No, I don't see a reason to make it illegal. I think it is stupid, but I think the same thing about those a**holes in the kiosks at the mall who always want "30 seconds of my time" to sell me the "chopper" or a nail buffer, or some other junk. Yeah, it is different than someone coming to my house and selling me shite, but how is it different than girl scouts selling cookies? I'm not interested in their cookies any more than I am interested in Jehovah and his ego problems. Someone selling God, knocking on my door once or less every six months, doesn't seem like much of an issue. I suppose you could get some sort of registering process going down, but I don't like the idea of the government being involved in even MORE stuff, if not really necessary. JWs are dangerous if you buy their stuff, but in this day and age, anyone who buys anything without investigating/researching it first is an idiot. If you really don't want them coming back, tell them, call the Kingdom hall and request to be on the do not call list if necessary. Governments banning their door to door "work" will make them more fervent, more exited, more paranoid, more dangerous. Anything limiting freedom of speech (by government, not by private citizens on private property) is far more dangerous than JWs knocking on your door.
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Should Uninvited D to D Work of Jehovah's Witnesses be against the Law?
by frankiespeakin ini agree that everyone should have the right to practice thier own religion, as long as it doesn't interfere with another person right to privacy and right to not be harassed in their own home by those who feel they have the better religion.. the door to door work of jws is harassment, when you consider that they call for the most part in the morning, univited to talk about why there religion is the right one and often have very bad things to say about other belief systems, which has the potential of disturbing the peace.
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Hi all im new here and have lots of questions
by mr_phishy inhi all im new here, just stumbled accros the website while looking at some jw info and wasn't sure exactly what this forum was, then i quickly realised its actually just what i wanted to find!!
however there isnt really any introduction information, like a clear home page and if you are actually alighned with a particular group/organisation!
anyway, i hope to read lots more interesting stories and hopefully i will find something im after.. cheers.
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A JW marrying outside of their faith in absolutely frowned upon. For her to do so would be bad for her from a religious standpoint, and if she is trying to repent and be a good JW, there is no way this will work for her. If she gets disfellowshipped, you will have a whole other can of worms to deal with if she tries to "get back in". I feel for you man. We aren't knocking the girl have met, but she is in a very difficult situation.
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Hi all im new here and have lots of questions
by mr_phishy inhi all im new here, just stumbled accros the website while looking at some jw info and wasn't sure exactly what this forum was, then i quickly realised its actually just what i wanted to find!!
however there isnt really any introduction information, like a clear home page and if you are actually alighned with a particular group/organisation!
anyway, i hope to read lots more interesting stories and hopefully i will find something im after.. cheers.
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repent the bad things done while here and be a good JW again.
This right here leaves you two options...
- convert to JW (big mistake, with reasons so numerous I couldn't try to list them, though someone here probably might)
- or plan on finding a new girlfriend
edited to add that no "good JW" can have a relationship with a "moral Catholic"....first sarcastic quotations mine, second sarcastic quotations a JWs.
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Please share this inspiring story with everyone you know.
by under_believer inpeople have been posting "encouraging" stories from their witness mailing lists lately.
i thought i'd share one i encountered, too.
many years ago, a new family moved into our neighborhood, little six-year-old emma and her mom and dad.
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Whew, a happy ending! I love a happy ending.
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Thinking like a Jehovah's Witness would think
by The wanderer in<!-- .style1 {font-size: 14px} .style2 {font-family: arial, sans-serif} .style3 {font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; } .style4 {color: #a2554d} .style5 {color: #0084bc} .style6 {font-family: arial, sans-serif; color: #aa5c52; } .style7 { color: #0084bc; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; } .style9 {font-weight: bold} --> thinking like a jehovah's witness would think on a prior discussion thread a couple of individuals pointed out.
to me, that i am more or less infected with "witness" think.
other words, i still think like a jehovah's witness.
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I was forced into living in the "world" and had no choice but to adapt. I then realized that JWs didn't own any patent on morality.If you were an ex-witness how did you overcome
"Witness" think?
Do you still adhere to any of the standards that
we were once taught as Witnesses?
Yeah, some of them. I don't steal, I don't lie (much, but in fairness, all Witnesses lie, even if they don't know it)... But it isn't because the Witnesses taught it. See above.
How do you purge the mental brainwashing
I knew I couldn't survive in the real world without doing so, and I wanted to. I was raised in the religion and once old enough to think on my own, quickly realized that everything they were teaching was just a bunch of ideas developed by a few men in power. Some of the ideology was based good morals, but like I stated, they by no means had that patent. The other ideas were cool sounding but based on nothing (paradise earth), and others were outright dangerous(blood doctrine, etc.).
propaganda of "Witness" think?
My sister has the idea that it is only witnesses that don't curse, don't watch R rated movies, don't commit fornication with everyone they meet. (I try to explain that many just don't do those things around other JWs. *except for the fornication thing...which is pretty much the same as far as ratios go both inside the religion and outside from my observations.) Sure, they get caught and they get punished (unless they are pedophiles or they know a powerful elder)...but how is that taking a moral high road. Not doing stuff because you'll get punished (or not get rewarded) has nothing to do with morality. I mean, isn't that exactly what Satan was trying to prove to God with Job? (not that I buy the Job story, anyhow, but...) Job is only righteous because he has Gods blessing. Without the blessing, Job would reject God. They preach what "Satan" preaches.
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Have you ever had an encounter with a UFO?
by free2beme inwhen i was about 16 years old, a group of us friends would go hiking a lot on the weekend.
we would rough it to some degree, just a sleeping back and sleeping under the stars.
one night, while hiking into a lake in northern california, we all were sleeping in a clearing just out of legal distance from a small mountain lake we liked to fish in.
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I'm just saying, Most people that claim they have seen UFO's (alien spacecraft) are just wrong about it. As a result, those that possibly have are forced to have a larger burden of proof put upon them. I am a skeptic. It is in my nature. I really would love to be "proven" wrong about most of the things I am skeptical of. Honestly. I believe that there are indeed aliens. I also believe that they are most likely not what most people think they would be like (beings with two legs and large heads and big eyes) I have no proof of such things at all, as nobody that I know of has indisputable proof of them either. However, the likelyhood of the universe and how large it is having other lifeforms in them capable of more than we humans are is greater than not.
You have to admit though(ok, you don't have to), a lot of the people claiming alien encounters are, well, not really the most reputable people. Same with psychics, mediums, religious leaders, etc.
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Have you ever had an encounter with a UFO?
by free2beme inwhen i was about 16 years old, a group of us friends would go hiking a lot on the weekend.
we would rough it to some degree, just a sleeping back and sleeping under the stars.
one night, while hiking into a lake in northern california, we all were sleeping in a clearing just out of legal distance from a small mountain lake we liked to fish in.
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I want to add, I am an extremely skeptical person. I am an atheist. I don't believe in magic, spirits, ghosts, mediums, etc. I'll express my doubts to those who have said they have seen unexplainable things like ufos. I really, really have doubts about aliens abducting humans and experimenting on them and think that most if not all of those claiming them are lying or crazy(or were under the influence of some sort of mind altering chemical).
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Have you ever had an encounter with a UFO?
by free2beme inwhen i was about 16 years old, a group of us friends would go hiking a lot on the weekend.
we would rough it to some degree, just a sleeping back and sleeping under the stars.
one night, while hiking into a lake in northern california, we all were sleeping in a clearing just out of legal distance from a small mountain lake we liked to fish in.
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What you saw was definitely a ufo. You couldn't identify it and it was flying. I have strong doubts about whether or not contact has been made with alien beings(or spacecrafts), however. I can't completely rule it out but, just because I can't explain something doesn't mean there isn't another explanation. I saw a UFO once when I was a kid, too. Was it an alien spaceship?Probably not. I know what it wasn't. It wasn't a plane, it wasn't a helicopter, it wasn't a hot air balloon or a weather balloon either, and I haven't forgotten about it.
With the size of the universe, the chances that we on earth are the only "intelligent" beings in it seems unlikely.
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Born Gay?
by Sam87 inhi everyone, just wondering what your thoughts are on people that say they are born gay?
ive heard that this isnt actually possible, and that there is no scientific backing to it, im personaly not gay but i was just wondering what some of you think on this matter, and if you have anything to back it up with, thanks,.
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Who cares. As an adult, I know what turns me on. I know what doesn't. My attraction to girls was there some time around early elementary school(I'm a guy). I didn't learn that, I didn't choose that. My sexual attraction to them came later on, but not much later. I'm sure my attractions have been partly influenced by how my life has gone, and have probably changed slightly over time, but at its core, I know I am heterosexual. I doubt it is much different for anyone else, gay or straight.
The only conscious choices I have made are with whom my relationships have been with, and these have been based upon who I think I will be compatible with both mentally and physically. I am attracted to the opposite sex but not all of them. Just because I have a penis, doesn't mean that every vagina turns me on. Sure, technically they go together, but just because they go together and could serve the purpose of creating a child, doesn't mean that is the only(or best) enjoyment I can receive from it. Mentally, it has to be the right person to be truly enjoyable, hopefully for the both of us.
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