2017 figures released to bethel families worldwide:.
peak publishers: 8,457,107. total baptized: 284,212 .
regular pioneers: 1,225,279 .
Peak publishers show a 1.4% increase which is down slightly from last year. Memorial attendance is down at 0.5%. The hours these days are just stupid figures. Many of those hours are from witnesses sitting somewhere near their carts playing with their phones lol
Baptisms show a big increase of 7%. Maybe its mainly witness kids, after the big push this year for younger ones to get dipped. Regular pioneers are also up 7% The important figure is the average publishers, which we haven't seen yet.
december 4, 2017 to all congregations in britain and ireland re: changes to circuits.
I would have thought that the org would look at what is currently happening in the Uk when they decide what changes they should make in the future. They may have had reasonable increase in the past but certainly in the last few years it is next to nothing. Ireland is better, but they have very small numbers compared to UK.
inspired by this weeks clam article which again "reminds" the brothers pdf their obligation/privilege to donate "voluntarily" i have complied a list of articles or videos in the last 5 years where donations are indeed solicited or encouraged.
the society may argue that these are not actual solicitations because no plate was passed around.
but a donation box is just a more discrete and subtle version of the plate.
I used to pay for literature, but never put any money into the contribution box. I felt my time was more than enough.
december 4, 2017 to all congregations in britain and ireland re: changes to circuits.
Another bare faced lie by Watchtower. The UK increase over the last five years averages just over half a percent per year lol
i ask this because from what i read on this board lately is that they jw`s seem to be very reluctant to engage in conversation with anybody nowadays and are only interested in placing literature at carts.. and if anyone brings up questions in their d2d work that challenge them ( like the arc ) they will promptly excuse themselves and move on.
also didn`t jesus say "this good news of the kingdom would be preached in all the inhabited earth " for a witness ?.
when was the last time you heard a jw speak about "the good news of the kingdom" ?
Pomo, last year in UK the publisher increase was just 26. Certainly hours spent goes up every year and as counting time is so easy now (just standing by a cart and watching people walk by) its understandable how that figure can go up. Also even if bible studies go up, it doesnt seem to equate into more people becoming witnesses. I'm looking forward to seeing the 2017 worldwide report, to see what is happening in UK now.
for the december monthly broadcast instead of jws from around the world waving to you and items of how to shun people we will have to make do with repeats of of old gilead videos that have been on the jw website for a good while.
It makes no sense saying they have run out of things to say. They have produced countless numbers of books and magazines, often saying the same things for 140 years. They can just go over the same old ground if they need to.
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went to the meeting last night with my believing wife.
the co was visiting and delivered a really cult-ish talk on loyalty but that's another story.. they made the announcement that starting january 1st they were going to have only 3 congregations in this town instead of 4.. they are dissolving one and growing the territories of the remaining 3. the reason given is that many of the elders are getting up there in age and can't do what they used to do.
basically not enough elders and ministerial servants...or even men reaching out for that matter.
redvip, when they say that elders and mini servants are appointed by holy spirit, they simply mean those ones fit the qualifications given in the scriptures. If ones are not appointed, then the elders consider them lacking in one or more of those qualifications. Also although elders etc may fade or be kicked out, it doesnt change the fact that at one time they did meet the requirements. The org would point to Judas Iscariot as an example.
seen in the 03/2018 watchtower study :.
"during the 2017 service year, more than 284,000 “rightly disposed” individuals symbolized their dedication to jehovah by water baptism.".
https://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/watchtower-study-march-2018/baptism-requirement-for-christians/.
I dont think the org makes up the figures. Over the years they have reported many minus figures in different countries. Most who post on here are from USA and UK I think, so we would be surprised when we hear of increases. But those increases are not in the mainly developed world. They are often where people do not have the luxury of easy internet access. Once you drill into the figures you see why we think there is little increase. For instance in the UK last year there was an increase of just 26 publishers over the year. I also found that in the whole of Europe put together, there was no increase at all.
seen in the 03/2018 watchtower study :.
"during the 2017 service year, more than 284,000 “rightly disposed” individuals symbolized their dedication to jehovah by water baptism.".
https://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/watchtower-study-march-2018/baptism-requirement-for-christians/.
eyeuse2badub. Although there is a reasonable amount of people getting baptised each year, the figure does not tell you how many witnesses have left, either faded or disfellowshipped etc. In other words they got 280,000 in through the front door but also a large number out the back door. JWfacts has some good graphs of this on his website.
Hopefully if it is published we will see how many publishers have left later this month .
