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Holiday Viewpoints and Former Jehovah's Witnesses

by The wanderer in

jw
friends

holiday viewpoints and former jehovah's witnesses being in the organization the viewpoint was that holidays were.

of pagan origin.

whether it was halloween, christmas, easter.

whyizit

col.3:16-17

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Holiday Viewpoints and Former Jehovah's Witnesses

by The wanderer in

jw
friends

holiday viewpoints and former jehovah's witnesses being in the organization the viewpoint was that holidays were.

of pagan origin.

whether it was halloween, christmas, easter.

whyizit

col.3:16-17

28

Holiday Viewpoints and Former Jehovah's Witnesses

by The wanderer in

jw
friends

holiday viewpoints and former jehovah's witnesses being in the organization the viewpoint was that holidays were.

of pagan origin.

whether it was halloween, christmas, easter.

whyizit

col.3:16-17

28

Holiday Viewpoints and Former Jehovah's Witnesses

by The wanderer in

jw
friends

holiday viewpoints and former jehovah's witnesses being in the organization the viewpoint was that holidays were.

of pagan origin.

whether it was halloween, christmas, easter.

whyizit

col.3:16-17

28

Holiday Viewpoints and Former Jehovah's Witnesses

by The wanderer in

jw
friends

holiday viewpoints and former jehovah's witnesses being in the organization the viewpoint was that holidays were.

of pagan origin.

whether it was halloween, christmas, easter.

whyizit

col.3:16-17

28

Holiday Viewpoints and Former Jehovah's Witnesses

by The wanderer in

jw
friends

holiday viewpoints and former jehovah's witnesses being in the organization the viewpoint was that holidays were.

of pagan origin.

whether it was halloween, christmas, easter.

whyizit

col.3:16-17

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Christmas and the WTS -- Never been a JW, have questions!

by whyizit in

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friends

i was recently reading some older wts articles.

it was obviously during a time when christmas was approved of by the wts.

i was considering sending copies (incognito, of course) to my jw friends.

whyizit

I was recently reading some older WTS articles. It was obviously during a time when Christmas WAS approved of by the WTS.

I was considering sending copies (incognito, of course) to my JW friends.

I know that one of the first objections would be "there's been new light"since then. I thought about sending a note asking a few questions concerning the WTS quotes. Such as: "Since the WTS teaches the opposite point of view now, what are we to believe? That God changes His mind? Or that the WTS is making up doctrines from the current leader's own opinions?"

These are a few of the quotes. I have the actual pages from the books. I was planning to send photo copies:

The Watchtower, Dec. 1, 1904, pg.364 - since the celebration of our Lord's birth is not a matter of divine appointment or injunction, but merely a tribute of respect to him, it is not necessary for us to quibble particularly about the date. We may as well join with the civilized world in celebrating the grand event on the day which the majority celebrate-"Christmas day."

The Watchtower, Nov.15, 1907, pg. 351 - It might interest you to know that we are already offering the books for "Chrsitmas gifts."

The Watchtower, Dec.15, 1926, pg.371 - The event is so important that it is always appropriate to call it to the minds of the people, regardless of the date.

With Christmas around the corner, I just wondered if you thought it might be helpful for current JWs to perhaps see that it was not always necessary for them to exclude themselves from family gatherings. A few of my JW friends seem very conflicted this time of year. Perhaps it would be a good time to help promote a miracle?

What do you think? What do you think their internal thoughts may be? (Since I would doubtfully hear any feedback from them personally?) Has anyone here ever put together anything similar to this for their JW friends and family?

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Question for ex-JWs who are Christians

by whyizit in

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friends

i noticed that many who post here have kind of thrown the "baby out with the bathwater", when it comes to the bible and god.. i understand that there is a fine line between love and hate.

maybe they blame god for the deception.

maybe they don't trust anything to do with god any more.

whyizit

Daystar:

Thank you! I sure didn't mean to offend you, and I am sorry if I did!

I'll try to pick my words and phrases a little more carefully, but I really didn't think any one would read so much into what I said!

For the record:

I am appreciative of ALL who post on this subject. If they left the WTS and did not become a Christian, and they want to tell how that came about, that is great! There is something to learn from those experiences as well.

Personally, I wanted to hear how people were able to become Christians when they moved on from the WTS. It interests me.

I

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Question for ex-JWs who are Christians

by whyizit in

jw
friends

i noticed that many who post here have kind of thrown the "baby out with the bathwater", when it comes to the bible and god.. i understand that there is a fine line between love and hate.

maybe they blame god for the deception.

maybe they don't trust anything to do with god any more.

whyizit

Sunspot:

More is being read into the "throwing the baby out with the bathwater" than what I actually meant.

Things are being read into my post that I did not intend. My assumption is that most who are here are former JWs, who at one time loved God. The same God I love, but that was misrepresented by the WTS. Many, (not all, not most) seem to have decided that there is no God, or that Christianity is a lie.

If that is insulting or slanerous to anyone, I'm genuinely sorry! I didn't mean it that way. But I do hope others who have left the WTS and went on to become Christians will continue posting their experiences. It is a very important topic to me and I would gain a lot from the input.

It may help others as well.

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Question for ex-JWs who are Christians

by whyizit in

jw
friends

i noticed that many who post here have kind of thrown the "baby out with the bathwater", when it comes to the bible and god.. i understand that there is a fine line between love and hate.

maybe they blame god for the deception.

maybe they don't trust anything to do with god any more.

whyizit

I love hearing about your experiences. Thanks for participating. Hopefully there will be more to come. I especially love when you mention the Bible verses or books of the Bible that spoke to you in such a personal way!

Have any of you ever been involved in any cult-exit groups? Do you know where I could find info. on how to possibly start one in my area? Not just for JWs, but for anyone who thinks they may have been in a cult?