I'm sure the society know very well that the peak publishers is not an accurate way of measuring congregational service activity. But they have gone with it because the average publisher figures look even worse than the peak publishers figures.
Posts by alanv
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38Analysis of 2017 vs 2016 Yearbook reports for Europe
by Splash inso these countries roughly constitute europe.. here's how well they did in 2017 vs 2016:.
2017 peak pubs.
2016 peak pubs.
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2017 Service Year Report Worldwide - INDIVIDUALLY LISTED LANDS and COUNTRIES
by darkspilver innow available:.
2017 service year report worldwide: table with individually listed lands and countries.
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alanv
darkspilver, thanks for clarification on the USA figures. Surely that is totally dishonest. They show peak figures for other lands, then because USA peak is so low they choose to publish the average figure.
I presume you are not in a position to publish other counties average publishers?
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2017 Service Year Report Worldwide - INDIVIDUALLY LISTED LANDS and COUNTRIES
by darkspilver innow available:.
2017 service year report worldwide: table with individually listed lands and countries.
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alanv
It seems very strange to me that Watchtower have not posted the average publishers for each country. Surely they know that the figure is more accurate than peak publishers which they have shown.
Also what is going on with USA?
2016 PEAK PUBLISHERS 1,231,609
2017 PEAK PUBLISHERS 1,232,293
THIS WORKS OUT AT 0.1% NOT 1%
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alanv
Thank you for your efforts in putting these graphs together. Very interesting.
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if pre 1975 you said "The system will still be here late 2017" what would be the J.W's reaction?
by karter inone word for it.....apostate!
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alanv
My wife was a very staunch JW. She said to me around 1994 If armaggeddon hasn't come by the year 2000 she would seriously think about leaving the org.
Unfortunately she died in 1998, so I will never know if she really would have left. But certainly shows the mindset of witnesses.
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Latest JW.org Statistics Are Confusing & Lack Context
by steve2 inearlier this week a new post on this forum announced that the 2017 worldwide annual service report was available on jw.org.
wow - that's earlier than the statistics for the 2016 service year which appeared in the 2017 yearbook last january!
good effort, jw organization!
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alanv
Steve, I think the confusion comes from the fact that you have to click on the 2017 Service report, before you get to see 'Related articles' headings on the right. All it says there is 'Jehovah's Witnesses around the world. You then click on that and get the 2016 figures for every country.
My guess is that those figures will be updated soon with the 2017 figures. However by just giving those very few facts, it is very hard for the average witness to realize things are not going well in their country, or in fact in most countries.
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Latest JW.org Statistics Are Confusing & Lack Context
by steve2 inearlier this week a new post on this forum announced that the 2017 worldwide annual service report was available on jw.org.
wow - that's earlier than the statistics for the 2016 service year which appeared in the 2017 yearbook last january!
good effort, jw organization!
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alanv
I think the 'fast facts section on jwdot org,are still showing 2016 highlights. It may well be they just havent got round to updating those figures to include the 2017 service year yet. We will see
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Latest JW.org Statistics Are Confusing & Lack Context
by steve2 inearlier this week a new post on this forum announced that the 2017 worldwide annual service report was available on jw.org.
wow - that's earlier than the statistics for the 2016 service year which appeared in the 2017 yearbook last january!
good effort, jw organization!
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alanv
What would be good, is for someone in USA to phone the branch and ask about the report for the individual countries. Would probably need a bit of deception to get it, but would be worth it to see what they say.
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Watchtower Releases 2017 Grand Total Figures!
by darkspilver in2017 grand totals.
branches of jehovah’s witnesses: 90. .
number of lands reporting: 240. .
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alanv
My guess is that they will update those figures to the 2017 figures. But it gives very little away about what is happening to the org in any particular country. These are the figures for Britain for instance.
- 65,111,143—Population
- 138,261—Ministers who teach the Bible
- 1,613—Congregations
- 1 to 471—Ratio of Jehovah’s Witnesses to population
- Most witnesses would have no idea from those figures how the org is doing. And certainly glancing at other countries most would have no idea at all if they were doing better or worse than last year.
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Watchtower Releases 2017 Grand Total Figures!
by darkspilver in2017 grand totals.
branches of jehovah’s witnesses: 90. .
number of lands reporting: 240. .
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alanv
I think you can trust the figures they have published. After all most are very bad. Like the 2 billion hours spent preaching. How anyone can say they are preaching when they sit playing with their phones next to a cart certainly beats me. The point about the report, is it is a snapshot of what has changed since last year. Most figures are worse, and show how the religion is slowly dying. It is no coincidence they have not shown the individual countries figures. Those figures are so bad especially in the developed world that witnesses would be discouraged rather than encouraged if they saw them.