Dear Lawrence,
I did a google search on your daughter as I have not heard of your story in Australia.
I'd like to support you in your fight against the org, if you set up the paypal account that would be the best way for me to send a donation.
i need your help to continue my lawsuit against the watchtower society and the doctor who the watchtower society arranged for to give my daughter arsenic.
the wts lawyer, hlc members and the doctor deceived bethany and lied to her, convincing her that arsenic would cure her.
bethany was convinced that arsenic could cure her and was curing her.
Dear Lawrence,
I did a google search on your daughter as I have not heard of your story in Australia.
I'd like to support you in your fight against the org, if you set up the paypal account that would be the best way for me to send a donation.
the big to me is what about jehovah.
after years of calling out to jah, literally, i start to wonder whether jah really helps me or rather it's just a type of mantra.
i have started thinking that i have to look after myself.
yep that was something that confused me growing up a jw.
how jehovah could let terrible things happen, even to his chosen people, eg, witnesses in german concentration camps. my parents said that it was because he was resting in the 7th day. Yet when an example might be given at a meeting of how he had protected his people there was no mention of him resting.
didn't add up for me.
best wishes
D
hi browe, and welcome.
stick around, it's a great place to share, support and be supported.
best wishes
D
confessions of a "theocratic liar.
may 16th 1965. hampstead gardens primary school.
adelaide.
my parents and grandparents on both sides were witnesses. it's hard to pinpoint a time when it's all you knew. I always knew we were different, but I thought we were special.
sitting in a freezing cold school corridor aged five onwards while the rest of the class had scripture classes was one of my first lessons in being different.
this is my first posting on jwd!
i wrote out my disassociation letter.
i am sending many in the congregation copies of my letters exposing the fine "elders".
welcome to the forum.
best wishes for the future
D
by now, i realize there are a couple of good movies that help to understand the situation a jw finds himself in, once he finds out the truth about "the truth".
like: the village, the island, stepford wifes.
i find that these movies help me to understand the situation of being trapped in a cult and the mixed emotions about finding out and the courage and strenght needed to leave.
I really enjoyed the truman show and the island, and yes the similarities to discovering the truth about the org is thought provoking.
other movies that remind me of the jw experience..............
how about dumb and dumber?!..............jk..................(although I do love that movie!)
Best wishes
D
i offer you a few recent musings, to consider.
i'm not trying to make statements of facts or argue for a set of beliefs, or anything of the sort.
i guess i'd just really like to discuss the subject of the mind without getting entrenched positions on the various subjects surrounding it.
To be sure, all men have faith. Unbelievers have faith as well as believers. But that is due to the fact that they too are creatures of God. Faith therefore always has content. It is against the content of faith as belief in God that man has become an unbeliever. As such he tries to suppress the content of his original faith.... And thus there is no foundation for man's knowledge of himself or of the world at all.... When this faith turns into unbelief this unbelief cannot succeed in suppressing fully the original faith in God. Man as man is inherently and inescapably a believer in God. Thus he can contribute to true knowledge in the universe (The Defense of the Faith, pp.385-386).
can't argue with that
For this reason some folks remain in a state of "doubt", even while they maintain certain claims.
I've seen that with my parents and the org.
Numbed of it's outlet, the ego feeds itself, resulting in holistic harmIn what way would the ego feed itself?
i offer you a few recent musings, to consider.
i'm not trying to make statements of facts or argue for a set of beliefs, or anything of the sort.
i guess i'd just really like to discuss the subject of the mind without getting entrenched positions on the various subjects surrounding it.
I'm posting this again because for some reason it didn't go to the end of the threads.
So i just got back from dropping my kids off at the beach for a surf. Beautiful morning, it got me thinking about times when I've gone to church and had that sense of joy, but I also get that same feeling when walking along the beach.
Nothing mystical. It's just a book of rules, some cards, and a random element to shake them up. Could as easily be Yahtzee dice or patterns of ice cream drippings.
so, does that feeling come from within, or is there something more contributing to it.
nothing mystical?!, is prayer interchangable with meditation?
i offer you a few recent musings, to consider.
i'm not trying to make statements of facts or argue for a set of beliefs, or anything of the sort.
i guess i'd just really like to discuss the subject of the mind without getting entrenched positions on the various subjects surrounding it.
So i just got back from dropping my kids off at the beach for a surf. Beautiful morning, it got me thinking about times when I've gone to church and had that sense of joy, but I also get that same feeling when walking along the beach.
Nothing mystical. It's just a book of rules, some cards, and a random element to shake them up. Could as easily be Yahtzee dice or patterns of ice cream drippings.
so, does that feeling come from within, or is there something more contributing to it.
nothing mystical?!, is prayer interchangable with meditation?
i offer you a few recent musings, to consider.
i'm not trying to make statements of facts or argue for a set of beliefs, or anything of the sort.
i guess i'd just really like to discuss the subject of the mind without getting entrenched positions on the various subjects surrounding it.
g'morning!
So some are saying that the sub/unconscious mind has an innate sense of right............
surely not cast in concrete. what about those diabetics who can't tell that their blood sugar is dropping, what about those who commit atrocities, are they listening to their subconscious or conscious mind.
Dave, my sister reads the tarot cards. she's in the gulf. last week they wanted to go see the world cup (footballo/soccer), in bahrain, she was a little scared of terrorism, asked the tarot whether they should go. They were so happy to see the aussies beat bahrain. had a great time and were treated well by the bahrainies.
On the way back to their place, they were caught up in a terrorist attack on the oil refinery next to their compound. they witnessed shooting, took refuge in the police station for two hours, their kids were terrified.
so did the tarot's give correct information, they were not hurt physically after all. She's not fazed by it all, yet. it only happened a few days ago........
ooh, the cards may be useful in determining new light!