2014 regional convention:.
on friday, on the last speech of the morning, (the "key speech"), a bethel member slipped in some "new light" rather casually, without much fuss.
he mentioned the out-of-body experience of the apostle paul, in 2 corinthians 12:2-4, where he experienced being "caught up to the third heaven ... caught up to paradise and heard inexpressible words...".
Is this Third Class heaven like a Third Class ticket? Where is the Third Heaven (or 1st or 2nd) in outer space? I had thought Heaven was one, infinite place. Now, it's partitioned like baseball and blood fractions? Can one be in all three heavens at once, or is that glutony?
And, is there a Seventh Heaven? Is that going to be new light in another four years? Because, I'm waiting on Seventh Heaven!
today my husband and i sold plastic ducks for the annual duck racing fund raising event opposite a jw cart.
in the 2hour period we sold over a 100 ducks putting our jw training to good use proactively approaching people, overcoming objections and generally wishing people success.
cantleave went round the local businesses selling to the shops and generally was received positively.
A lucky ducky day for you!
i just found this out last night.
(preface: this is a husband and wife that i have come to be friends with after leaving the borg, they are christians).
we were sitting around visiting last night and having a good time when my friend starts in on illegal immigration and politics and starts throwing out his hate speech which eventually turns to homosexuals.
Bill Meher has a part on Christians and Dinosaurs. You've got to see it! Funny, in that Bill Meyer way Here's the clip.
so my wife and my parents are at their convention today.
this will be the first time in my life that i will not have seen a drama or baptism.
i will miss the public address, i will not see many of my lifelong friends that i have moved away from.
"Mom, have a good time at the convention. I know you well enough to know how much thought and care it took you to write that text. I also know enough to know that you are feeling guilty or responsible about my not being at the meetings. You are a great parent, and should not take my not coming to the meetings as a reflection of you as a mother, servent of Jehovah, or otherwise. I made my own decision to not attend, based on my own hours and months of personal study. I love you too."
You have to define who you are within this relationship with your mother. If you don't nip it (her guilt trips) in the bud, she will continue on & on & on & on & on.
2014 regional convention:.
on friday, on the last speech of the morning, (the "key speech"), a bethel member slipped in some "new light" rather casually, without much fuss.
he mentioned the out-of-body experience of the apostle paul, in 2 corinthians 12:2-4, where he experienced being "caught up to the third heaven ... caught up to paradise and heard inexpressible words...".
The butt of all Comedian jokes on JWs is, "JWs believe that only 144,000 of best of them of going to heaven, so that's why they won't leave your door."
Now, the JWs will say, "No, all Christians can go to Heaven."
The Comedians will say, "Flip-flip".
2014 regional convention:.
on friday, on the last speech of the morning, (the "key speech"), a bethel member slipped in some "new light" rather casually, without much fuss.
he mentioned the out-of-body experience of the apostle paul, in 2 corinthians 12:2-4, where he experienced being "caught up to the third heaven ... caught up to paradise and heard inexpressible words...".
Wow, that's worth me sneaking into a convention to hear on a late Friday afternoon!
I think you should write/call Bethel and/or ask your elders for further understanding. Are you sure you heard that right? That means that the Catholics are going to make it into the New System too. What happens next? Do the Catholics have to convert to JWism before the 1,000 year reign is up, or be put into the abyss? If that's the case, then the preaching work isn't so dire afterall. You can now skip the Christian houses and just focus on the Islamic, Jews, Hindus, Buddhists, Wiccans, etc. Just fly all those JWs to Iran, and let them go "door to door" there!
Skeeter
i don't understand why so many ex jws and faders think that the jws will continue to grow and thrive as a religion.
i still attend a meeting once a week and you can smell the death of the religion creeping up when you hear the talks, read the study wts and hear the letters from the gb.
the way the organization has changed is a sign that it reached its peak (in "healthy" membership) long ago.
I do not attend the JW meetings, and haven't since the mid-1980s. I will take your assessments that the WTS is in decline. Having been on this board for almost 9 years (wow), I have sure seen alot of newbies. And, congregations are no longer 120+ members strong, having to split congregations, etc. The Internet and information age will take away their followers and keep new ones from joining in the great numbers, and old age will take away another group.
Why my own 3 relatives that still "cling" to this cult do so, is beyond me. But, they all three find alot of fault with it. But, they equate the borg with being Jehovah, so they stay in.
i just found this out last night.
(preface: this is a husband and wife that i have come to be friends with after leaving the borg, they are christians).
we were sitting around visiting last night and having a good time when my friend starts in on illegal immigration and politics and starts throwing out his hate speech which eventually turns to homosexuals.
Calm down, grab a bag of popcorn, and watch the comedy/documentry "Religulous" by Bill Meyer.
the jehovahs witnesses official web site logo incorporating jw.org has been refused registration by the united states patent and trademark office due to similarity to jw player.. section 2(d) refusal likelihood of confusionclass 42. for the reasons set forth below, the refusal under trademark act section 2(d) is now made final with respect to u.s. registration no(s).
this refusal is limited to the class 42 services in the application.. applicants mark is jw.org & design, for use with, inter alia, providing a web site that gives computer users the ability to download audio and video recordings, dvds, music, digital print publications, online publications, documents, forms and web pages all in the field of religion, in class 42. the cited mark is jw player, for use with downloadable computer software for playing, viewing and streaming audio and video files in class 09.. .
documents available to download at jw leaks.. http://jwleaks.org/2014/06/19/jw-org-logo-denied-trademark-status-in-the-united-states/.
The fix is to think of a new logo. WTS is trying to get a new brand, since "Watchtower" and "Jehovh's Witness" are trashed. How about www.WTF.org (for Watchtower Friends, of course).
this thread is for you to vent about anything (within guidelines) that you want.. i'll start.. i'm sick of people who complain about how cold the weather is and then you have two 85 degree days and now they can't wait till autumn!.
I do get shopping bags too, to use for such purposes. But, I alwsays have too many of them and end up throwing the plastic bags away before I hit hoarder quantity. In maui, no plastic shopping bags.
