Read 'Crisis of Conscience.' And boy did things then fall into place.
Posts by alanv
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16First "Apostate" Thing I've Done
by scotinsw injust been on facebook and saw a friend of a "friend" had a truth box which is anonymous.
i sent a little message to them!.
probably will get ignored and they will think that the evil apostates are out to get them but still, it made me feel like i'm getting over the whole witless thing.. so.....what was the first "apostate" thing you ever did?.
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Incoming communication from Borg elder
by sd-7 ini guess it's about time to post on what happened over the weekend.
i was telling my old pal jamiebowers about it and she thought it was hilarious.
thought i might retell the tale on a thread of its own.. so, i dropped my wife off at the kh for her cult recruitment activities.
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alanv
I'm not sure I would say it was hilarious like Jamie did, but what I would say is that if you were disfellowshipped and have no intention of going back, why not tell them the reasons. I'm sure since leaving you must have found a wealth of imfo. about the JWs.
I really wish I could do that, I would love to share with them what many ex witnesses have found out about this fake org. Unfortunately I had to fade as I have family still in and clearly don't want to lose them from my life.
Maybe if you get accosted again you can tell them why you are not going back. Good luck for the future and enjoy a borg free life.
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I'm Going To The Watchtower Headquaters Next Week And I Have A Question
by Blue Grass innext week i plan on going to new york to get a songbook in a foreign language for a district convention that i will be attending next month.
i'm first going to go to bethel and get directions to the headquarters where they keep all their literature because i can't find it on google maps.
my first question is will they let me in to get directions or literature if i'm wearing jeans and a t-shirt.
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alanv
I'm sure they will let you in. As a JW they would expect you to obey their spiritual direction that you should dress up. However I don't believe they will make an issue of it. Let us know how you got on.
I imagine providing you make a donation to the WT for any literature you take, they couldn't care less if you are a witness or not.
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I think its a good thing nobody gets or even notices the generation change "new light"
by cognac inno matter what the society does to try to attempt to fix this generation debacle, there is no way they can ever get it in jwa minds that the end will come past 2014.. nobody even gets or understands the change.
nobody cares.
generation will always mean to them up to 100 years!
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alanv
I think your right. They all have their own private ideas on it. To them it does not matter. They have been so indoctrinated that the gov body is the channel God is using, they simply stick with it believing any wrong understanding of scripture will be sorted out in time.
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Numbers of memorial
by etna ini don't know if anyone has this or if its available yet, but does anyone have the numbers of the partakers of the memorial this year?.
etna.
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alanv
OK So does anyone have the figures for the attendance at the memorial for this year. I would like to know the U K and world figures.
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Why are the British football team so useless?
by highdose inlast nights match was humiliating.
and lets face it... if they even make it to the semi's it will be amazing!.
ok you could say well they are playing agianst the best teams in the world... but other teams manage!?!.
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alanv
The team as a whole atually played pretty well. It was a silly mistake by the goalkeeper that robbed them of victory. Most people agree that England played the best
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The Generation Watchtower (TOMORROW!) and The Cough of Incredulity
by slimboyfat inthe watchtower will be studied tomorrow that contains the new overlapping generations teaching.
paragraph 10 reads:.
"he evidently meant that the lives of the anointed who were on hand when the sign began to become evident in 1914 would overlap with the lives of other anointed ones who would see the start of the great tribulation.".
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alanv
I will be very surprised if the flock don't lap this up like lambs. They will probably say how it all makes so much more sense now. Sad
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One Idea for a Memorial to Ray Franz
by cabasilas inone idea for a memorial to ray franz:.
donate his two books to the local library.. crisis of conscience.
in search of christian freedom.
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alanv
Has anyone in USA thought about telling the news media of his death and his importance as someone who was formally on the gov. body of JWs.
He has helped so many get out from this cult.
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by betterdaze inthe irish times - tuesday, june 1, 2010. the stark choices that can mean life or deathmaurice neligan.
heart beat: patients wishes can make life more difficult for doctors.
and for these ends, to practise tolerance .
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alanv
Thank you for that betterdaze. Interesting stuff
In must be so hard to let someone die because of their (ever changing) beliefs. Particularly as you say, they could have dependant children.
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4/15/10 Jehovah's Earthly Organization twisting scriptures ......
by EndofMysteries insorry for the format, copy and paste this paragraphy from the pdf file.
my notes are in bold.
page 9, paragraph 12 second, jehovah uses his spirit to lead his organization in the direction that he wants it to go.
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alanv
This is exactly why the society print a public WT and a witness study WT.
The public in general would not accept much of what a witness would take as read. The witness has been indoctrinated to accept anything that is written by the 'slave' the public have not.