my niece who is 19 and involved with a "married" man had to meet with her jw's elders last week.
she was terrified because the elders have told her time and time again to get rid of her "married" boyfriend but she refused.
she is head over heels in love with the guy.
Gee, Danny, we all have our weak moments but you have implied that you thought seriously about going out in a blaze of gunfire, taking a bunch of stupid, asshole, JW's with you??? And you have written 45,000 pages to try and get justice dalt to this cong.?
That's interesting. But sad too. Sounds like they've still got you.
is the following information from the watchtower bible and tract society what the bible really teaches?
*** watchtower 1989 january 15 p.15 how baptism can save us *** how baptism can save us
"immersion .
This is a trick question, right?
is christ jehovah god?.
is christ jehovah god?
jehovah from jehovah?
Dear RevFrank, et al...
I mean no disrespect, nor do I want to spoil your fun, but when are you going to get over this horseshit? I have had a gutload of this kind of comparitive scripture analysis from the JW table. It seems you still believe there are REAL TRUTHS to be de-coded from the good ol' scriptures. Considering their omnipotence, if YHWH or JC really wanted us in on the skinny, he/she/it could get the message to everyone pretty damn easy, hell, Coca Cola gets the word out world wide with a few mil$ spent with a good ad agency. May I suggest you start trying to get your mind around the idea that there is NO GOD. What you see is what you get. But if you can't handle life in the nude, then by all means knock yourself out on this crap.
Best regards
cults do happen to students at penn state university.
cults do happen to students at penn state university.
"icoc is one of the most active cults not only at penn state, but on campuses across the country," he said.
Danny,
If young college people are vulnerable, imagine what those of us who were immersed in it from the cradle have had to overcome. I am 60 and have been out 25 yrs and I still marvel at how lucky I am.
one at a time.
guess the qoute above you and give one for the next person.
"nobody makes me bleed my own blood, nobody!
jonsey, right on. Thanks for the correct quote. That was a hell of a movie.
one at a time.
guess the qoute above you and give one for the next person.
"nobody makes me bleed my own blood, nobody!
"Badges? we don't need no stinking badges"
Treasure of the Sierra Madre
and
"....in 60 years I'll be broke"
Citizen Kane
"When you kill a man you take away everything he's got and everything he'll ever have"
A friend put me onto this site in Dec. when the BIG NEWS was still being anticipated. I'm an old timer in the XJW ranks but I've been getting on with my life (DF'd in '81) and have not had the "fire in the bones" to rent out my brain to debunking the WTS that I had in the early days of my emancipation. This site is so well run and extensive I have truly gotten excited again about fighting the WTS hold on people.
As many have said, the internet makes all the difference. At the Gadsen, Alabama meeting in '83 that brought forth the BR&CI hotline, the most exciting media technology we talked about employing was VIDEO tapes. And a very good video was produced by Leonard ----- of San Diego,CA. And we all owe Ron Frye a debt of gratitude for the beautifully written newsletters he has put out for years. But all of this is nothing compared to what this kind of site can now do in one day.
Especially for those who are still in the org. who for various reasons, family & mate pressure, job pressure, etc. These folks can sneak onto JWD and get solid information and support. At first they might feel like a junior high school kid looking at porn but after getting a breath of JWD's fresh air they will get bolder.
I also hope the people behind this site make a good living at it. The demographics put forth on this thread look very good for the future.
this is the word of jehovah: alas!
for that day is a great one, so that there is no other like it.
the sound of trembling we have heard, dread, look!
I see Prophet22 has chewed through his restraints and got on the 'pooter.
we don't talk to them anymore, but a couple of years ago when we did, my boyfriend's jw mom and sisters all of a sudden decided that they were "vegetarians.
" they decided it was wrong to eat jehovah's animals, and plus, they said it was "healthier" anyway.
i found this to be pretty ridiculous for a few reasons.. one, they were not really vegetarians.
The Golden Age mag. (later changed to "Awake!") used to have fairly regular articles on kooky 'health' issues. Always something out there on the fringe. I'll never forget the big flap over cooking in aluminum. For years after, whenever my Grandmother would eat a meal in someone else's home she would point blank ask if the food had been cooked in aluminum. If it was, she wouldn't eat it and would make sure the host was lectured on the evils of aluminum, citing the Faithful and Discrete Slave as the authority. I don't think I ever met a witness who did not fervently believe in chiropractic
My observation is that people with obsessions on diet, health, natural cures, chiroquacktic verses the evil medical establishment ("they won't tell you to eat right, or take natural herbs, or go to a chiropractor etc. because that would put them out of business.") are really practicing a form of religious belief that gives them a feeling of control and comfort. It fit the JW mindset like a glove.
as it says on the tin - thoughts please?..........
Well respected elder with wife and teenage daughters. Wife gets DF'd. Elders daughters find him drunk one night. They strip off and have sex with him. Not only was he not DF'd, he was pointed out as a good example!
His name was Lot.
