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  what is the best line to say to a JW handing you an invite to the memorial

  by nonjwspouse in

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  i have some ideas, but want more to choose from..

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  skeeter1

  I will ask them for their address, so I can come to their house to give them an invitation and to preach the good news of Buddha.

  The Ploughing Festival
  In May, when the moon is half-full, two white oxen pull a gold painted plough, followed by four girls dressed in white who scatter rice seeds from gold and silver baskets. This is to celebrate the Buddha's first moment of enlightenment, which is said to have happened when the Buddha was seven years old, when he had gone with his father to watched the ploughing. (Known in Thailand as Raek Na

  The Story of the Festival Goes..
  The Ploughing Festival owes its orgin to the times when Prince Gautama was just a child, seven years of age. At the point of time, an annual ploughing festival was held when the rice field was ploughed. Once, king Sudhodana took along his son, Prince Gautama, to see the festival. There, the little prince fell asleep. Discovering that the prince had fallen asleep, His maids left Him and went to join in the festivities. On waking up, the prince found Himself alone. Instead of getting hassled, he engaged Himself in meditation. He breathed in and out and thereby attained one-pointedness of the mind and developed the First Ecstasy (Jhana). On their return, the maids were completely surprised to find the little prince meditating. They immediately informed the king about it and he was equally surprised to his son in a meditative posture. He was so impressed that he saluted his young son and said, "This, dear child is my second salutation".

  

  Later, in His life, the prince used the same form of meditation and attained enlightened. The Ploughing festival celebrates the first enlightenment of prince Gautama or the Buddh
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  What Watchtower Belief/View Never Sat Right With You?

  by minimus in

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  but their views on blood are just plain weird!

  meat has blood in it even if it's bled.

  still eating meat means consuming blood.

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  #1) Everyone who wasn't a JW was going to, pretty much, die becuase God hated them.

  #2) Anything with 1914.

  #3) Could not read other materials written by non-Society people about religion. Could not go into a Christian bookstore. Badmouthed all other religions as being wrong.

  #4) Trying to push your religion on others.
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  What Watchtower Belief/View Never Sat Right With You?

  by minimus in

  1. watchtower
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  but their views on blood are just plain weird!

  meat has blood in it even if it's bled.

  still eating meat means consuming blood.

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  Cleveland? What am I missing, as I didn't know about that doctrine.
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  Tragic Story: Unbelieving Daughter Loses Her Child and JW Mother in Landslides

  by kneehighmiah in

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  The belief of the JW religion is a stark opposite of the reality of the JW religion. I understand this woman's grief, but I think the JW life is slavery. I hope she investigates it before joining. It is an answer to the afterlife, but may not be the only answer. She needs to keep investigating and come to her own understanding of the afterlife.
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  JW's going door to door in the future, funny video

  by Crazyguy in

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=c7ptao4imsm.

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  Great. And, loved the cryo-cell explanation of the Generation of the future.
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  When a JW relative came to visit . . . .

  by skeeter1 in

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  for those of you who are shunned, it is in disguise a blessing.

  becuase when you are not shunned, jws come to visit.

  it is the most tiresome hosting you will ever endure.. for the first 2 1/2 days, it was straight talk about "jehovah", the "organization", the "bible", then, "how bad these times are", "can't wait to see someone dead in the new world" .

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  Thank you everyone. I do think that a big part of this is that the JWs are sheltered people who have surrounded themselves with JWs and JW speak. They can't relate to people any other way, then the Witness speak.

  It has taken me the weekend to calm down. Today, we went over for a party at our friends' house as I said before. It was so nice and laid back. I am beginning to relax. A wine cooler helped out, alot. But, I am wiped out and am going to take an afternoon nap now.
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  When a JW relative came to visit . . . .

  by skeeter1 in

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  for those of you who are shunned, it is in disguise a blessing.

  becuase when you are not shunned, jws come to visit.

  it is the most tiresome hosting you will ever endure.. for the first 2 1/2 days, it was straight talk about "jehovah", the "organization", the "bible", then, "how bad these times are", "can't wait to see someone dead in the new world" .

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  All I kept thinking of (to keep me from going off the deep end) is, "Skeeter, we're dealing with brainwashed people, and somewhere underneath the brainwashing are nice people trying to get through the world despite their damaged lives." And, that's what we really have. I wish I could get to meet the real people underneath the brainwashing, but that isn't going to be at this time.

  Snowbird, thanks for your scripture. It worked like a charm. Never heard that line of argument again!
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  When a JW relative came to visit . . . .

  by skeeter1 in

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  for those of you who are shunned, it is in disguise a blessing.

  becuase when you are not shunned, jws come to visit.

  it is the most tiresome hosting you will ever endure.. for the first 2 1/2 days, it was straight talk about "jehovah", the "organization", the "bible", then, "how bad these times are", "can't wait to see someone dead in the new world" .

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  The best was when one JW claimed he had free speech rights. I said, "No you don't. What happened if you complained about child molestation by elders, blood transfusions, or the multiple changes in the Generation teaching?" (just so you know, we're about 4 days into the visit, and I've had it at this point). The JW said, "Oh, I don't care about those things, and that isn't what I was complainign about" So, the teenager overhears this and drops jaw. The whole way to school . .. . "He doesn't care about child molestors within the JWs, what does he care about?" I said, "Oh, he was having a personal,marital problem and complained at how the Watchtower Society in Bethel handled that." Teenager said, "Wow, he can't see beyond his nose."

  I think I'm going to take my teenager shopping or out for a huge banana split!
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  When a JW relative came to visit . . . .

  by skeeter1 in

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  for those of you who are shunned, it is in disguise a blessing.

  becuase when you are not shunned, jws come to visit.

  it is the most tiresome hosting you will ever endure.. for the first 2 1/2 days, it was straight talk about "jehovah", the "organization", the "bible", then, "how bad these times are", "can't wait to see someone dead in the new world" .

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  For those of you who are shunned, it is in disguise a blessing. Becuase when you are not shunned, JWs come to visit. It is the most tiresome hosting you will ever endure.

  For the first 2 1/2 days, it was straight talk about "Jehovah", the "Organization", the "Bible", then, "How Bad these times are", "can't wait to see someone dead in the New World" . . . all sprinkled in with a few of their dislikes of the Borg. I'm tallking 90% of the conversation was touting the JW. Now, at first, I just take the talk and nod. I don't want to be rude. That is seen as an open invitation to try to Witness to me and my kids (of course, when my back was turned).

  So, that was where we drew the line. At that point, I had to have a nice conversation with the JWs. I did it nicely and calmly. It took every ounce of my patience to do this. I told them that I understood that the JWs gave them purpose, focus, and faith. I respect that. I also told them that I have studied the JW and Christianity and do not follow JW nor much of Christianity. I also said that it was rude to disregard my beliefs and make the first several days fo their visit as a JW campaign to recruit me. I admitted that I was insulted. The JW apologizes . . . then continues to preach the Bible, read the Bible, etc. for the next 36 hours!!!!!!!!!

  The good news, is that my teenager is SUPER turned off now to JWs! "FREAKY" is how she described it. Telling all school buddies....too. Nothing like a good Witness to spread the Truth about the Truth!

  Finally, on the last day, the JWs relax. Only mentions the JWs a few times.

  I'm just so tired. It was not an enjoyable visit. I was constantly put on edge, insulted,my JW guests made references constantly to materialism, and selfishness . . especially the last day when they were not trying to make leading conversation to preach the Good News. I think this last day was pure judgemental becuase we have a nice home. Whatever. I didn't bother to counter. I just counted down the hours til they left.

  So, what's worse than a JW on a doorstep? How about prosthelizing JWs in your guest room who do not respect other people's deeply held religous beliefs?

  I think I'll drink several beers this weekend. I deserve it. On Sunday, we're going over to our Lesbian girlfriends who are getting married. They promised me a few free beers.

  Skeeter
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  Former Austria and Switzerland branches update!!

  by Viva la Vida in

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  the wt branches in switzerland and austria were sold and now they are being develop into apartment buildings.. check the projects on the following links:.

  switzerland: http://www.vbarch.ch/aktuelles (7th picture from top).

  austria: http://www.wvg.at/projekte/13g40.

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  Are they really closing down these places, or just moving them?