a divorce.

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Daniels prophecy

by Hellrider in

i`m discussing with a jw-dork on another forum, and we`re discussing 607, 1914, all that crap (no scholar, stay away from this thread!

) , and then he writes: .

"they were famaliar with the writing of the jewish prophets.

Diogenes

Leolaia,

I'm a new member (joined yesterday) although I've been frequenting the site for quite some time...

Just curious how you know SO MUCH!

It's frightening to actually read some real facts after putting up with the W.T gibberish for years...

Keep up the good work, it's fascinating.

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Elders' School this weekend

by atypical in

i don't know if this is true all over the country, but here they are having the elders' school this coming weekend.

i was wondering if there is anybody here who will be going.

if so, i hope we will be getting the scoop afterwards...........

Diogenes

Sinis,

I think I would actually commit suicide if I had to listen to that trash...

I could pay some student to take notes?

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Elders' School this weekend

by atypical in

i don't know if this is true all over the country, but here they are having the elders' school this coming weekend.

i was wondering if there is anybody here who will be going.

if so, i hope we will be getting the scoop afterwards...........

Diogenes

I'll ask my dad to stay awake for once...

If there are any changes I'll let you know.

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Elders' School this weekend

by atypical in

i don't know if this is true all over the country, but here they are having the elders' school this coming weekend.

i was wondering if there is anybody here who will be going.

if so, i hope we will be getting the scoop afterwards...........

Diogenes

My Dad's going, just got to find a way to get a tape recorder in his bag!

I was nosing through his Elders book today and the amount of things that are crossed out with "new point" written next to it is quite disturbing.

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JW response to latest hard line anti-education WT article?

by watch the tower in

based on some of the recent threads, it seems that the latest wt study article has created quite a stir within the congs.

for those of you that are still attending meetings and in active association with the cong, i am curious as to what the private response of individuals has been like.

i'm not talking about the usual, "wasn't that a great study?

Diogenes

I commented on the W.T Sunday and somehow managed to pluck up my courage and mention that I was going for an interview the following day with a University...

Needless to say the comment went down like a lead balloon...