in thread:.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/21475/1.ashx.
we were informed that the tower had changed the earthquake "sign of the times" - "they're not increasing; they're just there - and that's proof enough" is apparently the new way of looking at things.
I bet that if you did a straw poll amongst JW's over 99% are not aware of the new light regarding
earthquakes, in fact only last night a sister made a comment at the meeting about there being more earthquakes since 1914 and the Service Overseer taking the item agreed with her.
It will be interesting to see how many bros pick it up in the new worship book.
Cas
when i was 11 or 12, my best friend (who's father was also an elder) suggested i get some of my mom's cigarettes for us to smoke.
sounded like a good idea, so i did and we tried it.
i thought it was horrible, but she had done it before and whatever.
Welcome to the board.
Your story is very interesting as it tells the story of most typical witness children forced in to baptism over the past few decades.
However you will note that over the past couple of years most elders are trying to put off their children from baptism at a young age simply because of the fact that the odds are stacked against them ie they don't want them disfellowshipped as a minor, however more on that point in a thread I intend to post later.
I think that most will really feel for you on this board because of your experiences with the "truth", and will feel that you have made the right move talking about it on a board such as this, I am sure that you will find the support and help that you need.
As to the question of your baptism being valid... I haven't read your other posts but are you Dfed or Daed?
According to the society rules your baptism is valid, the only thing that can really invalidate it is mental health or the like and even this is very rare.
However that is the society rules, I suggest that you use your own rules in life and decide for yourself whether it was valid or not.
As regards to legal action, this road would not be a wise one as ecclicastical law is very complex and weighs heavily in the favour of the religious body.
Cas
Please feel free to PM anytime
i personally didn't smell anything funny inside a kh.
lol.
but do anyone of you have had bad experiences like having to hold your breath because the person sitting right next to you really smelled?
I was originally down to give the speech counsel talk tonight, and it is on washing your body.
I could have really gone to town with examples experiences and illustrations, in fact some of yours would have been hilarious to relate.
Cas
i have arrived home after a reflective holiday, waaaaaaaaay to much .
time to think........ anyway the following is what i was listening to down there and .
pretty much sums up how i have been feeling about the truth,.
Viv, I did and thanx it beats listening to Feel anyday
Special
You think you're special
You do
I can see it in your eyes
I can see it when you laugh at me
Look down on me
You walk around on me
Just one more fight
About your leadership
And I will straight up
Leave your shit
Cause I've had enough of this
And now I'm pissed
Special
You think you're special
You do
I can see it in your eyes
I can see it when you laugh at me
Look down on me
You walk around on me
Just one more fight
About your leadership
And I will straight up
Leave your shit
Cause I've had enough of this
And now I'm pissed
*was wondering cuz I read your other post, and was thinking of you *
Thanx again for the kindness you and my other fellow posters show me every single day.
Caspian
he passed away last friday.
i never thought i'd ever enter a kingdom hall but we did it.
it wasn't a pleasant experience.
My prayers are with you at this sad time.
Cas
just ran across this beautiful example of circular reasoning from the watchtower.w85 12/1 31. .
questions from readers.
was the apostle paul part of the christian governing body?.
Good example.
you know the years I just took such statements as facts, I never questioned Jeeeez!
By the way
still ajwexelder every time I see your name i read it as exwelder
Cas
just to let you know that the s2 has come back from london with my deletion on it, so i expect it to be announced on thursday, it will be interesting to see how "my brothers and sisters" treat me.
anyway with regards to my experience to the new format of elders meetings.... some of you may be aware of the change to the format announced at the the elders seminar 2002 and in the subsequent letter, regarding the handling of an elder whose child has been involved in serious conduct.. basically the change is that a special elders meeting is held, where the elder is questioned by the body on why he thinks his child got into trouble?
was it his fault?
Yes of course Brother Nosey I do love my Golden Retriever, but not the way you suggest
Cas
just to let you know that the s2 has come back from london with my deletion on it, so i expect it to be announced on thursday, it will be interesting to see how "my brothers and sisters" treat me.
anyway with regards to my experience to the new format of elders meetings.... some of you may be aware of the change to the format announced at the the elders seminar 2002 and in the subsequent letter, regarding the handling of an elder whose child has been involved in serious conduct.. basically the change is that a special elders meeting is held, where the elder is questioned by the body on why he thinks his child got into trouble?
was it his fault?
Blueblades
Thats sounds awful, you must have found that really difficult.
It was strange that I went to the group last night, and it was the first time that I hadn't conducted a group in years, The PO came along to take it and despite there only being one other brother there I wasn't asked to say a prayer or read the paragraphs or any thing,
So now I am really interested to see how the PO words the announcement tomorrow night.
Will it be
1. Brother Caspian has resigned as an elder due to personal circumstances and , we would like to thank him for all of his hard work over the years etc........ (Congregation Thinks Ahhhhhhhh!)
or
2. This is a congregation announcement to inform you that Bro Caspian no longer serves as an elder.(Congregation thinks is it adultery? , is he gay? apostate? does he love his dog tooooo much?)
We shall see.
Caspian
just to let you know that the s2 has come back from london with my deletion on it, so i expect it to be announced on thursday, it will be interesting to see how "my brothers and sisters" treat me.
anyway with regards to my experience to the new format of elders meetings.... some of you may be aware of the change to the format announced at the the elders seminar 2002 and in the subsequent letter, regarding the handling of an elder whose child has been involved in serious conduct.. basically the change is that a special elders meeting is held, where the elder is questioned by the body on why he thinks his child got into trouble?
was it his fault?
Jourles
I have kept copies of all my BOE letters, Circuit Outlines and letters to all travelling overseers.
In the main they aren't usually exciting however a few are still interesting reading.
Metatron as usual you have hit the nail on the head.
Blue blades, I imagine that your deletion was at a meeting in which you where present as that was the thinking at the time.
Am I correct?
Wannaexit.
I wonder why these guys are not removed
There will always be certain elders who can get away with anything simply because of who they are,
Caspian
just to let you know that the s2 has come back from london with my deletion on it, so i expect it to be announced on thursday, it will be interesting to see how "my brothers and sisters" treat me.
anyway with regards to my experience to the new format of elders meetings.... some of you may be aware of the change to the format announced at the the elders seminar 2002 and in the subsequent letter, regarding the handling of an elder whose child has been involved in serious conduct.. basically the change is that a special elders meeting is held, where the elder is questioned by the body on why he thinks his child got into trouble?
was it his fault?
Min
The letter just refers to an elders child committing a "serious sin"
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/tmp/BOE20020318.pdf
Cas
