the kingdom melodies completely suck -- i remember several times the entire cong stopped singing because no one could follow the melody -- was downright embarrassing. my mother claims that of course the worlds most talented musicians arranged and wrote the kingdom melodies. i think there's subliminal messaging going on -- god knows what would happen if you played that stuff backward....
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Lo' and Behold - I start hearing Kingdom Melodies in the coffee shop.....
by AK - Jeff ini was peacefully reading an old copy of stephen cox' article "can the truth survive the internet", and all of a sudden i realize that the instrumental music playing is the d*mn kingdom melodies.
it was actually pretty good.
it was that instrumental cd released sometime back with a lot of harp, piano, and woodwinds in it.
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JW Children, Holidays, and Memories
by somebodylovesme inmy husband and i were walking through the store today and we passed a display of valentines -- you know, the kind that school kids buy and exchange in the classroom.
i paused and glanced them over, remembering how much i used to love holidays at school.
(husband is an inactive/faded jw; i was never one.
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limbogirl
the idea of "every day being like christmas" never added up to me yet I bought into it, believed it and said it to people. and if someone called me on it I justified it by saying that if my parents wanted to buy me something they didn't have to wait until my birthday or christmas...they could buy it whenever they wanted. I thought this sounded really grand but I'm sure people thought I was pathetic.
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parents please
by Ellie in.
i have 2 children, a 3 year old and a baby.. i spend all my time trying to make my 3 year old happy (i'm not so concerned about georgia as shes only 6 months old), i pack her days with fun things to do and i hate to tell her off as i feel so guilty, i'm so scared of being a bad mum and ruining her childhood.. do any of you other parents feel like this at all?
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limbogirl
I definitely feel like this sometimes with my 3 year old son. I think it stems from two things: 1. his father and I are divorced and my son splits his time btwn us 50/50 so i have guilt about that and want his time with me to be fun and memorable (plus I work fulltime) 2. I find myself making up for my own childhood as a jw through him -- I love seeing him having fun and participating in pre-school activities, weekend playgroup etc. neither of these reasons are acceptable, though and I battle with myself constantly to do the right thing by him which the rational me knows is to provide discipline, set boundaries, encourage his independence, instill in him a generous spirit and ensure that he doesn't grow up to be bratty and spoiled. That means saying no sometimes and not doing everything for him or providing him constant entertainment. Plus, I'm motivated by the fact that a lot of JWs seem to think that only JW children are well disciplined and behaved. I'm out to prove to my mother that "worldly" parents, myself included, are more than capable of raising a bright, happy, well adjusted child without using fear and excessive force as a way to discipline. my two cents...sorry if I get long winded and run off on a tangent but this subject is near and dear to me!
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JW Children, Holidays, and Memories
by somebodylovesme inmy husband and i were walking through the store today and we passed a display of valentines -- you know, the kind that school kids buy and exchange in the classroom.
i paused and glanced them over, remembering how much i used to love holidays at school.
(husband is an inactive/faded jw; i was never one.
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limbogirl
I remember always feeling left out after Christmas Holiday. My classmates would come back to school with new clothes and new toys for show and tell. I would always be envious but of course would immediately defend my beliefs. I remember saying ridiculous things like, 'my parents don't just wait for one day a year to give me presents -- everyday is like christmas.' I think my mom came up with that one. My nearly three year old son is having the childhood I wish I had -- I'm living vicariously through him and it's the best. I feel sad for my parents -- that they gave up all of these special times with their kids.
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JWs and the holidays at work
by limbogirl ini had lunch this week with some business colleagues and one of them complained that at her office there is now a "no merry christmas" policy which includes not saying merry christmas, not decorating the office for christmas, no christmas party, no secret santa games or exchanging of gifts.
i asked why all the rules and she said that there is one woman (out of nearly 150 employees) who is a jw and office management has decided the best way to handle the situation without excluding this woman or offending her in any way is to eliminate all reference to the holidays.
as you can imagine the other employees are in an uproar.
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limbogirl
maybe your partners should be notified that not only is the christmas party offensive but so is the mere association with all of the non-JW co-workers. but then you probably wouldn't even get a holiday party! the other strange thing in regard to my first post...apparently the christmas party was to be renamed the holiday party but that didn't suffice either. so now the holiday party is the 2006 kickoff party and will occur after the first of the year so as not to be confused with a new year's party. :)
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JWs and the holidays at work
by limbogirl ini had lunch this week with some business colleagues and one of them complained that at her office there is now a "no merry christmas" policy which includes not saying merry christmas, not decorating the office for christmas, no christmas party, no secret santa games or exchanging of gifts.
i asked why all the rules and she said that there is one woman (out of nearly 150 employees) who is a jw and office management has decided the best way to handle the situation without excluding this woman or offending her in any way is to eliminate all reference to the holidays.
as you can imagine the other employees are in an uproar.
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limbogirl
I had lunch this week with some business colleagues and one of them complained that at her office there is now a "No Merry Christmas" policy which includes not saying merry christmas, not decorating the office for christmas, no christmas party, no secret santa games or exchanging of gifts. I asked why all the rules and she said that there is one woman (out of nearly 150 employees) who is a JW and office management has decided the best way to handle the situation without excluding this woman or offending her in any way is to eliminate all reference to the holidays. As you can imagine the other employees are in an uproar. Will be interesting to see what comes of this. When I was a JW at school or at the office there were certainly never any accommodations made because of my religion (nor did I expect any) -- seems like our overly PC world is perhaps working to the advantage of some of the JWs? But I suppose it will be harder for them to witness in the workplace when everyone else is also acting like a JW. very strange...
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perspective on growing up in a jw family after i had my son
by limbogirl incurious to see if anyone else can relate to this....i've been away from jw-world for many years yet really began to have a lot of issues resurface for me when i became a parent two and a half years ago.
.........specifically, i began thinking a lot about my parents raising me and i'm just blown away at the way in which they chose to fill my head with jw teachings from such an early age.
i can't imagine ever teaching my little boy about wicked people, demons, satan, destruction at armageddon and so forth at such a young age.
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limbogirl
the JWs I grew up with loved telling stories about people that were demonized and then came into the "truth." these stories always scared the heck out of me and I think back to some of these tales and wonder how in the world any adult would think those were appropriate things to share with a little kid. one story was about how some newly interested person decided to burn all of their "demonic" books but the books wouldn't burn because they were possessed by demons and it wasn't until the elders prayed and said jehovah that the books burned. that story is mild compared to others that I was told -- I was terrified to close my eyes at night because the demons might come in my room. WHO DOES THAT TO A CHILD??? I could hear those stories but wasn't allowed to watch wizard of oz, bednobs and broomsticks, bewitched, the munsters, adams family and on and on.
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A question for all the new ones
by Lady Lee inwhat made you decide to post?.
i know some lurk for a while - sometimes a long while.
others find the site and do a bit of reading and sign and post immediately.
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limbogirl
another great thing about this forum is that it allows my boyfriend to get some perspective on what I went through with JWs. It's hard to explain this stuff to someone who hasn't been around it -- all they know is that JWs don't celebrate holidays and go door to door but it's the rest of the experience growing up JW that is hard to articulate. I showed him the site and gave him my alias and told him to look at my postings and the related threads for some insight. So far I haven't scared him away!!!
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limbogirl
My beautiful two and a half year old son! and making sure that he grows up in a normal, happy, environment with lots of toys on Christmas day!! :)
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A question for all the new ones
by Lady Lee inwhat made you decide to post?.
i know some lurk for a while - sometimes a long while.
others find the site and do a bit of reading and sign and post immediately.
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limbogirl
I've been looking at this forum and others like it for some time -- laughing at some of the stories and experiences and crying at others. I finally joined and began posting because by not doing so I felt like there was still a bit of a hold on me by the wts and my family. Two years ago I divorced my non-baptised, raised in JW world husband. He doesn't go to meetings nor does he believe the JW teachings but he's still very much controlled by them -- he doesn't want to disappoint them. Still goes to the memorial meeting, etc. Although he and I lived a non-JW life for many years we never took it as far as I wanted -- for example, fully celebrating the holidays. Now that I'm divorced I do things the way that I want which includes celebrating the holidays, birthdays, generally loving life and embracing it to its fullest -- the past two years have been the best of my life -- complete freedom to be me. I want my son to grow up with this perspective -- to know that he can be anything he wants to be, he can make choices and celebrate life. I suppose posting on this site was just a natural progression in my recovery from JW-world. Plus, it is such a relief to be able to talk JWspeak with others who fully understand it. Finally, as a JW I grew up "observing" life -- now I'm a participant in this wonderful life we all have and in order to fully participate I felt compelled to join this forum. And a big thanks to all of you who have paved the way for those of us just joining!!!