not sure what UBMs are.. but I'm a non-witness who is head over heels in love for a girl eventhough we've been broken up for 3 months. I think a lot of it has to do with finding a girl with a good moral sense. I remember before I knew her religious affiliation, I was attracted to the fact that she was gorgeous and didn't need to show it off. She dressed conservatively and that was a real turn on for me. She was very humble and down to earth. She was pretty calm, not arguementative, and had good conflict management skills. We got along great. She didn't party or drink too much, didn't smoke had no tatoos and after you see what's out there, it's a breath of fresh air. I know I'm torturing myself here....but I don't know what else to do. Religion was the only issue.
Kristofer
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UBMs - why do we love JWs??
by Super_Becka ini think there's been a thread on this before, but i figured i'd ask again.. for all of the ubms out there, why is it that we love witnesses??
what is it about them that we find so attractive??
why are we putting ourselves through this mess when we know full-well that there are lots of non-jws out there who would be better for us??.
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Do they themselves believe?
by Kristofer insometimes i wonder, with the number of letters that the wt receives refuting doctrine & practices, does the gb really buy what they put out?
or are they just pushing literature and living off the collections from congregations.
i would think that if i received overwhelming evidence of the faultiness of my religion, i'd be forced by my own conscience to change or speak up or make a difference.
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Sometimes I wonder, with the number of letters that the WT receives refuting doctrine & practices, does the GB really buy what they put out? Are they really self-convinced? Or are they just pushing literature and living off the collections from congregations.
I would think that if I received overwhelming evidence of the faultiness of my religion, I'd be forced by my own conscience to change or speak up or make a difference. But perhaps the money is too good to change? I wonder if the GB are actually "jehovah's witnesses" any more. -
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im in love with a Jehovah's Witness
by saddler ini've fallen in love with a jehovah's witness and i know she feels the same way about me but the problem is that im a methodist and cant find it in me to give up my faith and become a jehovah's witness as i would not expect her to give up her faith and it is driving us both crazy.
i've known this lovely lady for the past 8 years and have only now told her how i feel and every second im away from her im thinking of her wanting to be with her.
so im asking people who might know or be able to help
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Kristofer
wow, our situations are almost identical. However, mine just ended and I'm still hanging on. I thought perhaps we could come to an agreement about child-raising but in the end, she chose her faith. She said her love for Jehovah is greater than her love for me. I think she did the admireable thing. It just pains me that while she is doing the right thing in her own heart and mind, it's all a farse!
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April KM - Handbill Distribution
by stillajwexelder inwell it is official - the april km has the details of the handbill campaign.
we are to be given 50 handbills each and start a distribution for 3 weeks before the district convention.
we are supposed to cover our entire territory.
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Kristofer
are non-witnesses ever invited to attend District Conventions?
Do they all happen at the same time across the country?
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How DARE he?! This is why I'm still Single!!!
by stillAwitness inwell, i was dating this guy and its been a long time since i have even been with anyone that i thought was worthwhile.
i've been focusing on other things and with everything else going on with trying to gain my independance i just have not wanted to get caught up.
anyways, how dare the guy i was seeing call the whole jw mind-cult issue "stupid" when i tried to explain to him why i am the way i am (awful social skills, the simple excitement from just being around a new scene, etc.
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Kristofer
Being someone from the outside, I can tell you, he truly doesn't grasp or comprehend what it means to be a JW. My ex...which I am hoping will come back one day is the reason I am here. There was so much that went on...so many secrets, mysteries..a complete lack of intimacy and emotion that was just foreign to me. It is the reason why I am here and it is the reason I choose to talk to the JWs that have now been regularly coming to my door for the past 3 months. It's therapeutic. It is helping me understand why everything was the way it was. Even though I feel like I can grasp it I know I still don't fully understand. And when I say understand, I mean the ability to empathize, not just sympathize. It's hard for many guys and just many people to put themselves in other peoples' shoes and really see the world through their eyes. Your boyfriend doesn't get it and may never get it. You may need a different support system while you are making your way out of the organization.
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Could the GB be using this forum?
by Kristofer ini sometimes wonder if perhaps some of the higher ups in the organization are visiting this forum.
perhaps it has become a valuable source for them to "test the waters" before something goes public to see what the reaction would be?
am i overreacting?
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Kristofer
I sometimes wonder if perhaps some of the higher ups in the organization are visiting this forum. Perhaps it has become a valuable source for them to "test the waters" before something goes public to see what the reaction would be? Am I overreacting? Does anyone else have thoughts on this?
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What Would It Take For Your JW Family/Friend To Get Out?
by minimus inis there anything that might get your witness relative or friend out of the "truth"??
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A miraculous act of God.
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salvation & sins research
by Kristofer ini am trying to do research on whether christ's death covered even future sins, not just original sin by adam.
anyone have helpful scriptures?
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Kristofer
I am trying to do research on whether Christ's death covered even future sins, not just original sin by Adam. Anyone have helpful Scriptures?
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How is it that... (PLEASE provide input)
by AuldSoul induring my discussion with death to the pixies i hit on something that he brushed off as irrelevant.
in trying to make it clearer for him why the question mattered to me i stumbled across the best proof for myself that this cannot be god's organization and the bible students/jws have been being lied to from the beginning.. in 1930 over 80,000 professed anointed had no clue that they were god's sole channel of communication to mankind, even though jehovah's witnesses now teach that the anointed have been that sole channel ever since pentecost of 33 c.e.. question #1: how is it possible that god's channel of communication didn't even know they were his channel of communication?.
question #2: if the true anointed brothers of christ have always been god's sole channel of communication to mankind since penetcost 33 c.e., why would jesus need to choose them in 1919; didn't he already know who god's channel was?.
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Kristofer
sorry, I'm not sure why this isn't making sense to me.. I mean, the point makes sense. But is it really true they didn't consider themselves to be God's channel of communication at one time? I thought Russell preached this from the beginning...
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Tremendous changes in a short time.....
by AK - Jeff ini mean if you think about it - and i might be off on the time a little - in the past 6 months we have heard of the following;elimination of the hard cover biblereducing of awake to monthly additionsdownsizing at bethel worldwideelimination of bethel elders.
there may be others that i forgot about.
but these are all very significant, and they are all happening at once, in a relative sense.those of us in the apostate circles may not realize just how the total impact might be on the flock.
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Kristofer
how often was AWAKE produced before?