Posts by alanv

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Who can guess the number closest to memorial partakers ?

by Chook in

my punt 16144 , do you like my last three numbers !.

alanv

Yes they cant keep on publishing the figure. It is one thing they can do something about. They have already got the sheep believing that many of the partakers could have mental problems, so they will say it is a meaningless number, and the jdubs will all nod hard in agreement.

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1975 - JWs in other countries, not just the U.S. also knew about the prediction

by deegee in

i have been wondering, if the 1975 prediction was just a rumour started by the rank & file as the wt claims, then how did jws in other countries, a part from the u.s., also come to know about the prediction?.

i started studying with the jws during the 80s when i was a child.

while attending one of my first meetings during that time, a brother commented during the wt study that armageddon did not come in 1975 because it was not known how many years after adam, eve was created.. at the time, i hadn't a clue what the guy was talking about.

alanv

I am from the UK, and my teenage friends and myself took what they said very seriously. We gave up our careers and regular pioneered. We had no doubt that what we were being told was the truth.

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After being in the so-called "Truth" makes me despise all religions.

by Fader812 in

after being a jw made me lose trust in religion, from the lies, hypocrisy and greed of this organization made me lose faith completely.

what does one do after this mind f$%@, what is there to look forward to?

do i make up my own agnostic theory in head and hope for the best?

alanv

Yes I am the same as you. Watchtower did a good job of showing the hypocrisy and lies in other religions, and I realized after a while they were no better, and in many ways worse. So now I am free to lead my life as I want to. I have no fear at all of some great being in the sky watching my every move. So loving life now and especially so as I am now retired.

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JW interview about cart work (English video)

by Gorbatchov in

jw
friends

http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/who-people-handing-out-leaflets-13263220.

alanv

What a joke they are these days, just standing or sitting around looking at their phones and deep in conversation with each other. How anyone in their right mind can call this preaching totally beats me.

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Oct 2017 WT again shunning instructions

by Daniel1555 in

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alanv

There is nothing new here. It has all been said before. They just like ramming the point home every now and again.

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Aust Census Data shows decrease while Yearbook shows increase

by shepherdless in

on threads about 8 or 9 months ago, i put up some detailed data from the 2011 and 2006 australian censuses.

data from the 2016 census is becoming available in stages, and i mentioned recently that i would do an update.

finally, as of about today, some data of interest is available, and i have started to look at this, but it is time consuming, and i am time-poor.. anyway, the first search i have conducted is just a simple breakdown of the number of people describing themselves as jw's.

alanv

I dont believe the Australian service report is wrong. Over the years the org has shown in many lands the figures, even when they are very bad. There would be no point printing figures that are wrong for just a few countries

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Jehovah's Witnesses on BBC World Service radio

by jw news 2017 in

it is supposed to shape every facet of the lives of its 8 million followers around the world.its beliefs set it apart not only from non-believers and other christian faiths.but what has emerged in recent years is an alleged catalogue of sexual abuse that has gone unreported and unpunished due to this adherence to the literal word of god.david cook meets the survivors of years of abuse who say their claims were ignored because of the lack of two witnesses to the crime, a major law of the organisation which it says is enshrined in the bible.jehovah’s witnesses deny they shelter any abusers but he will hear how some alleged abusers were allowed to remain part of the organisation because of the lack of witnesses.he will also investigate how this insular worldwide community is responding to mounting pressure to turn over decades of testimonies which could expose thousands more cases of abuse... "~ quoted text, and video image, from the web page:http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p056p7wgaudio of the programme:'heart and soul ~ witness protection' ~ broadcast on bbc world service at13:32 uk time, on 30th june 2017© copyright bbc world service © copyright bbc heart and soul

alanv

Thanks for posting. Great that t went out on the world service

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Baptismal Formula

by leftbehind in

quick question.

does anybody know what is said during the baptism i.e.

the actual dunking?

alanv

Maybe some said 'if you dont come up from the water, remember there is the resurrection'

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2017 Sunday RC Final Talk & Comments About 1975

by baldeagle in

many of us here have commented on the deceitful friday afternoon video shown at the 2017 rc that discussed 1975.. the video attempted to shift the blame onto congregation members for the fiasco saying, "some were looking to a certain date as signifying the end of this old system of things.".

this same video mentions how, “a few even went so far as selling their homes and quitting their jobs.”.

we all know that the wt leadership created this teaching and endorsed it right up to its abject failure.. now below is the concluding talk given on sunday at the rc.

alanv

The further we get from 1975, the more the org can safely talk about it if they need to, as so many from that time are no longer around. But luckily todays retired generation are around and we can show very clearly from the orgs own literature how it was them, not the witnesses themselves that grew all the excitement about the end coming. Food at the proper time? What a joke.

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7 day conventions?

by HereIgo in

did any of you attend the old school week long conventions?

i have heard stories and it seems like these were mostly in the 70's and 80's before my time.

i couldn't imagine.

alanv

I think by 1969 it was just 4 days. I cant even imagine being there for more than that