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The Watchtower's view of Christmas

by Jeffro in

there is an article featured on the watchtower official site about how christmas has lost christ.

what exactly is their problem with this?

they have been trying to tell people for years that jesus wasn't born at christmas time, and then they get upset when other people behave the same way.

Super_Becka

If I actually believed any of the BS that the WTS spews on a regular basis and I read that article, two things would come to mind:

1.) What was the context in which US Catholic described the Nativity as nonhistorical??

and more importantly...

2.) WHY THE HELL IS THE WTS USING A CATHOLIC SOURCE TO BACK UP ITS ARGUMENT?!?!?!?!?! Shouldn't the WTS have its OWN sources and research to back up its ideas rather than pulling some quotes from other Christian denomination's publication and using it out of context??

But again, I have my independent thinking and I am free to question anything and everything that I'm told, so I just can't wrap my mind around the fact that JWs just blindly accept all of the poison that spews forth from Brooklyn. It just blows my mind that intelligent people can accept, at face-value, everything that a bunch of decrepid old men in an office in Brooklyn tells them, no matter how often the rules changes. "New Light", my ass.

Ooo, more with the rage here. Sorry if I seem a little pissed off, but I am, I can't help it, this stuff just really irritates me. It's good to have a place to vent it and get some other views on these things. I'm not a hateful person, I don't harbour any ill-will towards JWs themselves, it's their organization that all of my anger and frustration is aimed at. I just think that the JWs are horribly misled.

-Becka :)

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Love Calculator!

by Legolas in

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friends

i think the thing is right!

i did myself and hubby and got 91%!

then i did all my childhood friends, who are now all divorced or are separated and they all scored really low!

Super_Becka

Heh, I tried it out with my current boyfriend, an unbaptized, inactive and yet very stubborn JW (I'm Anglican and very happy with that). Here's what we scored (I removed his name for privacy) :

Becka		****

	26 %

The chance of a relationship working out between Becka and **** is not very big, but a relationship is very well possible, if the two of you really want it to, and are prepared to make some sacrifices for it. You'll have to spend a lot of quality time together. You must be aware of the fact that this relationship might not work out at all, no matter how much time you invest in it.

Hmm, does this seem to make perfect sense to you?? It does to me. I think that the "Love Calculator" somehow knew that he's a JW and I'm not and that it's probably never going to work between us, no matter how happy we are together (current holiday issues notwithstanding). I think that's one smart application. The whole world, even some measly Internet "Love Calculator", thinks that my boyfriend and I are doomed. Sad but true.

-Becka :)

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What are you REALLY like?

by jwfacts in

it is strange chatting on the net, not knowing what everyone is really like.

do you pretend to be someone you are not?

i find it hard to know how to take people here sometimes, as words do not convey as much without seeing the facial expressions and hearing the tonal inflections.

Super_Becka

Ahh, it would appear that people like full physical and mental descriptions on top of the answer to the question posed by jwfacts, so I guess I'll post my own personal description, too:

I'm 20 years old, 5'9" tall, 125lbs, not especially curvy, with long dark brown hair with a natural auburn tint. I have hazel eyes and I wear glasses. I have long thin fingers that are exceptionally good for typing (though I think they look kinda creepy). I'm always wearing jeans and a t-shirt, regardless of the season, and so I tend to be cold most of the time. Heh, and since jwfacts decided to share the fact that he hasn't put on any weight since he was 15, I guess I'll share that I've actually lost close on 15lbs since I was 15, and I'm not much good at putting weight on, either. Call it natural talent, but I can eat anything I want and as much of it as I want, and I rarely, if ever, put on weight, even though I'm pretty much a champion couch-potato, and I've always been like that. And I'm clumsy - it comes from being tall, I'm a little on the tall side for a girl, at least around here, and besides the obvious difficulty with finding clothes to fit, being really uncoordinated and clumsy tends to accompany long, gangly arms and legs and big feet. Some people think my clumsiness is cute and funny, I think it's just annoying - you try getting your fingers caught in damn near anything because they're so long and tripping over everything because your coordination is a little off and your feet are too big!!

Hmm, mentally, I like to think I'm reasonably intelligent and level-headed. I like to know the facts before I make any decisions, hence my registration with this forum, and I'm really good at researching damn near anything. I'm a third-year history student in university with a good solid B average (GPA 3.3), so researching skills come with the territory. I can see things from a rational, reasonable and objective viewpoint, even when I don't particularly like that POV. My friends always come to me for advice on their situations because they know I can be objective about it and I'm a very honest, straightforward person.

I'm also a total nerd - I love books and movies and video games, expecially the violent ones, so I have lots of guy-friends because, let's face it, there aren't many gamer chicks out there, and I'm something of a tomboy, anyway. What do I do for fun on a Saturday night, then?? I curl up in my PJs with a good book or a movie and some popcorn, or if I'm in the mood, I'll pop in a good video game and enjoy some pointless violence for a while. Sounds a little pathetic, I know, but I love it!!

And I'm generally really really shy, always have been, and I'm not much good at just starting up a conversation with a new person. Of course, my silence changes very quickly once I'm comfortable with a new friend, then I'll talk endlessly about damn near anything. I embarrass really easily, though, so even though I'm 20 years old, sex jokes still make me blush, even though I tell a few myself, a fact that all of my friends like to take advantage of. I also blush at compliments, if only because I rarely get them and my brain can't quite process them properly. Maybe those things make me a little immature and childish, but some people find it endearing, or at least I think they do. My boyfriend actually thinks it's cute that mentally, I'm still 12 years old. Hey, you're only young once, but you can be immature forever!! And I think everyone can retain their child-like wonder - it is possible to be child-like without being childish.

But of course, that kinda works for me, the 12-year-old mentality thing, because physically, I really don't look a hell of a lot different from when I was 12 - I even wear the same clothing size!! My best friend always teases me that I still look exactly the same as I did when she first met me, way back in the seventh grade when we were both 12 years old. I tell her to laugh all she wants - it won't be so funny when we're both 40 and I still look like I'm 12.

So, in a nutshell, that's pretty much me. Maybe I'll post a picture for my avatar sometime.

-Becka :)

16

I've learned that . . .

by Steve Lowry in

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someone gave me a little book many years ago that was nothing but one-line sentences, starting with the words, "i've learned that .

" and followed by the age of the author.

some of these little sentences were hilarious such as; " i've learned that if i turn my ice cream cone upside down, i don't have an ice cream cone anymore.

Super_Becka

Ooo, and I found a few more that I thought you guys might enjoy:

As I've Matured...

I've learned that you cannot make someone love you. All you can do is stalk them and hope they panic and give in...

I've learned that one good turn gets most of the blankets.

I've learned that no matter how much I care, some people are just jackasses.

I've learned that it takes years to build up trust, and it only takes suspicion, not proof, to destroy it.

I've learned that whatever hits the fan will not be evenly distributed.

I've learned that you shouldn't compare yourself to others - they are more screwed up than you think.

I've learned that depression is merely anger without enthusiasm.

I've learned that it is not what you wear; it is how you take it off.

I've learned that you can keep vomiting long after you think you're finished.

I've learned to not sweat the petty things, and not pet the sweaty things.

I've learned that ex's are like fungus, and keep coming back.

I've learned age is a very high price to pay for maturity.

I've learned that I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy it.

I've learned that we are responsible for what we do, unless we are celebrities.

I've learned that artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity.

I've learned that 99% of the time when something isn't working in your house, one of your kids did it

I've learned that there is a fine line between genius and insanity.

I've learned that the people you care most about in life are taken from you too soon and all the less important ones just never go away. And the real pains in the ass are permanent.

-Becka :)

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I've learned that . . .

by Steve Lowry in

jw
friends

someone gave me a little book many years ago that was nothing but one-line sentences, starting with the words, "i've learned that .

" and followed by the age of the author.

some of these little sentences were hilarious such as; " i've learned that if i turn my ice cream cone upside down, i don't have an ice cream cone anymore.

Super_Becka

Here's something a friend of mine sent me a while back. It has a bunch of "I've learned..." bits to it. Enjoy!!

Somewhere between the *procrastination* and the homework.. and the incessant forwards and the friendships and the calls to each other complaining about CrUsHeS and BF/GF!! Somewhere between the phone calls to old
friends and the "I miss you's", the "I love you's" and
the "What are we doing tonight's?" And somewherebetween all of the changing and growing...
somewhere between the classes and the skipping
classes...and the StUdYiNg for teStS...And thePRETENDING to "StUdY" for TeStS...
And the downright NOT StUdYiNg for TeStS...
I forgot--I forgot what ScHooL was all about.

Somewhere between all the appointments, starbuck coffee, and Mc Donald's... paying bills and then not paying bills...Making plans then breaking plans... Appearing, Disappearing,
then reappearing... I forgot--I forgot what it was like to cry. I forgot that pretending to be happy doesn't make you happy... And that pretending to
be SmArT doesn't make you smart .. I forgot that you can't just forget the past infear of the FUTURE... I forgot that you
can't control falling in LoVe..
And that you can't make yourself in *LoVe*.... I learned that I can LOVE... I learned that it's okay to MEsS UP....
And it's okay to ask for HELP!!!.. And it's okay to feel like crap... I learned it's okay to cOmPLaiNand wHINe to all your friends for a whole day........
I learned that sometimes the things you wantmost you just can't have and the things that you look for are right in front of you.I learned that the greatest thing about HiGh ScHOoL and CoLLeGe and the working worldit isn't about the parties or the DRiNKiNG or the Hookups ...

It's the *FrIeNdShIpS*, which means taking chances.
I learned that sometimes the things we want to forget are the things which we most need to talk about...
I learned that TIME and LOVEcan heal all things...
I learned that just when you think it can't get worse - it does! ...
but with the love and support of friends - you survive...
I've learned that when you start feeling BaD about L O S I N G touch and about those that you've lost!
They too, are feeling the same way....

I learned that letters from friends are the most important things. And that sending cards to your friends makes you feel better! But, basically, I just learned
that my friends........ Both old and new..... are the most important
people to me in the world AND.......without them, I wouldn't be whoI am today.....

-Becka :)

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What are you REALLY like?

by jwfacts in

it is strange chatting on the net, not knowing what everyone is really like.

do you pretend to be someone you are not?

i find it hard to know how to take people here sometimes, as words do not convey as much without seeing the facial expressions and hearing the tonal inflections.

Super_Becka

I haven't been here very long and I don't have a hell of a lot of posts just yet, but I am what I write. What you see is what you get. Maybe that's just because I'm a terrible liar and I tend to be compulsively honest. Call it a character flaw.

And besides, how can I expect to get some help and advice when I need it here if I'm not honest?? The people here need the real deal if they're going to comment and I'm going to be able to use those comments, so why would I lie?? It'd be completely pointless for me to post some questions here if I wasn't honest.

And on top of that, I'll answer pretty much anything about myself. If there's anything you want to know, just ask and you'll get an honest answer. Try that in person, and I'm very shy, but in writing, not so much.

How's that??

-Becka :)

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The Watchtower's view of Christmas

by Jeffro in

there is an article featured on the watchtower official site about how christmas has lost christ.

what exactly is their problem with this?

they have been trying to tell people for years that jesus wasn't born at christmas time, and then they get upset when other people behave the same way.

Super_Becka

I don't know about anyone else here, but I read that article and I didn't see any good reasoning in it as to why "Christians" shouldn't celebrate Christmas. I saw lots of questions and pointing out of the various "hassles" of Christmas, like decorating and parties, but I didn't see anything that specifically said, "Christmas is evil, good people don't celebrate it".

I think that the WTS is just trying to keep its members in line and away from anything that ressembles mainstream Christianity. You'd think that if all JWs believed everything that the WTS said and that these things made sense, then the WTS wouldn't need to keep posting articles that dissect Christmas without really saying anything against it. Sure, lots of people get annoyed at the last-minute Christmas shopping, lots of people get tired of going to those awkward Christmas parties where you have to mingle with all of the people you're forced to spend 40 hours a week with anyway, lots of people are sick of the incessant advertising and consumerism of Christmas, so for me, these things don't make good arguments against Christmas in general. I mean, really, if you don't like these things, you don't have to do them - nobody is going to force you to go to that office Christmas party, and if you really like giving gifts for Christmas (I know I do!!), you can avoid the rush by starting your shopping early. After all, if the WTS is going to complain about the selling of things related to Christmas and the notion that Christmas is "forced" on everyone, then maybe they should look at their own practices and STOP FORCING THEIR BELIEFS ON US AND TRYING TO SELL US THEIR DAMNED MAGAZINES!!

And of course, if they don't believe in Christmas and think that it's inherently evil, when WHY THE HELL ARE THEY STILL RAGGING ON IT?!?! Can't the WTS and its GB and whoever else just GET OVER THEMSELVES and get used to the fact that the rest of the Christian world can actually enjoy their faith and celebrate it and let the holier-than-thou JWs get on with that oh-so-much-fun field service and 5 hours of meetings a week?? STAY OUT OF MY LIFE, I'M HAPPY WITH MY FAITH!! Excuse me while I head off to church for the Christmas Eve service and hymn sing. (Ahh, gotta love church, it's the one place that the JWs can't get you - after all, won't they "die at Armageddon" if they go to a real church service?? )

Ooo, sorry about the mild outburst, it's just that the WTS frustrates me sometimes, their arguments make no sense to me (maybe that's because I have my free will and independent thinking still intact, my faith hasn't robbed me of those things), and it's even worse that my inactive-JW boyfriend echoes the same arguments as the WTS for not practicing Christmas - "it's everywhere and it's all about buying things". Argh, I can't stand how this organization puts a twist on everything to make it look bad. *pulls hair in frustration* I think that they just don't like it when people actually have some FUN!!

-Becka :)

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A question for all the new ones

by Lady Lee in

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friends

what made you decide to post?.

i know some lurk for a while - sometimes a long while.

others find the site and do a bit of reading and sign and post immediately.

Super_Becka

Aha, the first reply, it's kinda nice.

Anyway, what made me sign up and start posting?? Well, being the "worldly" girlfriend of an unbaptized and very inactive JW (you'd think that would make things easier, but it doesn't), I'd been lurking around this forum for a while in my clandestine research (I research in private because it offends my boyfriend that I'm learning the truth about "the Truth" ), and when I finally got up the nerve to do it, I signed up and posted right away. I needed some advice, someone to talk to about my situation and someone to share some experiences with me, and this seemed like the place to get all of that. I was right.

Best thing I ever did, too, signing up here and posting. The board is full of helpful, caring people who aren't afraid to tell it like it is but still lend a shoulder to cry on when it's needed. Not to mention the wealth of knowledge that's floating around the board, it's just great. Thanks guys!!

-Becka :)

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Nowhere else to go

by joelbear in

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friends

there is really nowhere else for me to post about what goes on inside me.

i know that my problems aren't all because i was a witness.

the agony in my mind has led me to a psychiatrist.. he has diagnosed me with cyclothymic mood disorder, a milder form.

Super_Becka

joelbear, please don't give up, you're an incredible person and the world would be a much sadder and lonelier place without you. A friend of mine sent me this a while back and I thought it was fitting. Read it, believe it.

-Becka :)

15 Things You Probably

Never Knew or Thought About

1. At least 5 people in this world love you so much they would die for you.

2. At least 15 people in this world love you in some way.

3. The only reason anyone would ever hate you is because they want to be just like you.

4. A smile from you can bring happiness to anyone, even if they don't like you.

5. Every night, SOMEONE thinks about you before they go to sleep.

6. You mean the world to someone.

7. If not for you, someone may not be living.

8. You are special and unique.

9. Someone that you don't even know exists loves you.

10. When you make the biggest mistake ever, something good comes from it.

11. When you think the world has turned its back on you, take a look: you most likely turned your back on the world.

12. When you think you have no chance of getting what you want, you probably won't get it, but if you believe in yourself, probably, sooner or later, you will get it.

13. Always remember the compliments you received. Forget about the rude remarks.

14. Always tell someone how you feel about them; you will feel much better when they know.

15. If you have a great friend, take the time to let them know that they are great.

A Minute

They say it takes a minute to find a special person, an hour to appreciate them, a day to love them, but then an entire life to forget them.

Take the time... to live and love.

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Nowhere else to go

by joelbear in

jw
friends

there is really nowhere else for me to post about what goes on inside me.

i know that my problems aren't all because i was a witness.

the agony in my mind has led me to a psychiatrist.. he has diagnosed me with cyclothymic mood disorder, a milder form.

Super_Becka

joelbear, I hope you can find the strength to get through this. I know it seems bad right now, but you have to believe that things will get better. There are lots of treatments out there and if the lithium doesn't work, I'm sure there are other options for you.

The key is to be strong and believe that things will get better. I know that's hard, sometimes I have a hard time believing that myself, but it's true - when you've hit rock-bottom, there's nowhere left to go but up, right?? I know you're feeling really low right now, but believe me, things can only get better from here.

You can be strong, you can get through this, I know you can.

And if you need to rant, hey, that's what we're all here for, and we'd love to help you get through this.

Hang in there!!

-Becka :)

Super_Becka

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