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The Unkindest Cut: Hateful Words from JWs that Show Their True Colours

by Scully in

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i decided to start this topic when ozziepost shared the experience of a bethel representative telling him and mrs. ozzie "and don't forget, we've got your children!

it's important for us to hear these experiences and to share them with each other.

it helps us tear down the mistaken beliefs that the incidents that happen to us are not isolated ones, but are in fact par for the course when one parts ways with the jws and wts.

Super_Becka

I'll say the same thing that I said on Ozzie's thread on the same topic:

Since when does a group claiming to have the Word of God threaten people?? Oh wait, that's one of the WTS's main functions, threatening its members and keeping them in line with fear tactics.

I can't wrap my brain around the fact that these people can treat us "unbelievers" or those who are "weak in the Truth" like dirt and still believe that they are doing God's work and are assured eternal life in Paradise. Can someone please point me to the Bible passage that says, "JWs, you guys are the real deal, treat everyone else like inferior beings who are going to Hell anyway and you'll be doing exactly what God wants you to. Double the points for being extra-mean and bring family members into it!!".

I can't believe that these people actually believe that they're right in doing this. I thought that the Bible says to "love your neighbours as yourself" and to "do onto others as you would like them to do onto you"?? The JWs constantly look down on everyone who's not a member of the WTS and they treat us "unbelievers" and "apostates" like dirt, even threaten them and their families with impending doom, but when someone says anything even remotely against their beliefs and their organization, and they're running around screaming bloody murder because they're being "persecuted". Who's persecuting who here??

The hypocrisy really blows my mind.

As for my run-ins with JWs, besides the snide remarks my JW boyfriend likes to make about my holidays, the worst thing I ever got from a JW was from a poster here at JWD. He called me, and I quote, a "tree-worshipping Protestant pagan". I think that was supposed to be offensive, but it was just water off a duck's back for me. It kinda shocked me that someone trying to defend his/her beliefs would behave like that and say something like that, but I've surmised that this kind of behaviour is just a defence mechanism for JWs. They're afraid that they might find out just how wrong they are in some respects and of course, that would just pull the rug right out from under their feet, they wouldn't be able to handle it, their whole way of life would crumble, so they build walls and hide behind rude, condescending comments to protect themselves.

-Becka :)

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Problems/Questions on Practices and Beliefs

by candysearching in

i posted this on another thread, but got no response.

why do jws claim to not celebrate christmas and/or birthdays, but will accept gifts?

why don't jws celebrate christmas/birthdays?

Super_Becka

Ahh, another good thread on the weird WTS doctrines against holiday celebrations and their poor track record in predicting the future. I love reading these threads, I always find new information on them that I didn't have before.

A comment on the whole "don't celebrate Christmas" thing:

Before Rutherford, Bible Students (they would come to be known as Jehovah's Witnesses later on) were allowed and encouraged to celebrate Christmas, but when Rutherford took over, that celebration was demonized and shunned by JWs. On one of my threads, a poster commented that it was Rutherford's way of separating his organization from that of Russell. How accurate would that be?? It makes good sense to me.

As for accepting gifts but not giving them for holidays, I think that's very selfish. If you don't celebrate something, you shouldn't accept gifts associated with it. That's like saying, "Birthdays are evil, but I love birthday cake" - it's hypocritical. Gift-giving is a big part of Christmas and other holidays, so if JWs refuse to take part in the celebrations and do everything in their power to demonize Christian celebrations, then they certainly shouldn't be accepting gifts on these occasions.

For the false prophecies, it reminds me of Orwell's book, "1984" - Big Brother (aka the GB) likes to rewrite history and ignore the fact that they've been incredibly wrong in the past, or at least make up weak excuses for their errors so as to keep their followers loyal. Wouldn't want any JWs leaving the WTS on account of the organization's dishonesty and persistent doctrinal errors!!

Just my two cents. I'm looking forward to what everyone else has to say about this.

-Becka :)

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Lurkers and JW apologists: Please read this experience and consider.

by ozziepost in

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friends

it was on another thread (jwfacts' one about his jc meeting) that i posted a personal experience and it occurred to me, that although it is well behind me and i don't dwell on it (much!

), it may be of some help to those who visit here and are unsure what they think about their jw beliefs.. i wrote:.

mrs ozzie and i agreed to have a representative from bethel come to visit us as a friend.

Super_Becka

"And don't forget, we've got your children!" !!!

Whoa, it had to be really creepy to hear that!! I'm reminded of the Wicked Witch of the West in "The Wizard of Oz":

"I'll get you, my pretty, and your little dog, too!!"

Who do these people think they are, anyway?? Seriously, that sounds like a threat to me. Since when does a group claiming to have the Word of God threaten people?? Oh wait, that's one of the WTS's main functions, threatening its members and keeping them in line with fear tactics.

Hey, would it be possible to charge the JW who says something like that with uttering threats?? I would classify that as a threat. If anyone else said that, it would be perceived as a threat and/or a hostage situation, kinda like a, "We have your children, do what we say or else" situation like you see in the movies.

I'm not a member of the WTS, nor have I ever been, and I certainly never will be, but it's stuff like that that really frightens me. It's hard to believe that a group with so many members - over 6 million - can get away with saying things like that, not to mention the other practices and regulations that kill JWs on a regular basis.

No wonder my mother keeps telling me to break up with my JW boyfriend - these people are seriously SCARY!!

-Becka :)

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Good News

by Genesis in

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friends

hi brothers and sisters (i like this expression :d).

it just to say that yesterday i sent my letter of dissociation and that there is no coming back possible for me.

im out, im free.

Super_Becka

Hey, congratulations on your newfound freedom!! Welcome to the real world!! You've got a lot ahead of you, and lots of fun to catch up on!! I'm glad you got out while you're still young, you've still got your whole life ahead of you!!

Hehehe, and don't worry about being 19 before you finally kissed a girl - I was 19 before I kissed a guy, he was my first boyfriend, and I've never been a JW!!

It's time to start enjoying life!! Thanks for sharing your happy story!!

Best of luck!!

-Becka :)

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Any gamers out there?

by dinah in

hey peeps!

any of you into video games?

seems there would be a few who are because they are some cool people here.

Super_Becka

Yup, I'm a total gamer chick and I have been since I got my NES way back in 1990, when I was 5 years old - BEST CHRISTMAS PRESENT I EVER GOT!! At the moment, I have an old NES, a Nintendo 64, a Nintendo Gamecube, an XBox and a GameBoy Advance SP (the "Retro NES" edition), and I fully intend to get the Nintendo Revolution when it comes out next year, if I have the money for it, so yes, I'm a total gamer geek!! And sorry guys, I might be a die-hard gamer chick and I'm sure that's something you're all looking for in a girl, but I'm already taken by a fellow gamer geek.

Anyway, for recommendations, I'm a HUGE "Resident Evil" fan, I love that franchise, I'm a total survival-horror geek. I just got RE4 this Christmas and I LOVE IT!! If you like survival-horror games, you can't get much better than the RE games. Play alone, in a dark room, with the volume turned up loud for optimal results!!

Also for survival-horror, the "Silent Hill" games on the Playstation are totally awesome, too. I've played all four, and I have to say that SH2 and SH4 are my favourites. They're just creepy, I love 'em!! Different from the RE games, but they're still awesome. And they tend to have multiple endings, so play 'em over and over to see if you can get them all!! And play these games the same way you play RE games for optimal results!!

I'm also a huge "Devil May Cry" fan (PS2) and I love "Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time", though the second Prince of Persia kinda sucked. Haven't played the third one yet, so I'll have to get back to you on that one.

I love the "Legend of Zelda" games for Nintendo, too - I just got into those recently, starting with "Ocarina of Time" and then moving on to "Windwaker" and I'm looking forward to the release of "Twilight Princess" in the spring. Excellent RPG games, and the main character, Link, is really cute, too!!

And I'll play pretty much any first-person shooter game. I was a huge fan of "GoldenEye 64" on the Nintendo 64, and I have "GoldenEye: Rogue Agent" on the Gamecube, too. I also have "The World is Not Enough" on the N64. (Yes, I'm also a huge James Bond fan, I love the movies and the video games!!) I love FPS games, those are totally the best.

And for fighting games, I love the "Soul Calibur" games on the PS2 and the GCN, those are great for parties, get a bunch of guys together and do a round-robin type of game, everyone gets really into those. Lots of yelling and cheering, it's awesome!!

Ooo, and I love the "Max Payne" games, they're available on the PC, XBox and PS2, if I'm correct, and if you like a good rogue cop game, then those are your games!! Lots of guns, lots of shooting, interesting storyline, awesome title character, these games have it all!!

Hmm, that's about all that I can come up with right now. Of course, on my GameBoy Advance SP, I play lots of Mario games, those are classic, and Zelda games, too. I like old school stuff just as much as the new stuff. And I still play my old NES, too!!

Hope that helps!!

-Becka :)

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Assemblies: Were You Always on the Prowl for a Mate?

by prophecor in

it was usually encouraged that we try to remain single somewhere during the assembly, especially the summer conventions.

some of you sisters were so hott with your summer dresses, hair freshly done.

though i went for the obligatory meeting attendance, it was nice to be able to go on a fishing expedition for sisters, if that was your choosing.

Super_Becka

Hmm, I'm not a JW, nor have I ever been, but I did ask my JW boyfriend about something like this once.

I asked him why he hadn't tried looking for a JW girlfriend who would be better suited to his lifestyle (ie, no holidays), and his usual answer was that he never found anyone that he was interested in. He didn't know many JWs in high school and he was a loner anyway.

He said he always checked out the girls at assemblies, though, because they were all JWs and therefore would be well-suited to him. He said he saw a few pretty ones at the assemblies, but in the end, he never found anyone to date there.

Why, you ask, when there were so many pretty, available girls there?? Because despite the fact that he's a JW and refuses to give up the few beliefs that he clings to, he doesn't want a JW girlfriend. Why not?? Because he wouldn't be able to do what he wanted to do with them. He didn't want chaperones on dates. He wanted to be able to get physical. He wanted sex before marriage. And whadda ya know, JWs aren't allowed to do any of these things, so he gave up on dating a fellow JW.

That being said, he still freely admits to cruising the assemblies for girls - after all, what better place to find single, available and attractive sisters??

-Becka :)

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For those with bf or gf who are JW's: How the JW view non JW's

by Check_Your_Premises in

this thread is a quick primer for those who are fairly unfamiliar with the jw, but have found that they are dating someone who is or used to be a jw.

well just to give you a little background on how jw's view the rest of the non-jw world: they basically see you as a bug.

you are worldly and certain to bring their loved one death at the hands of god at armageddon.

Super_Becka

The fate of our relationship lies in her choice of which I am yet to here. I however, can't bring myself to give up on her.

Kristofer, I hear ya. My boyfriend is a JW, and while he isn't active or anything (he's not even baptized, and he hasn't been to his KH in months), he's still stubborn about some of his beliefs, while he conveniently ignores others, so I'm in the same situation you are. I love him, but it's eventually going to come down to his choice between me and "them", and I don't know how that's going to turn out. The worst part is feeling so strongly about him and knowing that it probably won't work out, but being completely unable to just give up on him.

-Becka :)

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For those with bf or gf who are JW's: How the JW view non JW's

by Check_Your_Premises in

this thread is a quick primer for those who are fairly unfamiliar with the jw, but have found that they are dating someone who is or used to be a jw.

well just to give you a little background on how jw's view the rest of the non-jw world: they basically see you as a bug.

you are worldly and certain to bring their loved one death at the hands of god at armageddon.

Super_Becka

DJ2424,

I'm no expert in this particular area - I'm actually dating a JW, too, and I'm here for advice - but I would definitely encourage you to be very careful with this relationship, you don't want to get in over your head, and to stick around the board. There are lots of people here who share similar experiences and can give you some good advice and tips on how to handle this situation.

You've come to the right place.

Welcome to the board!!

-Becka :)

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Toasting AuldSoul

by jst2laws in

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friends

about two minutes ago the announcement was made that auldsoul was "no longer one of jehovah's witnesses".

he and jst2laws one minute ago toasted to celebrate.

please join us.

Super_Becka

Congratulations, AuldSoul!!

That must have been the best thing that anyone has ever said about you, that you're "no longer one of Jehovah's Witnesses"!!

Welcome to the real world!!

Enjoy your freedom, it's a beautiful thing!! Your life is now your own!!

I wish you all the best in your new, WTS-free life!!

-Becka :)

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we have the truth there is no doubt

by PMJ in

jehovahs wittnesses have the truth there is no doubt about i.people can say what they like ut there is no other group of people who bring glory to jehovah

Super_Becka

Ooo, another thread started by a JW who really shouldn't even be here in the first place!! This has certainly been one of the more entertaining threads I've read since I've been here.

But back on topic - PMJ, I'd like for you to answer some of the questions posed here on this board. A few posts back, a member noted that you hadn't answered a single one of them outright. I got into an argument with another JW poster here a while back because I asked him/her to do the same thing, but I'm gonna try again:

Can you please clearly answer the questions that you are being asked by posters on this board?? I'm not looking to argue, I don't want to read more rhetoric or beating around the bush, I just want some straightforward answers to the questions. Please don't try to twist the question around to make a completely different point or make the WTS look good, we just want some answers, that's all. If you truly believe that the WTS has the Truth and is correct in its teachings, than you should have not trouble answering the questions we're asking you. After all, if it's the Truth, what is there to be afraid of?? If you believe in what you've been taught as a JW, then answering these questions should be no trouble at all.

I've found that when it comes to clearly answering straightforward questions, JWs seem to be completely unable to do that without changing the topic or introducing a new idea, or even resorting to insulting other posters and acting in a very condescending manner, much like a bully. Prove me wrong - answer our questions, no more rhetoric. Show me that a JW can simply answer a question in clear, simple terms without getting angry, offended or avoiding the question in general.

Believe me, you'll get more respect and you'll be taken more seriously if you can do this.

Thanks.

-Becka :)

PS: And let's see if you can do this without calling me anything nasty or trying to belittle me. It won't work, you won't offend me and you won't be doing anything for your reputation on this board. I asked nicely, I hope you can answer nicely.

Super_Becka

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