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  Things That Can't Be Reconciled by a Loving God

  by Black Man in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my list:.

  (1) mass genocide.

  (2) slavery.

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  oppression of women.

  abuse of children.
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  Will the new system be uncrowded?

  by M.J. in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was talking to an elder yesterday about how enjoyable it is to get away from civilization in remote wilderness areas, unlike the circus you see at places like yosemite natl.

  park in california.

  with dreamy eyes he mentioned how great it will be in the "new system", when "we can enjoy uncrowded conditions.".

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  Hi existentialist,

  Welcome to the forum.
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  What was YOUR childhood dream?

  by Golf in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  being a professional baseball player.

  i ended up being a professional golfer and teacher, one of the few hats i wear.

  as a kid i lived for sports everything else was secondary, i love competition, in competition winning and losing is part of the game, it's a given.

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  Gumby, sounds like your dream is to be a geriatric lothario.
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  What new or not so new song(s) got your attention lately?

  by JH in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  bad day by daniel powter where is the moment we need at the most you kick up the leaves and the magic is lost they tell me your blue skies fade to grey they tell me your passion's gone away and i don't need no carryin' on

  you stand in the line just to hit a new low you're faking a smile with the coffee to go you tell me your life's been way off line you're falling to pieces everytime and i don't need no carryin' on

  so where is the passion when you need it the most oh you and i you kick up the leaves and the magic is lost

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  Ok, at the risk of looking silly and shallow: Black-eyed Peas "My Humps". My 16 year old daughter is mortified that I like this song. I've told her my inner teen is surfacing.
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  When you were a witness, did you ever feel that you were persecuted?

  by MsMcDucket in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  from what going on with my daughters, i'd say they are the ones that's trying to persecute me.

  their actions are making me want to take repercussions against them (take my car back, phone, etc...).

  i'm sure if and when i do these things they will say that they are being persecuted.

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  I was frequently taunted by kids from age 9-13. I loved to argue scriptural points with them because most of the kids couldn't support their beliefs from the Bible, while I could quote scriptures left and right. I brought a lot of attention to myself because I was a know-it-all and I told the kids they'd be destroyed at Armageddon.

  When I was in the 4th grade, I would bring tracts to school. Evidently someone complained because the Vice principal called me to his office and told me to quit doing that. "If we let one religion distribute tracts, all religions will want to distribute tracts and that would disrupt school." Evidently, he told the teachers to watch me. One day, I was going to take my Bible to lunch and the teacher told me to put it away. I said, "I can't read my Bible at lunch?" She said no. I told my Mom, who did nothing about it. Good thing she wasn't a zealous JW who wanted to fight over this.
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  Shocking News!

  by Blueblades in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  what was the most shocking news you have ever heard ?.

  for example: jfk assassinated in dallas!.

  elvis found dead in bathroom!.

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  The discovery that I had a half-sister, who had been passed of as a cousin. Made me realize that my self-righteous mother hadn't always been so righteous.

  Some friends ended up in a car accident, with long recuperations for injuries sustained after being thrown from the car. I was shocked because they survived.

  I had a good shock when I got my grades after my first semester in college - I made the dean's list and was so happy! That made me eligible for some honor society that I don't even remember the name of now.

  My mother hid the extent of my father's illness from us, so we didn't realize until the day before how close to death he was. He died the next day. This may have been the biggest shock of my life so far.

  Getting df'd. I had always thought that a person would be df'd for being unrepentent. Silly me. The elders in that congregation obviously could df people because "you should have known better" and "you waited so long to tell us." I was not as shocked when the decision was upheld upon appeal.

  As far as world events:

  Nixon's impeachment shocked me, as a child and made me realize politicians can't be trusted.

  9/11 was shocking and I realized the world has changed forever and we would lose freedom. I had such a visceral, instinctive reaction that I had to leave work and come home to relative safety to be with my daughter.

  The Berlin Wall was a shock. I was a new mother at the time, and in my sleep-deprived state, I thought Armageddon would come sooner.

  The tsunami was very sad. Katrina and the New Orleans situation made me mad because it was preventable.
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  What was YOUR childhood dream?

  by Golf in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  being a professional baseball player.

  i ended up being a professional golfer and teacher, one of the few hats i wear.

  as a kid i lived for sports everything else was secondary, i love competition, in competition winning and losing is part of the game, it's a given.

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  My childhood dream was to be loved. That's still a dream.
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  D'Fing and Love

  by I-CH-TH-U-S in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i once talked to a jw about disfellowshipping and was curious to how can this be showing a christly love when you all out turn your back on them.

  he gave me an answer about rightousness and unrightrousness having no fellowship (which is biblical) but it didnt make sense to me.

  didnt seem applicable in many ways.

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  Hi Cognitive_dissident,

  I agree with the comment that it's dishonest that JWs don't make full disclosure to their studies. Why is that? I think most realize that info would chase people away and no one would want to be a JW.
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  D'Fing and Love

  by I-CH-TH-U-S in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i once talked to a jw about disfellowshipping and was curious to how can this be showing a christly love when you all out turn your back on them.

  he gave me an answer about rightousness and unrightrousness having no fellowship (which is biblical) but it didnt make sense to me.

  didnt seem applicable in many ways.

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  Anewme said: ...or the serious sin is discovered to have been over a period of time and committed many times, sometimes the brothers have no recourse but to disfellowship the sinner.

  I've found no scriptural support for this statement. The only scriptural support is to remove unrepentent sinners or those who deny Christ. A major problem with df'ing is the involvement of the elders on a JC. They have to make a judgment as to whether a person is repentent and they have to follow WTS guidelines that are questionable (2 witnesses?). IF one elder disagrees, he's encouraged to go along with the others. I'd rather leave it to individuals in the congregation to mark a shady character rather than have a JC that reproves or df', withholds privileges and then reinstates- each with a WTS-defined process that's subject to abuses of power and whims of imperfect men.
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  Wifely Submission?!

  by freedomlover in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  okay, what i want to know is honestly how many of you guys out there were actually attracted to the jw's because of the wifely submission thing?

  and girls, how many of you actually had issues with the submission thing even when in the org.

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  I'm not a submissive person and this was a major roadblock for me to consider marrying a JW.