alanv

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  Pioneering !

  by iknowall558 in

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  15 years ago

  question :.

  why is 'pioneering' a 'privilege' when every jw goes out in ministry anyway.

  even those who have lost privileges, or been disciplined, or been reinstated after being disfellowshipped are still expected to go out in the ministry.

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  alanv 15 years ago

  It is all to do with serving 100%. The society know that many can't do it because of family responsabilities but those with no ties are encouraged to do all they can. I gave up an apprentaship to regular pioneer because it was put to me what is the point in building a carrer in a dying system.

  Iknow. The reason you are expected to be exempary is because you are spending so much more time with the public. Just like a company rep. would have to be red hot when dealing with the public so too with a pioneer.

  Everyone who steps down from a position is viewed with extreme skeptasism. They always wonder if you are on your way out.

  The society are old hands at this. They know exactly what they are doing as would any worldwide business.

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  Bethel Layoffs

  by cantleave in

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  15 years ago

  could those who know about these lay offs give some clear evidence of what has happened, when, to who, any experiences of people effected and to what extent?.

  i want to talk to a really good friend about the situation.

  he is a young guy who feels he should be doing more for the organisation, and is thinking about giving up a very good career to make a more of his career in the "truth".

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  alanv 15 years ago

  Billy some really good answers there. You have to play them at their own game. It is hard for anyone not in the U S to see that the society are cutting back, especially with their apparant 4% increase in N. Americathis year.

  Cantleave. I suggest you search all the sites on the internet to find what would be helpful for your friend. Some things mean nothing to them whereas other things really hit a nerve. Good luck

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  CreativHoneys new Alias.. THE ELDERS CAME TO MY DOOR!!! NEED SOME SUPPORT.

  by creativjamspam in

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  2. experiences

  15 years ago

  hi all, - firstly a new alias, so i can use the gravatar function...- ill be using both for a while till this one kicks in.. .

  ok, so some of you know im dfd and my faded sister lives with me.. - today at about 1pm, the elder who dfd me turned up at my door.

  i was in bed - ive had a cold for three days and a hacking cough.. james came up and told me, and i said im not well, but my sense of motherliness kicked in and i thought, its not for my eleven year old son to deal with this.

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  alanv 15 years ago

  Remember that July 2009 Awake! Well notice these words on page 29:“No one should be forced to worship in a way that he finds unacceptable or be made to choose between his beliefs and his family.

  Sounds like that elder should read the societies own words. Clearly they are breaking their own rules. Hypocrites!

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  Have a laugh at these cringe-worthy Watchtower interpretations. JW's must be so embarrassed.

  by yadda yadda 2 in

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  15 years ago

  utterly embarrassing.

  how many jw's honestly believe these daft interpretations?

  hard to believe these are actually held out as current truth lol.

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  alanv 15 years ago

  Great job. All these dates and their interpretation was one of the reasons I left the org. It really is absolute rubbish.

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  I helped shovel my worldy neighbour's mailbox out; Elder did nothing!!

  by WingCommander in

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  15 years ago

  ok, it was sunday.

  this was the day after our large n'oreaster here in pennsylvania.

  we got 16" of snow in one day.

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  alanv 15 years ago

  To be fair to them, they are not all like that. My mother in law used to spend a lot of time simply helping an old lady near where she used to live. When my mother in law died the lady was heart broken and said she had never known such a fine christian lady. Incidently there was no preaching involved.

  So the moral is that there are good and bad among the witnesses just like anybody else.

  The point you made was valid though. Certainly an elder should go out of his way to help, but as I say there are good and bad.

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  How accurate is the Worldwide Report

  by nugget in

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  15 years ago

  i was talking with the cong secretary the other day and he told me that all reports are rounded up before they are sent to the society.

  i was just starting to think about how all this rounding up has an impact on the overall totals.. some publishers may round up or guesstimate their figures reporting additional time, congregation secretaries round up the cong report anything from 15 minutes to 45 minutes.

  when you start extrapollating that across all the publishers and all congregations the margin of error becomes enormous.. the report becomes less meaningful each month by the end of the year we are potentially millions of hours adrift of the actual number.

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  alanv 15 years ago

  If the rounding up is for the total publisher report for that month and you had 100 publishers doing 10 hours which equates to 1000 hours, then you are talking about .1% difference.

  However if the rounding up is for individual publishers going maybe from 9.25 to 10 hours a month then that could start to make a difference.

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  Attending my mum's JW wedding

  by iMARX in

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  15 years ago

  so i have to go to my mum's jw wedding in 2 weeks.

  it's not in a kh but there's still going to be about 40 jws there.

  apparently it's "widely-known" that i'm gay and some jws have even told my mum that it's not wise to invite me because it will make other people (jws) feel uncomfortable.

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  alanv 15 years ago

  Personally I think you should show them that even though you're gay, you are actually a very nice, caring person. JWs automatically think that anyone who carries on a life different from their own is a bad person. You have the chance to show them how happy and fulfilling your life is now.

  Just wondered as well why the wedding is not at a Kingdom Hall

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  Christmas, the worst time of year for Jehovah's Witnesses

  by koolaid-man in

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  15 years ago

  the holidays are here and they certainly do present a problem for jehovah's witnesses once again.

  christmas parties at work, getting christmas bonuses, dealing with holiday greetings, christmas carols, decorated trees and houses, santa claus everywhere, christmas candy, sleighbells ringing brings the witnesses into a very troubling and disturbing time of year.how do most witnesses handle it all?

  we will be discussing these questions with former witnesses and active witnesses on the conference call this saturday night, december 19,2009 at 7 p.m. the conference call is presented like a radio talk show program.

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  alanv 15 years ago

  Rick how about trying to get hold of the 2009 complete service report for Saturday. That would interest a lot of us.

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  2009 Annual Worldwide Service Report -- 7.3 Million Publishers

  by Joker10 in

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  15 years ago

  china: the number of publishers has increased.

  in some parts of the mainland, they can openly go door to door without much interference.

  there are actally buildings now used as kingdom halls.

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  alanv 15 years ago

  The figures may have come from the U S Kingdom Ministry. I got some of the U K report from the British edition a few weeks ago. The 2010 Yearbook should soon be out if it is not already and I'm sure we would all appreciate seeing a scanned copy on this site as soon as our American friends get a copy,

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  The book,In Search of Christian Freedom

  by pat1060 in

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  2. bible

  15 years ago

  i have been reading the book in search of christian freedom by r franz.i just finished the chapter on the house to house ministry....unbelieveble.

  he shows a totally different way of explaining the scriptures.i never realized how much the gb slants every thing to it's teachings.they need the nwt to do this.if you haven't read this book,you really should.what i'm wondering if you have read it,what stands out for you.....

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  alanv 15 years ago

  I would just add that anyone with any special privileges in the cong. ie Elders, Mini Servants or pioneers would not stay in those positions very long if they refused to share in the house to house work.

  The book is excellent. (except for it's size of over 700 pages) Every witness or ex witness should read it. It is a real eye opener.

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