The Roman alphabet originated in Sumeria and ended up with the Romans in pre-Christian (pagan) times all-the-while evolving into the alphabet we use today. Isn't ironic that most believers in the Western world have to read the Bible in a pagan alphabet? CPiolo
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Do you use anything with pagan origins?
by pennycandy ini'm conversing with a jw about the "pagan origin" issue.
i'm familiar with the fact that the names of the months and days of the week, wedding rings, and baptism all have pagan origins and are accepted for use by jw's.
can you guys think of anything else that jw's partake of or accept or use that has questionable origins?
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Wanting to talk to AlanF
by CPiolo inalan or anyone else who might help,.
i see you haven't posted in a while, but i wanted to speak by phone or privately through e-mail.
could you provide me your e-mail address and/or phone number and a convenient time to contact you?.
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e-mail sent.
Thanks Farkel.
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Wanting to talk to AlanF
by CPiolo inalan or anyone else who might help,.
i see you haven't posted in a while, but i wanted to speak by phone or privately through e-mail.
could you provide me your e-mail address and/or phone number and a convenient time to contact you?.
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CPiolo
oops, forgot my addy -- cpiolo "at" hotmail.com
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Wanting to talk to AlanF
by CPiolo inalan or anyone else who might help,.
i see you haven't posted in a while, but i wanted to speak by phone or privately through e-mail.
could you provide me your e-mail address and/or phone number and a convenient time to contact you?.
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CPiolo
Alan or anyone else who might help,
I see you haven't posted in a while, but I wanted to speak by phone or privately through e-mail. Could you provide me your e-mail address and/or phone number and a convenient time to contact you?
Thanks,
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Talked w/a JW Yesterday - So glad I'm out
by Seeker4 init's been quite a while since i've written anything here, maybe a couple of years.
some may remember me, seeker4, from the old h2o, or the early years of this one.
i was a jw for about 35 years, ms, elder for about 15, pioneer, all of it.
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CPiolo
Seeker4: I have had the same formatting problem. I don't know what system or browser you're using, but I think that may be the problem. The scripts the site uses to format text seems to be incompatible with some browser and/or operating systems. A good argument for using web standards Simon! I am on a Mac and perhaps you are too as they are prevalent in the publishing business. It was good to hear from one of the old-timers from back in the H2O days. I rarely post anymore but do stop by and read posts now and then. For those of you who don't remember me, I am a non-witness married to a die hard witness woman (reads only Witness publications, listens almost exclusively to Witness music and now thanks to the advent of technology, listens to the pubs in the car in audio format) who returned to the nest, so to speak, many years after leaving and after we had married. CPiolo P.S. This post will probably lose its paragraph formatting for the reasons above.
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JW friend is now JW bf, help.
by am3thy5t ini have a friend whos a jw and last october we started to hang out together (just us two).
everything was fine, we'd talk, watch movies etc.
then i started to feel different towards him, i started to like him.
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CPiolo
am3thy5t Let me join the chorus here and advise you against any sort of romantic relationship with a JW if you are not a member of the faith. I am a nonJW married to a JW. Just like the previous posters, this has caused an enormous amount of stress, conflict, anguish and heartbreak. Let me list some of the conflicts you can expect. The JW in your life will NOT Celebrate any holidays or birthdays with you, your friends and family. Want to spend much time with those not of the faith (in other words, all your friends and family). Agree about life-saving medical treatments for themselves and any children produced by the union. Agree to any religious education or services other than that provided by the JWs. View you as a spiritually equal person unless you convert to their faith (not recommended). These may not seem like much, but believe me, things you once took for granted and hardly gave a thought to become sources for contention, conflict and argument. You soon find yourself biting your tongue and withholding comment for the sake of maintaining peace. But each time you do, you lose a little bit of yourself, your freedom and your relationship with the JW. Things progress until there's not much left but small talk. Your initial dreams of love and happiness have evaporated and you long for a place and for people with whom you can just be yourself. You've lost your personal freedom and a healthy environment for both personal growth and growth within the relationship. I don't recommend it. But, you're young and may not heed the advice offered here. I didn't when I was your age. So, if you do end up pursuing a relationship with this boy and things begin to go as I described, please remember this place and the people here. They will offer you solace and advice when you need it. It was a refuge for me when I first confronted my situation. I wish you all the best. Peace and prosperity, CPiolo
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Bill Maher on Larry King last night
by Mulan inbecause you'd think these people would notice that jesus christ never said one word about homosexuality.
maher: i do have faith.
i believe there is a god.
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CPiolo
Another religion quote when discussing the movie "The Passion of the Christ": MAHER: "...I think religion is a neurological disorder. And so I think anyone who believes in this stuff is -- you know, it's like -- when you're a kid, anything they drill into your brain. The analogy I make is when I was a kid, they drilled religion into my brain. They also put mercury into my teeth. When I got to be an adult, I found out mercury was bad. I had it drilled out. I would do the same with religion." CPiolo
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Is Charity Utterly Incomprehensible to Them? (Dec. 1, Wt)
by metatron inonce upon a time, monty python had a sketch in which john clease portrayed.
a businessman approached for a contribution to feed starving orphans.
he appeared.
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CPiolo
Some charitable acts by Christendom and non-Christian faiths (offered mostly for free or on a sliding scale according to one's ability to pay):
Homework help for children
After school care and programs for working families
Counseling of various sorts -- marriage, psychological, career, education, alcohol and drug abuse, etc.
Food for the poor and the hungry -- by distributing foodstuffs and through soup kitchens
Medical and dental care
Clothing
Battered women's shelters
Homeless shelters
College and educational scholarships
Meal delivery programs for the elderly and infirm
Hospital visitation
Hospice care
Rehabilitation programs for the disabled
Job training
Orphanages
Political advocacy for the disenfranchised
There is more. Add to the list.
All this occurs in addition to whatever proselytizing, missionary work and literature distribution they may do. Most don't require one to be a member of the particular church/faith -- all in need are cared for. -
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Apple Computers
by toddy indoes anybody have opinions on apple mac computers,im thinking of getting one of those imac g4's
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I work on Macs daily and have for years. The problems I've have been minimal when compared to Windows users in the same offices. The new G5s are beautiful machines and no one I know who uses them has a complaint. Mac has also just released a new version of their operating sytem OSX (the X stands for the number 10). The system is Unix based and is by far the most stable operating platform I've used on a PC. All that being said, there are advantages and disadvantages to Mac.
Advantages:
Beautiful Industrial Design (this may not matter to a vast majority of people I admit)
Excellent Graphics
Dependable (in spite of what the previous poster said)
Fantastic and rock solid OS
Less susceptible to viruses (most viruses are written for Windows)
Standard models tend to be better equiped than Windows machines (although this seems to be quickly changing and you can configure a Windows machine equally with little hassle)
Comes with a lot of excellent free software -- iMovie (to edit video), iChat (multimedia chatting software), Mail (e-mail), iPhoto (photo editing and catologing), iDVD (for creating DVDs), iCal (calendar and scheduling), iTunes (MP3 and CD burning, now available for Windows), Safari (web browser), and often others. For example the machine I use at work came bundled with OmniGraffle (diagraming software), OmniOuliner, and QuickBooks (financial software).
Disadvantages:
Expensive
Did I say Expensive (Prices have dropped, but a similar Windows machine is still less expensive)
Less software (Much of this depends on what you will use the machine for. I've never lacked for software in my area - graphics.)
In the minority (Macs are less than 10% of PC users). This can be a problem if you work or share files with Windows users, depending again upon what you're working on.
In the end, it comes out to personal preference and what's important to you personally. There are unending debates at to which operating system is best (a lot like debating religion). I personally think the Mac OS is better and more intuitive, although the new OS is less intuitive than previously, but has been progressively narrowing the gap with each new iteration. The trade off has been more stability (i.e. dedicated memory that crashes only the program you're working and not the whole system) and more room for expansion. They had pushed the old OS as far as it could go.
My advice would be to carefully consider what you're going to use the machine for, what your budget is, and to thoroughly research all your options.
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Halloween after leaving the JW's
by TresHappy inwhen i was a kid, we did halloween every year.
no big deal, just costumes and trick or treating, but that was the 70's.
when i was 11 we stopped celebrating everything, and several years ago i left the jw's.
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Halloween actually isn't occult, unless you mean anything not Christian is occult. My JW wife has the same impression -- it's all about witchcraft, sorcery, and the devil. But isn't that the whole world outside Dubville? See here for a good synopsis of the Halloween tradition and its roots. (http://www.secweb.org/asset.asp?AssetID=322) CPiolo