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i know no one really knows what the content of the "news" is, but i don't even know what news you guys are waiting for.
i've been reading some posts referencing "barb" and "the news," so i wasn't wondering if someone could give me some background (i've looked a few pages back and can't find anything).. thanks.
I know no one really knows what the content of the "news" is, but I don't even know what news you guys are waiting for. I've been reading some posts referencing "Barb" and "the news," so I wasn't wondering if someone could give me some background (I've looked a few pages back and can't find anything).
Thanks.
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what percentage would you say came into your old or current congregation(s) via the door-to-door witnessing?
it is understood that your response is a guestimate.
Apparently they have TV ads in the US now too
Really? I haven't seen any. When/on what channel do they usually run?
we all know that cults use loaded language as well as redefine words and phrases to have their own special meaning.. not to long ago i was talking to a very devout jw sister (totally brainwashed just doesn't describe it) about my daughter.
she kept talking about the "young ones".
she must have said the phrase twenty times over the course of the conversation.
This is hilarious! My sister and I (both unbaptized) have studied just long enough to notice this. We've noticed that they love using the word "appreciate": e.g., "This helps us to appreciate . . ." Also, "the nations" is another one I've heard many of them use to describe the world. This just cracks me up.
i know many people will get angry at this, but i had to share some observations i've had since i discovered this board a couple of days ago (see my original post under "why all the venom?").
i'll be very honest and say that i was hoping that i would discover that the jw's were wrong about some things, including the so-called "apostate" sites (i have been recommended to some internet sites and some books that i plan to investigate further).
i was hoping to find that people really didn't need the jw's "spiritual food" to remain true to god.
Oh, and seattleniceguy, I just wanted to thank you for making a logical point.
i know many people will get angry at this, but i had to share some observations i've had since i discovered this board a couple of days ago (see my original post under "why all the venom?").
i'll be very honest and say that i was hoping that i would discover that the jw's were wrong about some things, including the so-called "apostate" sites (i have been recommended to some internet sites and some books that i plan to investigate further).
i was hoping to find that people really didn't need the jw's "spiritual food" to remain true to god.
Pistoff, I'm not sure what happened in my previous post, but most of my comments didn't show up. My comments about you articulating exactly what I felt, are in reference to this:
It is hard to articulate this, but I used to have an unconscious fear of learning something that would invalidate my belief system.
This was my response to the words I quoted from your in my previous post: You articulated so well one of the main things that bothers me about the JW's! My sister and I have often wondered when it becomes unacceptable to ask certain questions of one's book study conductor. When the JW's first came to my door, I had lots of questions and had no hesitance asking them. However, now that I'm learning more, I've gotten a distinct impression that if I shouldn't really ask certain types of questions; if I do, I feel that my book study conductor will group me into that category of people she feels just doesn't want to accept "the truth." The problem is that when they first came to my door, I didn't know the questions to ask because I didn't know their major doctrines; they don't reveal those until much later in the study.
i know many people will get angry at this, but i had to share some observations i've had since i discovered this board a couple of days ago (see my original post under "why all the venom?").
i'll be very honest and say that i was hoping that i would discover that the jw's were wrong about some things, including the so-called "apostate" sites (i have been recommended to some internet sites and some books that i plan to investigate further).
i was hoping to find that people really didn't need the jw's "spiritual food" to remain true to god.
Pistoff, so much of what you said is exactly what I think/feel:
By nature, I am skeptical and analytical. In the truth, that could only be applied to matters outside of the system of belief.
Oh, this is exactly how I feel!
Seattleniceguy, you wrote:
Beliefs don't just "happen to you," unless you're incapable of thought. You are obviously a clear thinker, so I don't think you need to worry about that.
i know many people will get angry at this, but i had to share some observations i've had since i discovered this board a couple of days ago (see my original post under "why all the venom?").
i'll be very honest and say that i was hoping that i would discover that the jw's were wrong about some things, including the so-called "apostate" sites (i have been recommended to some internet sites and some books that i plan to investigate further).
i was hoping to find that people really didn't need the jw's "spiritual food" to remain true to god.
As you've not been a witness, you wouldn't have experienced that total restriction of intellectual freedom.
I definitely know what you mean, though. That's one of the parts that's so difficult to accept about the Witnesses: the ostensible lack of any type of creative thinking. In my first Watchtower study meeting, I became so frustrated at what I considered the elementary level of the questioning. Many of the questions require only an answer directly taken from the paragraph that has just been read, and many of the people who respond use the exact wording in the paragraph to answer the question! That still makes me want to roll my eyes. Once in a while, someone will expand on an answer, giving some details that they've researched or sharing a personal story in relation to the topic; I enjoy those answers.
I guess I should have framed my initial post differently. I should have indicated that it seems to me that many people who formerly believed in the bible and God no longer seem to believe in either once they leave the Jehovah's Witnesses. As many here have indicated, that is their choice, but on my end, I'd never want to have that happen to me, which is why I posted my concern.
I have a feeling that what I'll end up doing is continuing to attend the Sunday meetings and the book study meetings and possibly hand out some brochures informally. I don't see myself actually joining the Witnesses because of the concerns I have.
this is why i left...... http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/38146/1.ashx.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/8/46670/1.ashx .
tyler is my brother.. for more stories like this look here.. http://silentlambs.org/.
Hi, Avishai. I read some of the post, but I couldn't follow some of it. I suppose that was because of the editing.
If these allegations are true, then I think anyone would agree that such handling of the matter is not only criminal but evil. Is there anywhere I can find out the Watchtower's official stance on reporting child abuse (at this point, I'm hesitant to ask my bible study conductor because she'll undoubtedly realize I've been on the "apostate" sites)?
i know many people will get angry at this, but i had to share some observations i've had since i discovered this board a couple of days ago (see my original post under "why all the venom?").
i'll be very honest and say that i was hoping that i would discover that the jw's were wrong about some things, including the so-called "apostate" sites (i have been recommended to some internet sites and some books that i plan to investigate further).
i was hoping to find that people really didn't need the jw's "spiritual food" to remain true to god.
If this is how you feel about the people and the information provided here then he my suggestion is to go down to your local Kingdom Hall Sunday, crawling on your belly begging the elders for mercy and help. Tell them that the evil bunch of bashers on the JW Discussion Board proved they were right with Jehovah all along. With your kind of reasoning you should be back in good graces almost overnight, a MS within six months, an elder, two years max, and a CO within five years. Hell, you might make it straight to the governing body as soon as you claim you're one of the anointed. Sounds to me like you're ready That's uphill for sure.
Nah--not my style, but thanks for the suggestion.
i know many people will get angry at this, but i had to share some observations i've had since i discovered this board a couple of days ago (see my original post under "why all the venom?").
i'll be very honest and say that i was hoping that i would discover that the jw's were wrong about some things, including the so-called "apostate" sites (i have been recommended to some internet sites and some books that i plan to investigate further).
i was hoping to find that people really didn't need the jw's "spiritual food" to remain true to god.
Hi, Dave. You asked, "So I wondered if you were finding what the JW's said about apostate sites to be true, or not?"
Actually, I don't remember being told any specifics about apostate sites. I just got the general impression that they were bad news, that they could hinder one's spirituality.
