Would it make any sense if satan were a philosopher? Guess it would depend on whos "truth" he was seeking. Could you seek your own "truth"? Seems kind of silly doesn't it, guess the object would be to have others seek your "truth". Would they not be worshipping you if they are seeking your "truth". oops did I stumble on something here?
DavidChristopher
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Christianity and Philosophy - Was it a good mix?
by PeLe, ThE Soccer King inhistory shows that philosophical thinking influenced theology and christendom doctrines development in many ways.
some people like 18th century historian edward gibbons see similarities in plato trinity and nicean creed.
others have seen for instance, in plato doctrine of ideas (that there is a perfect spiritual-like world where the ideal forms exists) or in soul immortality speculations a reference of some christians future hope to be in heaven and not in material world in earth.
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Christianity and Philosophy - Was it a good mix?
by PeLe, ThE Soccer King inhistory shows that philosophical thinking influenced theology and christendom doctrines development in many ways.
some people like 18th century historian edward gibbons see similarities in plato trinity and nicean creed.
others have seen for instance, in plato doctrine of ideas (that there is a perfect spiritual-like world where the ideal forms exists) or in soul immortality speculations a reference of some christians future hope to be in heaven and not in material world in earth.
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DavidChristopher
Who created philosophers? did satan?
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A concerted effort during a watchtower study?
by mkr32208 inwas thinking about this today!
what we need to come up with is something like crazies 586/7 list from watchtower sources showing the kings list.
then next time they have a prophecy watchtower study we could all go to different halls where no one would know us and have a prepared answer typed up with watchtowerese language something like;.
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DavidChristopher
I agree, but what exactly is the "kings list?" I am kind of lost, as I have not read a watchtower in about 8 years now.
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Christianity and Philosophy - Was it a good mix?
by PeLe, ThE Soccer King inhistory shows that philosophical thinking influenced theology and christendom doctrines development in many ways.
some people like 18th century historian edward gibbons see similarities in plato trinity and nicean creed.
others have seen for instance, in plato doctrine of ideas (that there is a perfect spiritual-like world where the ideal forms exists) or in soul immortality speculations a reference of some christians future hope to be in heaven and not in material world in earth.
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DavidChristopher
Philosophy is the search for truth. God is truth. Truth(God) will set you free. So it would seem, that philosophy is the search for God. It is a highway, along the highway there are towns(religons)(doctrines) they all want you to come and live with them and follow their laws, rules and accept what they tell you is "right" and "wrong". Or you can keep walking down the road until you get to Jehovah's town where He is in charge. Question is....How do you know when you are there? I would guess that every question you could ever have would be answered with no problems whatsoever. I would even think they would be welcomed.
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Acts 8:37
by Shawn ini thought i knew a few things but it seems i was wrong.
i just stumbled upon the fact that there is no acts 8:37 in the nwt.
i can see why but i am curious how this has been justified to jws by the borg.
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DavidChristopher
I wonder if it has something to do with the fact, the uunuch was "set free", didn't have to go see Phillip three times a week, pay him money to understand the bible, spend the rest of his life following Phillip, Or having Phillip pray for him and teach him.
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Jesus, the people of his day, and of theology
by drew sagan ini'm sure this has been discussed before on this board, but since i'm new i'll throw it out there anyway.
the watchtower never reveals what the people (mainly jews) of jesus day held as to the afterlife.
it is true that the scribes and pharisees had terrible ideas mixed with greek philosophy and that they stumbled the people.
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DavidChristopher
So basically you are saying That all scriptures are NOT inspired by God, or He made some mistakes. Which is it?
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A concerted effort during a watchtower study?
by mkr32208 inwas thinking about this today!
what we need to come up with is something like crazies 586/7 list from watchtower sources showing the kings list.
then next time they have a prophecy watchtower study we could all go to different halls where no one would know us and have a prepared answer typed up with watchtowerese language something like;.
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DavidChristopher
Funny, I was thinking about this plan of yours. If enough people were to do it, would new people coming in then be looked at very suspiciously? Ha! They may make them sign a contract to keep their mouths shut and not ask any questions, go through a metal detecter, and submit to a cavity search. That will pack the hall Is this considered "spiritual warfare"? If so I like it. It would probably be met with a change where audience practicipation is no longer practiced. (reminds me of chess) What would be the next move? Or would one be needed?
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What if a "leader" defended people rather than judging and punishing them?
by DavidChristopher ini have often wondered this...everyone wants to be a leader.
so if a leader defended people, and others wanted to be like him, would everyone defend others now it seems "cool" to be a punisher and judge, what if the president changed and started defending people accused of things?
jesus that i read about would, and did.
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DavidChristopher
Yes, I would say that for a human to be able to discern that persons intentions and heart, would be an extremely hard task. For example, the 5th admendment is a major problem in our current system of "justice". If we don't question the person, as to why they did what they did. How can we show them the error of their ways? How can you prevent others from doing the same thing? Could that person ever repent or "rehabilitate" if they really felt they did nothing wrong? Could you give me 20 years for stealing food for my starving family(bad example) am I going to regret what I did? Am I going to hate and resent the one who gave my the time? I think we all have to justify our actions to our selves, and that, is where the answer lies. Destroy that "justification". That goes up pretty high too. Crime for example, Could I fight high gas prices by going after gas station clerks? It seems pointless to try to find answers to problems by fighting and chasing the "results" rather than the "cause". Although, fighting the cause, can be a long and drawn out process you can make alot of money at, and you will never have to worry about being out of work. For example, if you bring me your car for a misfire, and I pull the plug and see it is really wet with gas. I replace the plug, and it runs smooth again, I call you and tell you to come and get it. 2 weeks later you are back for another misfire, I charge you another $70 and replace the plug again. It becomes a routine and I make $70 every two weeks from you. What happens when you go somewhere else one day, and this guy goes deeper into it and finds you have an injector stuck open fouling that plug, and fixes it? Think I am going to go see him and thank him for fixing your car? Religon's also have this luxury, the worst things get out here, the more people pack into them, the more powerful they become. Think they are really are really searching for truth, and eagerly awaiting a savior to come and take over? In fact, they have the least faith in God of all, and I would say they are betting their lives He does not really exist and is not coming to take over. Well, I am betting mine He does, and is. I see these things by observing their actions, putting aside their appearances and pretty words. Could they prove to you I am wrong?
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A concerted effort during a watchtower study?
by mkr32208 inwas thinking about this today!
what we need to come up with is something like crazies 586/7 list from watchtower sources showing the kings list.
then next time they have a prophecy watchtower study we could all go to different halls where no one would know us and have a prepared answer typed up with watchtowerese language something like;.
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DavidChristopher
good question.....
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Jesus, the people of his day, and of theology
by drew sagan ini'm sure this has been discussed before on this board, but since i'm new i'll throw it out there anyway.
the watchtower never reveals what the people (mainly jews) of jesus day held as to the afterlife.
it is true that the scribes and pharisees had terrible ideas mixed with greek philosophy and that they stumbled the people.
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DavidChristopher
well, I could be wrong, but were they expecting Christ to come again in Their lifetimes? Surely they would have known better than that.