for those of you not "keeping up with the organization"botchtower deals soley with all the bullshit instances of "increased light" on this joke of a religion god's organization.
it asks many drone-like thought-provoking questions as i've listed below.
incredible that these guys claim to be the sole ownership of what is absolute "truth", yet change doctrines like i change lipsticks.
At the TMS the other night the PO who handled the bible highlights dwelled on the role of the Nethinim mentioned in Ezra. He went on and on about how significant the brothers who picture the Nethinim in modern times will continue to have an increased role as the anointed die off.
So maybe the "increased light" does have something to do with a change in the leadership and the F&DS...which is a pack of BS anyway!
in an effort to speed up downloads of some of our larger files, we've set up many of these files with bittorrents.
for those who don't know what bittorrents are, you can find out more about them on wikipedia.. because of the set-up, we've had to relocate some of the files to different areas in our servers, so some of the 'read online' options that we used to have won't be working the next few days, we'll get it back to the way it was soon though, but also give a couple extra download options.. the latest release is the video, "young people ask, what will i do with my life?
" for those who are interested the bittorrent file is located here:.
This is FANTASTIC!!!
this week on jan.11 i turned the big 55, you know, senior citizen stuff.
i'm not real happy about the age but life if good.
i been out of the jws now for 5 years with no contact from witness relatives.
Congratulations! I know the feeling. I have started to celebrate various holidays and birthdays with my old and very dear friends and relatives too even though I'm still a JW. What I have noticed as everyone has mentioned is the unconditional love which is so heartwarming. It's not the individual r&f that are to blame but the contrived doctrines of the WTBS that are ridiculous, especially when it comes to maintaining our precious family relationships. Unfortunately so many of us were dumb enough to fall for it. It is so embarassing, but clearly it's God's will that they are becoming exposed. The F&DS are false prophets!
Luke 17:23 - And people will say to YOU, ‘See there!’ or, ‘See here!’ Do not go out or chase after [them]. (NWT)
TheWTBS says "See here, Christ's presence in 1914." This is f alse reasoning based on a false calculation!
For those of us still in - soon and very soon...
are you watching world events unfold before your eyes?
iraq is receiving a liberation from ancient backward politics and a ruthless criminaly minded dictatorship.
boy geoge has stuck his foot in the middle east, to the amazement of virtually the entire planet.
Since we've been studying the Daniel book I have been considering the idea that that Iran could be the un-identified King of the North. I was even moresure of it in light of Iran's president's recent comments. Of course the WTS thinks that they are God's chosen and therefore "the land of Decoration" mentioned in Daniel 8:9. In the bible the kings of the north and south have always been north and south of Jerusalem (Jews, God's people, whatever). All I know is that the land of Decoration is not the FDS, GB, or whatever they want to call themselves.
According to the Daniel book, Chapter 10, page 173: " And "the Decoration" mentioned in the vision symbolizes, not Jerusalem, but the earthly condition of the people whom God views as holy during the time of the seventh world power."
Does anyone else have any ideas/opinions about the king of the north. We will be studing this in the next 2 book studies.
using the wts's dates in the january 1.1965 page 29 : nabonidus= 17 years.
add 17 to 539=556, neriglissar==4 years, add 4 to 556=560, evil-marduk=2 years, add 2 to560=562, nebuchadnezzar=43 years, add 43 to 562 =605.
the bible at 2 kings 25: 8 and 9 says "in the 19th year of king nebuchadnezzar the servant of the king came to jerusallem and burned the house of jehovah.
Scholar,
I'm curious as to why you haven't/didn't reply to post 3089 from Honesty on page 3? Is it because you rely on your own research and NOT on the WTS or do you have an explanation for the inconsistencies?
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this week, my congregation has the privilege of the visit from the circuit overseer.. my mother took a day off work to go out.
i put in for extra hours.. in the off chance we get wrapped up in discussion, what should i say?.
Have they 'officially' announced that Bethel is downsizng?
Even though I'm a witness I am ever more convinced that they DO NOT have the truth. The love of Jesus is so much more compelling which is exactly what Jehovah wanted to achieve when he sent his Son.
For those of us who are still in and haven't had the courage to leave yet we must realize that we are not committing a sin. One day we will find true freedom but in the meantime there are subtle ways to help others realize that this is not the truth. Have a gathering and discuss the Daniel book for starters. There are tons of ridiculous statements made in that book!
e.g. The 2300 days prophecy explanantion on pages 178 & 179. How could that prophecy possible relate to articles in the June 15th 1938 and Oct 15th 1944 Watchtowers??!! The book literally says that this prophecy began and ended with these 2 articles! The absolute nerve! I really and truly wonder how God feels on this matter. I personally consider it blasphemous.
Being in is one thing, but being in and absolutley still believing this hogwash is truly an entirely different matter. True light will get brighter and brighter and it is so apparent in the recent magazines and books that are being published - because they reflect no light, the recent cases and trials and websites like this one. The WTBS is becoming openly EXPOSED!
My solution for the believers of the WTBS: Pray about it, with all of your heart and soul!
i have a radio interview on my site featuring tom mcgovern, a 30 year in the org.
if you'd like to listen here's the link:
http://www.towertotruth.net/audio.htm#radio
Ex SDA??? Why did you change? I've been watching 3ABN and I really like it. JW's seem to be a copycat of SDA. I'd be interested to know what disillusioned you about the SDA's.
hello friends, i would like to hear some stories of becoming anointed.
i have been for 5 years now.. been a christian for 26 years.
i dropped out of the watchtower in september and am learning in leaps and bounds since i left with my new eyes.
This is the one post I really wanted to reply to because this is the foremost reason why I knew JW's was not God's chosen religion. I remember as a child wondering why some people 'claimed' they got the holy ghost, or could speak in tongues, or could heal, or were of the anointed. It was because they were faking it or they really believed it. Either way apparently God must reveal his spirit to people in many different ways. Of course depending on who gets it or what the blessing is, it's either from Satan, Jesus or Jehovah, depending on the religion you belong to. Gimme a break. Read the bible one more time and view it from the perspective that it has been made available to EVERYONE! Truly He is a marvelous, loving and wonderful God. As for those of you who feel that it only applies to you...pray really sincerely about it and then spread the love the way Jesus would have wanted you to really do it.
i have been trying to become a member of this site for weeks!
i started "lurking" soon after andersoninfo's big news.
i couldn't believe my timing!
Hello!!!
I have been trying to become a member of this site for weeks! I started "lurking" soon after AndersonInfo's Big News. I couldn't believe my timing! I really felt like it was the Lord's blessing. But then I had a problem registering and began to wonder if the Lord didn't want me to comment. I put it down to a technical glitch. I ended up using my husband's ID to register...hmmmm. BTW both of us our witnesses. I came in first and have been for approx 10 years and he has been in for about 3. I'm the scholar (not a lawyer though), while he is truly a christian who has no interest in studying but revels in God's love. (God bless him.) He knows that I'm up to something but loves me enough to let me do my own research. I must admit I am slyly making him aware of the many, many discrepancies.
I have so much to say. I feel that I know so many of you personally and in the upcoming days and weeks I plan and hope to make many comments and references to several posts. AuldSoul I really appreciate your comments/warning to a newbie the other day about how not to be too sensitive about various members posts. That really encouraged me to register at any cost, even if it meant identifying the island that I'm from, which of course I haven't. It's kinda scary because I don't want it to be discovered...yet...that I want OUT! I have always been a spiritual person and really thought that I had found the truth. It is so heatbreaking when you finally realize that it's not and if you leave you become labeled as a person that doesn't love God and people actually stop speaking to you. (What is up with that!!!) Apostasy is one thing, but a lover of real truth that leads to Jesus is simply put, not one of Jehovah's Witnesses. (1 John 4:8 & esp. 20!)
I want to go on and on and on, but after reading so many posts, I know for some the shorter the better. I LOVE this site. It's healthy and I know with all of my being that more and more folks are going to discover it. The internet has become a natural resource for people. I laughed when someone pointed out that if a bro or sis saying made a comment in reference to something they read from the internet, the type of reaction they would get. I know in mind I would have automatically said he's read some or all sites like 'quotes.watchtower.ca'; www.freeminds.org'; and of course this wonderful site, not to mention so many others. I particulalrly like the posts that refer to the meetings ahead of time.I feel so well informed! I have explored in depth the new 'reexaminer' site and it is fantastic with great promise.
A last point/contribution that I would like to make is that last night in the local needs talk it was so apparent that the elders have been encouraged to reach out and be loving and kind to both active and inactive witnesses. The GB et. al. ('and company' for those who don't speak latin) feel threatened. Gone are the days were they can browbeat the flock and make them feel like crap. If they don't stop people will LEAVE beacause inactivity is a great substitute for being d'fd.
I wanna say more! but I won't bore you. THANKS Simon (?) for letting me be a part of this forum. I am anonymous right?
Respectfully and lovingly,
A seekerfortruth2
