There is a common misnomer among the JBUB faithful that Heb. 10:24, 25 is a command, however upon further study it is an exhoration rather than a command. One cannot go above the two commands of Jesus, that is, love God and your neighbor.
beavis
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Hebrews 10:24,25 ???
by Little Bo Peep inif meeting together is to be taken to mean, five meetings a week that we must never miss, what about the command at rom 16:16, that says to greet one another with a kiss, or mt 6:9, you must pray this way???
jw's don't greet one another with a kiss, nor do they pray the lords prayer.. peep.
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Can a regular JW sue an Elder?
by beavis inhas anyone heard of this "new light"?
supposedly it is acceptable to "take your brother to court" which would incur the possiblity of loss of privilieges of position.
however, when one chooses to sue an elder, this would be a disfellowshipping offense because the elders are considered to be the society's representatives and an act of a lawsuit against an elder would be considered an act against the society because of the elders being considered their representatives.. .
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beavis
Supposedly a new decree has gone forth and plainly stated that a regular dub cannot sue an elder, however, it is acceptable for the society to sue other individuals for supposed copyright infringements. Also, marriage mates that are now seperated or divorced can sue one another with no threat of df-ing.
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Can a regular JW sue an Elder?
by beavis inhas anyone heard of this "new light"?
supposedly it is acceptable to "take your brother to court" which would incur the possiblity of loss of privilieges of position.
however, when one chooses to sue an elder, this would be a disfellowshipping offense because the elders are considered to be the society's representatives and an act of a lawsuit against an elder would be considered an act against the society because of the elders being considered their representatives.. .
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beavis
Has anyone heard of this "new light"? Supposedly it is acceptable to "take your brother to court" which would incur the possiblity of loss of privilieges of position. However, when one chooses to sue an elder, this would be a disfellowshipping offense BECAUSE the elders are considered to be the society's representatives and an act of a lawsuit against an elder would be considered an act against the society because of the elders being considered their representatives.
Has anyone heard of this decree?
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Bethel Departures: The writing on the wall
by What-A-Coincidence ina bethel talk in 98. over 17,000 members are in active service at bethel worldwide.
"thank you for the contribution you have made.
there is yet more work to do.
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beavis
Some here are ex-bethelites, pioneers, ect., ect., and wonder if their precious and valuable time could have been better spent elsewhere. What is R6LASER's story, how many years of the good ol' "full time service" do you have? All of the persons that have been uncerimoniously dismissed from their safe haven of bethel are leaving and scratching their heads and wondering what in the heck they are going to do. Many of these persons are in their 40's with high school diplomas and are now being thrust out into the workforce. I, like so many of my "vow of poverty" co-workers, had no college education and spent years working for what we all thought was for the LORD and a good cause. However, when spending years at this beloved place, one begins to see things from a different perspective, especially for all those who have been laid off. These are the same persons who would have told you a couple of years ago, to trust God and he will work it out....NOW WHAT? Now these persons are beginning to see the society from a diffferent perspective like so many of us now have.
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Elder Qualifications
by atypical ini was talking with my wife last night about the structure of the organization, and had a random thought.
i'm not picking on elders, because i know some elders i really like.
this is aimed at the hypocrisy of the performance-based atmosphere at the kingdom hall.. here are some things you do not have to really possess to become an elder:.
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beavis
Now folks, remember that in one of the recent Watchtower study articles, these fine strapping older men are being trained not only now but for future positions in the paradise..."Elders now taking the lead in the congregation are being trained for present and post-Armageddon theocratic duties." (WT, May 15, 2006 pg. 24) and then applying Rev. 16:14, 16.
Anyone care to comment on that ray of light/truth?
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A short summary of the punishments for Adam and Eve
by truthseeker inwhether you believe the genesis account or not, the punishments meted out on adam and eve were enormous.
yes, they both knew that they would die in the day of their eating from the tree, but why was it necessary for eve, and every other woman born afterwards, to have a painful pregnancy?
why did there have to be thorns and thistles?
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beavis
This word "craving" was discussed in the late 1990's. His explanation was a sexual craving for the husband as well as a craving for wanting to be dominated by her husband.
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Pink slips at Bethel
by beavis indoes anyone still have any friends at bethel?
it seems that there is a massive layoff at bethel in all three american complexes.
the layoff is supposed to affect everyone between the ages of 35-50 or maybe 60. i feel sorry for persons who chose to stay there, they gave up going to college, possible job offers or making a decent amount of money, having children, the list can go on and on.
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beavis
The official letter is coming, I personally know of three couples in their forty's who have been asked to leave. They do not have an exit date yet, but are supposed to be making plans to leave.
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Pink slips at Bethel
by beavis indoes anyone still have any friends at bethel?
it seems that there is a massive layoff at bethel in all three american complexes.
the layoff is supposed to affect everyone between the ages of 35-50 or maybe 60. i feel sorry for persons who chose to stay there, they gave up going to college, possible job offers or making a decent amount of money, having children, the list can go on and on.
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beavis
In the U.S., a pink slip is a notice from a job that you are going to be layed off or your position is going to be terminated.
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Pink slips at Bethel
by beavis indoes anyone still have any friends at bethel?
it seems that there is a massive layoff at bethel in all three american complexes.
the layoff is supposed to affect everyone between the ages of 35-50 or maybe 60. i feel sorry for persons who chose to stay there, they gave up going to college, possible job offers or making a decent amount of money, having children, the list can go on and on.
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beavis
Does anyone still have any friends at Bethel? It seems that there is a massive layoff at Bethel in all three American complexes. The layoff is supposed to affect everyone between the ages of 35-50 or maybe 60. I feel sorry for persons who chose to stay there, they gave up going to college, possible job offers or making a decent amount of money, having children, the list can go on and on. Now they are being told that since they gave up their best working years for working under the vow of poverty, now they need to "go back in the field". There are persons that have been at that place for 25 years being asked to start packing and I can only imagine that those persons are feeling a little bit disillusioned because of this situation. I was there, working for free so that the Society could sell 360 Furman for 220 million dollars, it was tough to leave and go into the cruel, cold "satanic system of things".
Not sure if anyone heard this either, but supposedly those that are staying at Bethel, have "worldly education", whether it be a degree, lawyers, doctors, nurses, you know the drill. But this goes contrary to the recent "educational"studies put out in the Watchtower. I thought wordly education was refuse and not needed. The right way, the wrong way, and then the Bethel way is what we were always told. So many contradictions, I think I need to vomit now.
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New Video of DF announcement at door
by inbyathread instarting a new thread so that everyone can find the link.. this is the video of the elders trying to act smart stupid.
http://www.savefile.com/files2.php?fid=5509435.
they will keep the file as long as it is downloaded once every 14 days.. enjoy
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beavis
I viewed your hilarious documentary on your DFing. Seeing those smiling faces makes me nauseous. Anyway, i was wondering what the two questions were that you were going to ask them, could you tell me?
Thanks