Posts by Kristofer

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I fell in love with a JW.....

by hampstead in

we both fell in love.

hard.

we are not two little kids, although it has felt like it at times.

It's your very situation that brought me to this board. I'm not and never was a JW, my ex-girlfriend is. I haven't seen her face for 9 months now. We maintained contact through the phone until this past May. She told me everything would be ok if I was a JW. But I don't buy into it's mistranslations, deceitful interpretations and doctrines of men. She had to let me go. I was ready to marry her, to take her away. In some ways she's the better person because she always knew that she'd go back to The Org. She had the strength to walk away from me and I'm the fool that would do anything for love. Not a day goes by that I don't miss her and wish we were together but I know deep down that my feedom, my faith and my happiness was at stake. I can't say that I'm happy we aren't together, but I'm happy I didn't become a JW. Ya know, I never thought I'd hear from her again as long as I lived. However, she called me two weeks ago, just to let me know she was alive and to see how I was doing. Deep inside me, I still hold on to hope. She would never listen to any of the information I would give her. She was in too deep for it. Yet still, I hold on to the hope that something will happen in the future. I think you've got to trust God. Never compromise who you are or what you believe. If she loves you enough, you'll be together. If not, and heart-break is the only outcome, I'm sure there are reasons it is all happening this way, lessons will be learned and who knows where the whole experience will take you next. Have faith my friend and trust in God. Stay strong -K-

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Trinity discussion - link me up please

by Inquisitor in

i remember once reading someone's post where he/she used an excellent scripture that strongly suggests that jesus is god.

i think the point was that jesus was going to raise "the temple" which is his body, i.e.

jesus will resurrect himself.

Kristofer

Links I believe will assist you http://home.comcast.net/~neirr/believeintrinity.htm excellent essay in response to The Watchtower publication (including a brief discussion of John 1:1) http://www.carm.org/jw/john1_1.htm Discussion of John 1:1 just some other thoughts: In the Old Testament there are references to God's Holy Spirit and what is referred to as the Angel of the Lord. Most early church Father's recognize that the "Angel" of the Lord was more than a mere Angel. There are several references to Angel of The LOrd that infer that it is God himself including the one speaking through the burning bush to Moses as well as the name given to Jacob, "Israel" which means "he who wrestles with God" after he wrestled with the Angel of The Lord. Also note that Scripture says that THE WORD saw it not robbery to be equal with God. But that he emptied and humbled himself lower than the angels. Simply, you do not seek what you have. He was equal with God and was clearly above the angels in order to lower himself. Several texts in the NT have the scribes and pharisees making an acknowledgement that Jesus was saying things that make him Equal to God. Though he never stopped being God when he became man, he relinquished himself of his power and authority in order to live and suffer as a man. So that everything done while he was on earth was given to him by The Father. Even Jesus stated that he has the power to take leave his life and take his life up again. John 10:17 Notice also where The Watchtower renders Jehovah to the all the places where KURIOS is in the New Testament EXCEPT for where it says JESUS is JEHOVAH in Philippians 2:11. THey leave it as Jesus Christ is Lord, eventhough the Greek says Kurios. For sake of keeping this post short, that's all I'll write for now.

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Aposta-Mag!

by Kristofer in

jw
friends

so i've pondered the idea of making a one-time publication like the awake!

magazine which educates the reader on jw doctrine, the brief history, false prophecy, biblical defense and an exposure of changing doctrines, cover-ups and lies.

it would include a list of website links to keep the mag brief and they could go to sites for more indepth research.

Kristofer

So I've pondered the idea of making a one-time publication like the Awake! magazine which educates the reader on JW doctrine, the brief history, false prophecy, biblical defense and an exposure of changing doctrines, cover-ups and lies. It would include a list of website links to keep the mag brief and they could go to sites for more indepth research. Then following the same field work the congregation does and passing one out to every household.
I know you might say that this is too much work (which it is..) or that THAT much time and mind shouldn't be paid to The Org...
Somehow, though, I can't help but think of the immense satisfcation that would be had in knowing that every person a JW approached on field service had knowledge of the group and the tools to respond to them. I can imagine the hilarity of JW's running away from doorsteps with their hands flailing in the air thinking the entire neighborhood has gone Apostate!
Your thoughts?
Has this been done before? It seems like it would have been.

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Things peculiar to your country!

by lowden in

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friends

ok, if i came to your country (usa, canada, france, holland, oz....wherever) what should someone experience or sample before they leave....to give them a true taste of your homeland.

limit it to 5 per post....if you can.. i'll start with england/britain.. english ale, the lake district (england), to get a true taste of england visit the city of bath (or maybe stratford, though a bit too touristy), sample some black pudding (blood sausage .

c'mon you patriots!!!!.

Kristofer

Thanks Lowden! I'm marking this thread! I plan to visit the UK soon. So tell me..anything in Ireland of interest?

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Why do you have YOUR faith?

by FreedomFrog in

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friends

faith is the belief in something that there is no proof in.

christians believe in jesus, pagans believe in goddesses, atheist believe in no god and so on.... so everyone has put their "faith" in something one way or another.

even if you have put your "faith" in you...what made you choose?

Kristofer

There is something to be said about someone when they believe in you. There is an element of trust involved. It's like if I tell a friend I'm gonna show up at a party. He can either have faith that I'll show up, even though there is no proof, or he can say, "I'll believe it when I see it."
Which has more of an element of intimate trust?

I suppose God can come down and say..."here i am, TADDA!"
But that whole element of trust and faith which are virtues in and of themselves would be lost.
To have faith in God is to say that we believe and trust in him. Whether it be a relationship with God or anyone, faith is a virtue of that relationship.
Am I making sense?

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God Changed his mind?

by Matt_fs in

so i was at my really good friends place, he is a jw, im not.

i was trying to ask him if jw's are prophets of god.

he came back and asked me what im trying to get at etc etc.

Kristofer

God didn't change his mind. He told the Ninevites that if they didn't repent he would destroy them... Well, they repented, so he didn't.. That's not changing your mind, that's keeping your promise.

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Rock Star:SuperNovah

by OUTLAW in

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friends

have you seen it?..does this show rock or what?..tonights show was awesome!..j.w.dcom..some input please!

..lol!

!...outlaw

Kristofer

I'll be honest. I can appreciate the fact that you like this show...
I watched last season.
However, I personally have come to think that this show is ridiculous. They've turned rock icons into pop icons. They are there critiquing people about how to be better when rock has always been rebellious, raw and natural. If you have to put on an act up there, I don't think you should be playing rock music. I think Jim Morrison, Jimi Hendrix, Kurt Cobain would be turning over in their graves.

I can see the entertainment value, dont get me wrong...I just get disgusted at the commericalism.

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National Healthcare for the USA

by sammielee24 in

jw
friends

just an fyi for anyone interested - there is a major drive on to push the bill forward for national healthcare in the usa.

you can sign the petition by going to http://www.onecarenow.org/.. it has gone through one part of the process last year and now the push is on to get it moved to the next level - it is backed by over 400 groups including the uaw i believe.

it is no longer if it happens, it is only a matter of time as to when it happens.

Kristofer

I don't know why anyone thinks it's the government's obligation to provide healthcare. I sure as hell don't want the goverment running my health insurance. All I do is have to look at Social Services, the DMV and any other goverment run occupation to see how incompetent the government is at doing their job. I think there is only one efficient government group and that's the IRS...go figure. I don't want the incompetent, work only as much as I have to, goverment employees in charge of my health.

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JW speechless!

by turbonium in

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=revelation%201:8-18;&version=31;

i showed my jw friend those verses.

it works with jw altered bible also.

Kristofer

thank you Ringo5, excellent research!

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Boycotting Israel

by Crumpet in

i see that quite a few are following the dreadful attacks in lebanon.

today i went swimming to cool off with mr c and we were discussing what ways we could make our disapproval and anger at israels actions felt, besides being human shields.

(mr c reckons i'm big enough to stop one missile, but would be pretty useless after that.

Kristofer

why don't you find a way to boycott Hezbollah?