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beksbks
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61% of Americans OPPOSE Limiting Union Bargaining Power
by blondie inhttp://themoderatevoice.com/102199/usa-todaygallup-poll-61-oppose-limiting-union-bargaining-power/.
themoderate voicean internet hub for moderates, centrists, and independents, with domestic and international news, analysis, original reporting, and popular features from the left, center, and right no more fear.
this is why americans vote against economic self-interest .
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Do You Have a Favorite Christian Band?
by brotherdan ini've only recently (within the last year) started listening to christian music.
some of it is pretty cheesey, but i'm getting into a lot of it.
right now i really like brandon heath and casting crowns.
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beksbks
I liked Creed, until I heard more than one album and realized it all sounded the same.
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61% of Americans OPPOSE Limiting Union Bargaining Power
by blondie inhttp://themoderatevoice.com/102199/usa-todaygallup-poll-61-oppose-limiting-union-bargaining-power/.
themoderate voicean internet hub for moderates, centrists, and independents, with domestic and international news, analysis, original reporting, and popular features from the left, center, and right no more fear.
this is why americans vote against economic self-interest .
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beksbks
By far, the most unpopular thing is tax hikes.
Not tax hikes on the wealthy.
Not that this has anything to do with state budgets. It's all politics, and you know it. In Wisconsin the Unions made over a million in concessions before Walker even got in. They've conceded to every supposed request since. That's not the goal here. The goal is to screw the worker unions and sell off the state utilities to the Kochs. Oh and demolish the only worthy competitor to corporate campaign contributions.
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Separate but unequal: Charts show growing rich-poor gap
by darthfader ininteresting:.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_thelookout/20110223/ts_yblog_thelookout/separate-but-unequal-charts-show-growing-rich-poor-gap.
the great recession and the slump that followed have triggered a jobs crisis that's been making headlines since before president obama was in office, and that will likely be with us for years.
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beksbks
Be still my heart.
This is the most telling bit of info of all. Even though productivity is up, unions are down, wages are down/stagnant, the middle class is shrinking....................trickle down economics, tax cuts on the wealthy.................it's all here. CEO pay gone from approx 25% more than the worker to over 400%. Top tax rate when Reagan took office was 70%........................ All the "conservative" policies that they are still clamoring for today, have been proven wrong over the last 35 years. It's been a conscious shift of wealth to the top. Now they are coming for some of the last bits we've got. Social Security, Pensions, decent wages, EPA..................all for the benefit of the money grubbers.
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61% of Americans OPPOSE Limiting Union Bargaining Power
by blondie inhttp://themoderatevoice.com/102199/usa-todaygallup-poll-61-oppose-limiting-union-bargaining-power/.
themoderate voicean internet hub for moderates, centrists, and independents, with domestic and international news, analysis, original reporting, and popular features from the left, center, and right no more fear.
this is why americans vote against economic self-interest .
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beksbks
Darth do you know how hard it is to find made in America? It did not start there. Jobs were allowed to leave this country before we stopped buying American. It's like the old company store. The biggest employer in the country is now WalMart, and most of America can no longer afford to shop anywhere but WalMart. Don't tell me it was the consumer that caused this turn. And what the heck ever happened to non chain stores? I have few choices for basics where I live. All of them are huge mega corps. They have driven out the little guys and thier locally/quality made products. We have a huge trade issue. Other countries put restrictions on stuff coming in that they make. We have a huge trade deficit. We haven't had a surplus in like 40 years.
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61% of Americans OPPOSE Limiting Union Bargaining Power
by blondie inhttp://themoderatevoice.com/102199/usa-todaygallup-poll-61-oppose-limiting-union-bargaining-power/.
themoderate voicean internet hub for moderates, centrists, and independents, with domestic and international news, analysis, original reporting, and popular features from the left, center, and right no more fear.
this is why americans vote against economic self-interest .
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beksbks
I agree with you to a point Darth. There are many ways to bring this disparity back in line. Trade policy, Stock Market, Taxes, Wages................there are answers other than continuing to join the race to the bottom.
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61% of Americans OPPOSE Limiting Union Bargaining Power
by blondie inhttp://themoderatevoice.com/102199/usa-todaygallup-poll-61-oppose-limiting-union-bargaining-power/.
themoderate voicean internet hub for moderates, centrists, and independents, with domestic and international news, analysis, original reporting, and popular features from the left, center, and right no more fear.
this is why americans vote against economic self-interest .
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beksbks
Tax Dollars. Our tax dollars allow politicians, who want to stay in power, to *negotiate* contracts. The politicians are only giving the union bosses what *they* want. Union assured votes for said politian. It has been a never ending cycle. Seemingly.
I have been in two separate unions. I know how hard it is to fire a union member. It is almost impossible. One was stealing from the compnay. I had him on camera. For months I monitored and documented his actions. I was not his supervisor, just a worker. I was also the union rep which put me in a bind. They (The union guys) wanted me to lie and destroy the film. I wouldn't and was really put into a tough situation. In the end, it took over 3 months, with him being on paid leave, for the investigation and union reps to come in etc. He was fired with full pension. He had been there for 15 years. In the private sector he would have been out the door and perhaps prosecuted. He stole over $15,000 worth of product and customers.
It is even harder to fire a teacher or cop who has union reps. I could find stories, but, why bother? No one here wants to believe it.
My attitude is not "I don't have it why should they", my attitude is "I'm a taxpayer and our state is broke". They are employees of the state and the state, as their employer can no longer afford the ridiculous terms that were negotiated by the previous crooks in office. Between pay and benefits, those state and local workers are suitable for WalMart. Maybe. They are lucky the Neotism system has worked so far. Most of them are lazy and not at all happy to help you when you go to their place of work. They don't give you proper information and they don't do their jobs well. Again, in the private sector, they would be immediately fired and a new person put in their place who would try harder and be happy.
Are all WalMart workers happy? No. Are Target workers? Mostly. I haven't had a negative experience at Target. I have at WalMart.
I just want them to paid realistically. Like the rest of America is. Having the local taxpayer fund their pension fund and pay 100% for their insurance is crazy!! The local governments simply cannot afford it.
What a bunch of misinformed nonesense. I was a manager in a large private business. You think it was any easier to get someone fired there? You think there weren't lazy unhappy employees? The notion that human beings behave any differently in public as opposed to private employment is absurd. But blaming all our ills on public employees is the current agenda by the neocon puppet masters
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61% of Americans OPPOSE Limiting Union Bargaining Power
by blondie inhttp://themoderatevoice.com/102199/usa-todaygallup-poll-61-oppose-limiting-union-bargaining-power/.
themoderate voicean internet hub for moderates, centrists, and independents, with domestic and international news, analysis, original reporting, and popular features from the left, center, and right no more fear.
this is why americans vote against economic self-interest .
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beksbks
I just want them to paid realistically. Like the rest of America is.
LOL, but the rest of America isn't. And quite frankly the wages these public employees make is in many cases less than thier private counterparts. One reason for that is that over the years they have negotiated better retirement and benefits for lower wages. So in other words the state made promises to buy now and pay later. Now they want to renege on that arrangement.
As for how non union workers benefit from unions, they set higher standards for safety, wages and benefits. Across the board.
Having the local taxpayer fund their pension fund and pay 100% for their insurance is crazy!!
They don't.
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beksbks
LOL, unbelievably sad
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