Posts by skeeter1

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How does a congregation handle being found guilty in a lawsuit?

by OnTheWayOut in

as in the current oakland, california case, since the congregation must vote on expenditures and pay on such rulings, is there any announcement concerning the specific case and rulings?

are the elders removed to make it look like it was their blunder.

any real info along with wild speculations would be welcome..

skeeter1

Can you imagine going door-to-door in Fremont? I think the JWs are going to hide.

If the congregation owns the building/land, then it could be used to satisy part of the award.

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Verdicts for $28,000,001 against Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of New York, Inc.

by Marvin Shilmer in

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verdicts for $28,000,001 against watchtower bible and tract society of new york, inc.. .

today i added a new article to my blog with downloadable image files of the two verdicts against the watchtower organization in the case of jane doe v. watchtower et al.

my article is titled verdicts for $28,000,001 against watchtower bible and tract society of new york, inc. and is available at: http://marvinshilmer.blogspot.com/2012/06/verdicts-for-28000001-against.html.

skeeter1

If there are 25,000 pedophiles times $28,000,001 . . .

$700,000,025,000.00

I think that's enough to make Bethel sweat.

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Here's the updated (3:20 p.m. ET) MSNBC article quoting Candace Conti

by AndersonsInfo in

jehovah's witnesses ordered to pay more than $20 million to woman who said she was sexually abused.

by james eng, msnbc.com.

updated at 3:20 p.m. et: in what both sides described as a momentous ruling, a jury in oakland, calif., has found that jehovahs witnesses was partly responsible for the alleged sexual abuse of a girl by one of its members and must pay her more than $20 million.. the alameda county superior court jury on thursday awarded $21 million in punitive damages to the plaintiff, who is now 26 years old.

skeeter1

I went to Fox News and sent an e-mail. Let's all do it!

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Facebook Comments From JWs About Kendrick Case

by cofty in

i can't believe do catholic priest get hit with payouts like this.

definitely feel terrible what happened to her but to hold the society responsible for a person not living by bible standards is crazy.

what a pack of lies about secrecy and cover ups.

skeeter1

I knew 2 pedophiles. Both were reported to the elders, and each time the elders TOLD the family to not spread it around the Kingdom Hall else they would be disfellowshipped. The pedophiles were never prosecutied by the police (or turned in that i know of).

And, one used narcotics to drug the women/girls he raped. Homestead Florida and Merryville Tennessee congregations during 1960s, 1970s, 1980s, and 1990s. The man, Maurice Kelly, is now DEAD. Even when he was old, I hear, he was still a pervert.

Skeeter

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Bill Bowen Just Posted This on Facebook Moments Ago

by jamiebowers in

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jane doe vs the watch tower in the oakland, ca case was awarded $20 million in punitive damages..

skeeter1

I agree with Dogpatch. The WTS has let the elders out to dry too many times. If the elders are smart, they will realize that the WTS is not protecting their backs. In fact, the WTS doesn't even allow the elders to record the elder schools. Why? If an elder follows the advice given and something bad happened, the WTS can say, "Oh, that wasn't what was said, the elder misinterpreted our instructions." Hence, elder hung out to dry. Remember, 1975 didn't happen. The elders/men/followers misinterpreted the FDS.

Eventually, even the stupidest elders are going to catch on. When they lose their elders, there will be mass apostacy. The R&F does not really know Bethel, but they do have close ties wtih the local elders. If the elders leave & call it a bullhockey cult, the R&F will follow.

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Watchtower found guilty ruled to pay 7 million to 1 victim? wow

by yourmomma in

is this recent?

http://www.silentlambs.org/oaklandlawsuit.htm.

i havent seen anyone post about it, the link has a pdf on it of the court documents, and it looks like the stamp is from 5/12 but its blurry.. .

skeeter1

I remind all of the WTS press release back in 2007 with the class action trials (from JW Media, emphasis added by me. The underlined items of this press release were complete lies by the WTS. You can probably hear it all again, if you contact J.R. Brown(noser).

For Immediate Release
November 21, 2007

Jehovah’s Witnesses care for victims of child abuse

For the sake of the victims in these cases, we are pleased that a settlement has been reached. Our hearts go out to all those who suffer as a result of child abuse. Jehovah’s Witnesses worldwide are united in their abhorrence of this sin and crime.—Romans 12:9.

We do not condone or protect child molesters. Our elders expel unrepentant sinners who commit this crime. (1 Corinthians 5:13) In the United States, over 80,000 elders currently serve in over 12,300 congregations. (Acts 20:28) During the last 100 years, only eleven elders have been sued for child abuse in thirteen lawsuits filed in the United States. In seven of these lawsuits against the elders, accusations against the Watchtower Society itself were dismissed by the courts. Of course, one victim is one victim too many. However, the incidence of this crime among Jehovah’s Witnesses is rare.

Congregation elders comply with child abuse reporting laws. (Mark 12:17; Romans 13:1) We do not silence victims. Our members have an absolute right to report this horrible crime to the authorities. The October 2007 issue of our monthly journal Awake! features the cover series, “Keep Your Children Safe!” These articles clearly show our concern for protecting children from sexual abuse.

Contact: J. R. Brown, telephone: (718) 560-5600:

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Watchtower found guilty ruled to pay 7 million to 1 victim? wow

by yourmomma in

is this recent?

http://www.silentlambs.org/oaklandlawsuit.htm.

i havent seen anyone post about it, the link has a pdf on it of the court documents, and it looks like the stamp is from 5/12 but its blurry.. .

skeeter1

I'm not an expert of California law, but when you lose at trial court and want to appeal . . . you have to put the amount in controversy in a bond. It's called an "Appeal Bond"

Appeal Bond

An appeal bond ensures that if an appeal is unsuccessful, the payment of the original judgment of the court will be paid. The party that is appealing the court's ruling is required to purchase an appeal bond

The appeal bond is required to discourage people from appealing to stall for time and other reasons that waste the court's time.

Who must obtain an appeal bond?

The person filing for the appeal must acquire an appeal bond to cover the cost of the original judgment pending the appeal fails and also the court costs of the appeal.

Either the prior defendant or plaintiff of a case can file an appeal. Regardless, they must supply an appeal bond.

Why do courts require an appeal bond?

Appeal bonds discourage frivolous appeals. If the bond were not in place many would abuse the appellate system. For example, a party might file for an appeal to stall for time if they cannot pay the court ordered sum.

However, with the requirement to purchase an appeal bond the idea of saving money is null and void. The appeal bond costs the amount of the previous judgment in addition to interest and court costs.

The bond also protects the interest of the party that the court ruled in favor of during the first proceeding. If the losing party, whether an individual or business, goes bankrupt during the appeals process the appeal bond ensures that they will be compensated.

Who sells appeal bonds and how much to they cost?

Appeal bonds are a type of surety bonds and can be purchased from bonding or insurance companies, including SuretyBonds.com. In this case, the bonding company guarantees that original judgment by the court will be honored if the appeal fails.

The price of appeal bond depends on the original ruling of the court. The amount of the first ruling plus interests and court costs is likely to be the amount you have to pay to purchase an appeal bond.

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Watchtower found guilty ruled to pay 7 million to 1 victim? wow

by yourmomma in

is this recent?

http://www.silentlambs.org/oaklandlawsuit.htm.

i havent seen anyone post about it, the link has a pdf on it of the court documents, and it looks like the stamp is from 5/12 but its blurry.. .

skeeter1

The news has to get a copy of that tract!

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Watchtower found guilty ruled to pay 7 million to 1 victim? wow

by yourmomma in

is this recent?

http://www.silentlambs.org/oaklandlawsuit.htm.

i havent seen anyone post about it, the link has a pdf on it of the court documents, and it looks like the stamp is from 5/12 but its blurry.. .

skeeter1

I quote from the Watchtower; "Even churches that condemn immorality have tolerated religious leaders who have sexually abused children . . . . . Do you know of religions hta tcondone immoral sex?"

You bettya I do!

Good for the Canadian Government on the Boy Scouts! It will be interesting to see that large list.

Skeeter

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Watchtower found guilty ruled to pay 7 million to 1 victim? wow

by yourmomma in

is this recent?

http://www.silentlambs.org/oaklandlawsuit.htm.

i havent seen anyone post about it, the link has a pdf on it of the court documents, and it looks like the stamp is from 5/12 but its blurry.. .

skeeter1

This is the old post I was talking about (and, don't you love that Memorial tract about False Religion)! I think that it was shortly after these rulings that the Watchtower settled the class action cases out of court.

majornewsin2006	Re: Major OCTOBER 2006 SURPRISE: court says open ped files per silentlambs.org posted 5 years ago (10/20/2006)
Post 2 of 2 Since 10/20/2006	http://www.silentlambs.org/courtrulingnapa.htm Please congratulate Love and Norris. If you know of additional pedophile misdeeds not in the files as they open, then please contact their law firm. Love and Norris Cracks Watchtower Pedophile Database! Click here to read ruling here in PDF Recent decisions in California Courts have ruled in favor of abuse survivors in that state. The Legal Department lawyers of Jehovah’s Witnesses have fought with filing after filing trying to claim “clergy penitent privilege” with information that would lead to the possible conviction or implication of further crimes against children by Jehovah’s Witness child molesters. The secondary issue regards civil damages brought upon victims due to negligence of church officials in not reporting allegations of child abuse putting additional children in danger. This ruling from the court states simply that the church cannot use “clergy penitent privilege” as a way to protect pedophiles from law enforcement. The ruling further states information stated in judicial hearings of Jehovah’s Witnesses as well as documents generated by those hearings are not “privileged” and will have to be released to the courts as any information that is relevant to the case. In addition, the Legal Department will have to produce all documents related to their abuse policy and how they investigate child abuse allegations. Most importantly the ruling states; “records kept by or under the direction of the Legal Department concerning allegations of abuse,” that directly involves the pedophile database reported by silentlambs in April of 2002. This represents the first official ruling of the court that opens the database for public scrutiny. This judgment is bitter sweet as in 2003 in New Hampshire silentlambs officials watched as Jehovah’s Witnesses attorneys defended the “religious right” of convicted child molester Paul Berry to prevent further convictions on allegations of his abuse of other children. Thousands of dollars in donations to Jehovah’s Witnesses known as Worldwide Work monies were spent silencing the victims of Paul Berry. Each time you donate to Jehovah’s Witnesses a portion of that money will be spent defending the rights of convicted Jehovah’s Witness pedophiles from their victims. The California case above to date has involved hundreds of thousands of dollars of Jehovah’s Witness donations to stop victims of abuse from getting needed treatment for the crimes committed against them. The religious hypocrisy of offering articles on abuse issues while secretly protecting pedophiles using “clergy penitent privilege” is far worse than the Catholic Church abuse scandal. This month the Jehovah’s Witnesses are distributing this tract worldwide. They openly condemn the Catholic Church for their abuse scandal and use it as a basis to call them a “false religion.” Do members realize their Legal Department Lawyer elders are protecting pedophiles in the courts using the money they collect door to door to do so? At silentlambs we appreciate the determination and courage of abuse survivors in going forward in the courts to bring these criminals to justice. We look forward to the day when the Governing Body of Jehovah’s Witnesses follows the example set by the Pope of the Catholic Church and apologizes for their role in allowing polices that continue to hurt children. The "truth" will prevail and no amount of Worldwide Work Donations spent to protect child molesters will stop the real truth of these matters from being discovered in the courts. The pedophile database holds the key to that “truth.”

majornewsin2006

Re: Major OCTOBER 2006 SURPRISE: court says open ped files per silentlambs.org posted 5 years ago (10/20/2006)

Post 2 of 2
Since 10/20/2006

http://www.silentlambs.org/courtrulingnapa.htm

Please congratulate Love and Norris. If you know of additional pedophile misdeeds not in the files as they open, then please contact their law firm.

Love and Norris Cracks Watchtower Pedophile Database!

Click here to read ruling here in PDF

Recent decisions in California Courts have ruled in favor of abuse survivors in that state. The Legal Department lawyers of Jehovah’s Witnesses have fought with filing after filing trying to claim “clergy penitent privilege” with information that would lead to the possible conviction or implication of further crimes against children by Jehovah’s Witness child molesters. The secondary issue regards civil damages brought upon victims due to negligence of church officials in not reporting allegations of child abuse putting additional children in danger.

This ruling from the court states simply that the church cannot use “clergy penitent privilege” as a way to protect pedophiles from law enforcement. The ruling further states information stated in judicial hearings of Jehovah’s Witnesses as well as documents generated by those hearings are not “privileged” and will have to be released to the courts as any information that is relevant to the case. In addition, the Legal Department will have to produce all documents related to their abuse policy and how they investigate child abuse allegations. Most importantly the ruling states; “records kept by or under the direction of the Legal Department concerning allegations of abuse,” that directly involves the pedophile database reported by silentlambs in April of 2002. This represents the first official ruling of the court that opens the database for public scrutiny.

This judgment is bitter sweet as in 2003 in New Hampshire silentlambs officials watched as Jehovah’s Witnesses attorneys defended the “religious right” of convicted child molester Paul Berry to prevent further convictions on allegations of his abuse of other children. Thousands of dollars in donations to Jehovah’s Witnesses known as Worldwide Work monies were spent silencing the victims of Paul Berry. Each time you donate to Jehovah’s Witnesses a portion of that money will be spent defending the rights of convicted Jehovah’s Witness pedophiles from their victims. The California case above to date has involved hundreds of thousands of dollars of Jehovah’s Witness donations to stop victims of abuse from getting needed treatment for the crimes committed against them. The religious hypocrisy of offering articles on abuse issues while secretly protecting pedophiles using “clergy penitent privilege” is far worse than the Catholic Church abuse scandal. This month the Jehovah’s Witnesses are distributing this tract worldwide. They openly condemn the Catholic Church for their abuse scandal and use it as a basis to call them a “false religion.”

Do members realize their Legal Department Lawyer elders are protecting pedophiles in the courts using the money they collect door to door to do so?

At silentlambs we appreciate the determination and courage of abuse survivors in going forward in the courts to bring these criminals to justice. We look forward to the day when the Governing Body of Jehovah’s Witnesses follows the example set by the Pope of the Catholic Church and apologizes for their role in allowing polices that continue to hurt children. The "truth" will prevail and no amount of Worldwide Work Donations spent to protect child molesters will stop the real truth of these matters from being discovered in the courts. The pedophile database holds the key to that “truth.”