Hi Intuition,
Welcome to the forum!
why just because i am dfed (march) can my family and all the friends ive ever known tell me i am dead to them?.
why have i missed two important family weddings and been told i ruined them coz everyone was upset?.
why if ihave tried to please them and tried once to get reinstated and now finally felt i have to be true to myself have i caused such pain all over again?.
Hi Intuition,
Welcome to the forum!
Hi Force,
Welcome to the forum. I can empathize with you. Most people who become JW's go overboard at first. I know my parents did. I think if you talk to her and tell her how unhappy you are, and suggest some compromises, you may get a little more freedom. Talk to some of the kids at the Kingdom Hall and find out which mother or parents are the most liberal and ask them to talk to your mother. Don't be ashamed to play on their sympathies and talk about how hopeless you feel. Many JW parents are not as strict as what is portrayed in the pages of WT publications. I know I'm not.
there is really nowhere else for me to post about what goes on inside me.
i know that my problems aren't all because i was a witness.
the agony in my mind has led me to a psychiatrist.. he has diagnosed me with cyclothymic mood disorder, a milder form.
(((Joelbear))). Please give your medication some time and if it doesn't work so well, please keep working with your doctor to find something that can work. I know you'll find something that works with your chemistry.
It's a good thing that you're making a list of things to accomplish. Please update that list periodically and focus on all that you CAN do. Please try not to think so much about how you can't go on. Thoughts are very powerful. And if you're a believer, prayer may help. Please take it easy and take good care of yourself.
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as a jehovah's witness did you ever have a personal relationship with god?.
evanescence
Defd,
You may think that a JW would always say that s/he has a relationship with God. Evidently, the WTS realizes that people have a problem with that. I remember a WT or Awake article that mentioned that some people had bad relationships with their fathers, so they have a hard time desiring or developing a relationship with God. The WTS also published the "Draw Close to Jehovah" book, which is an outstanding publication. It's a problem for JWs.
Evanescence,
When I was a serious JW, I feared God, so I tried to keep His commandments. It wasn't until I became a disillusioned JW, trying to make sense of what I was experiencing and not experiencing, that caused me to turn to Him and rely on Him, more out of desperation and almost as a last resort. It's just been in the past few years that I've developed a semblance of a relationship and I turn to God for guidance much more quickly. Coincidentally, I'm more at peace as well, as Phillipians 2 promises.
if you are a loser who doesn't know god....but you would like to, and you haven't conformed your life to him, nor fear him yet because you don't know him ....he doesn't listen to you.
you must conform first.....then he'll listen.. below are various quotes from the society.. watchtower, may 15, 1990, pp.11-12 fear jehovah, the hearer of prayerfear jehovah, the hearer of prayer.
a restricted privilege.
This is one of many areas where the WTS presumptuously speaks for God. How dare they do that!
I've been on the verge of suicide a few times. I prayed for help and here I am today. I choose to believe God answered those prayers.
i've never posted anything on the net before.
just want to see if it works.
i left the wts in '73 - just couldn't wait those extra two years.
Hi wombat, welcome to the forum!
hi all, this post comes from the e-watchman site, when i get the mags, i will post further.. http://e-jehovahs-witnesses.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=433.
the following is taken from the watchtower of january 15, 2006, page 23 under the heading 'resist the foremost apostate': .
'because of listening to the devil and not rejecting his lies, the first human pair apostatized.
In our cong, we only had 2 people baptized this year, both kids of JWs. Last year I think there was only 1 person. My congregation is growing, but it's because JWs are moving into the area. I think JWs are just shifting around a bit. The attendance at Sunday meetings is by far the largest at 100-110% of publishers, with a significant number leaving after the public talk. I don't think attendance is the best way to gauge losses. I believe Brooklyn has lost control of many JWs and though they have the butts in seats, they no longer have control of the minds and lives.
i was 2500 miles away from any jw i knew.
i'm in the public library and i pick out ray franz's book "crisis of conscience".
i was immediatly enthralled by it, but totally paranoid i'd get caught !!
Along those same lines, I was at the library looking up the Franz book in the online card catalog which is in the middle of the library along the main walkway. I had one eye on the screen and one eye on my surroundings cuz I didn't want to get busted. As it turns out, it's not at the library. I was going to check on some other "apostate" books, but lost my courage.
Another time as I drove into the supermarket parking lot with a 'worldly' ex-boyfriend, I noticed my PO loading groceries. I whipped in beside an SUV, which obscured my smaller car, and watched the PO from a distance to ensure he'd left before I would even get out of the car.
ok, this is something that i've been wondering about for a while now, so i figured i'd ask my favourite jw forum about it.
of course, it wouldn't surprise me if nobody has even considered this, but it's worth a shot to ask.. does the wts have any doctrine against theatre and film, other than the generic "don't watch anything with an r-rating"??.
my reason for asking this is as follows:.
Wasanelder said: Acting is something that can bring honor to God, that's why we see such superior productions at the District Conventions. (not for the last five years for me)
Absence makes the heart grow fonder?
i once talked to a jw about disfellowshipping and was curious to how can this be showing a christly love when you all out turn your back on them.
he gave me an answer about rightousness and unrightrousness having no fellowship (which is biblical) but it didnt make sense to me.
didnt seem applicable in many ways.
Hi bythesea,
I can definitely relate. I had a similar experience with the elders/JC who told me that though I was repentent, they were still going to df me because I should have known better than to fornicate. Up until that time I was supportive of the WTS, and just blamed myself for my failings. The experience with the JC opened my eyes and I knew that there were major problems with org. policies. It destroyed my confidence in them and allowed me to realize that they weren't spirit-directed as they like to claim and were just mere mortal men.